Recommend some PS3 games pls kthxbai

[Shota Shernokavich]

Then use the money you saved from not buying a 360 to upgrade your graphics card.

 

[Admiral Rimjob POOBUM]

Well, yes, I intend to, but I'm at the point where I really need a full system overhaul (but keep putting it off because there's nothing worth fucking upgrading for), and Mass Effect etc definitely ask for considerably higher than "average" computer specs. Looking at the recommended specs, that's going to cost you a lot more than $400, and a lot more than a 360.
I still vastly prefer PC gaming as well, don't get me wrong, but a smattering of decent exclusives and the price issue have certainly made me idly consider going the Gruelbox route once or twice.

 

[Futile Rhetoric]

I have a Geforce 6800GS - an average, if not slightly above average card

You're off by five years there, bub.

 

[Wyrmlord]

You probably haven't played any FF game for over an hour, so can you even judge? Some are good, some are bad, just like every other game series.

Actually, one hour is more than sufficient time to judge a game.

If you can't enjoy the first 30 minutes of a game, why bother going beyond that? You have paid money to enjoy a game, and if it doesn't provide you with that enjoyment, then it has not served its purpose, and you have no reason to be idealistic and force yourself to move through it. Whether it gets better much later on is irrelevent.

One's time is precious, and with work, study,.etc, one can't afford to waste more than an hour of one's free time doing something one doesn't like.

 

[Kraszu]

Well, yes, I intend to, but I'm at the point where I really need a full system overhaul (but keep putting it off because there's nothing worth fucking upgrading for), and Mass Effect etc definitely ask for considerably higher than "average" computer specs. Looking at the recommended specs, that's going to cost you a lot more than $400, and a lot more than a 360.

Actually shitty recommended would cost less, but I would rather buy something better.

I still vastly prefer PC gaming as well, don't get me wrong, but a smattering of decent exclusives and the price issue have certainly made me idly consider going the Gruelbox route once or twice.

I think it is cheaper only if you would not play online on xbox360. Add to that 10$ per game more.

 

[SanguinePenguin]

Uncharted Drake's Fortune is suppose to be pretty good. It's a Tomb Raider/Shooter combo made by Naughty Dog. And the Ratchet and Clank is suppose to be decent too. I am picking one up for the 80 Gig bundle with MGS 4.

I would agree that the 360 is not worth having if you have a PC. Too many of it's games are "poached" from devs and fiddled with spoiling the pot for everyone. I'm sure some of you are familiar with Oblivion, for example.

The 360's plus seems to be that it's easy as a motherfucker to pirate games with out of all the consoles. So if you can wrestle one from a hobo then you're set.

Jimbob stop being a fag and upgrade your PC.

Also download porn instead of playing Mass Effect. The highschool romances there are better.

 

[User was nabbed fit]

I have a Geforce 6800GS - an average, if not slightly above average card

You're off by five years there, bub.

Haha, yeah. Anything three generations behind is not "average" by today's standards in today's games.

 

[Edward_R_Murrow]

Did I say that the PS3 didn't have generic crap? All I said was that it didn't try to be a pc knock off and kept true to the console experience

See...this doesn't make sense. How is the 360 not "staying true to the console experience" even more? Consoles were an easy way to have a machine for the sole purpose of popping the game in, and playing it. A completely dedicated gaming machine. Aside from play some videos, this is what the 360 does. If anything, the Ps3 is trying to be a cheap PC knock-off with all of it's frills features like internet browsing, and the linux operating system. I mean, those do sound kinda cool, except for the blue ray which seems like more of an excuse for developers to focus even more on graphics and neglect gameplay, but these kind of defeat your argument.

And no, you don't need a 'super computer' (lol@poor people and their ignorance) to play 360 ports. Assuming the graphics settings are all on default, an average computer could easily play games like Gears of War.

Of course not. However, if you're satisfied with 360 ports for your "shootin' and fightin' with shiny graphics", why kick in the extra money? No offense, but I kind see paying for PC gaming kinda pointless as there isn't much I want to play as it's all the same bullshit as on consoles, but I can feel like me e-peen is bigger for playing it on a pc. I'm fine with Source engine capability. The only thing that will make me upgrade is if AoD or Scars of War need more powah...which they won't. Hell, I might not even need to wait to get a today's decent card for the Witcher as they're porting it. If it isn't totally butchered, I might pick that up.

Know why the 360 has fucking holes all over it? It's because they forgot to put the cooling fan until the very end of the design process, and kept over heating because it was poorly designed. Also, how many 360's were defective in 2005-2006? I think 33% right?

Ok...some of the 360s were a little off, but somehow I think that's more the users fault. Nowadays, gaming is becoming a little more mainstream

"kojima's penis trip game" is probably going to be 10x better than every xbox exclusive ever made

Fanboy alert! Look, Metal Gear Solid has really gone down the shitter. The first one, at least to my recollection, was a pretty decent action game that did a good job of making you feel like you were "playing" an action movie. The problem is, Kojima thought he was hot shit afterwards and that he was some brilliant mastermind and filled the second one up with so much bullshit it isn't funny. And the third one was just plain stupid. Colonel Ivan Pikachu and The Beekeeper were just too much. Worst thing is, none of the games really match Hitman, Thief, or even Splinter Cell on stealth gameplay. Maybe the fourth one will be alright, but all I've heard about was how much they've been working on sound and graphics...which never bodes well for gameplay.

And you sound really immature reciting those "FF sucks!" lines.

Why? Because you like them? While I've seen plenty of people on GameFAGs shout that type of stuff out blindly, I sure as hell am not. Plus, this is the RPGCodex, ya know?

You probably haven't played any FF game for over an hour, so can you even judge?

I played the first one for a few hours, the tenth one for a few hours, and seven all the way through (and not fully of my own volition). I still want my time back.

Some are good, some are bad, just like every other game series.

Not exactly. They all tend to follow the exact same formula of kill monsters, kill boss, get story. Lather, rinse, repeat. It's almost like the Diablo B. F. Skinner's box method of making the player work just for a little reward instead of a experience where the game is inherently fun on it's own. Compare Final Fantasy to say...Baldur's Gate. See, in Baldur's Gate the combat is (arguably) sort of involved and fun. You kind of need to think a little, plan things out, and stuff like that. Compared to Final Fantasy where an X-fest can ensue. The thing that irks me about Final Fantasy is that you could write a few macros to play the majority, if not all of the game. Simple things like grinding, or using items completely break the game. And the "story" isn't much of a crutch either. Final Fantasy is always the same "world is on the brink of destruction, chosen ones must save it". Lame.

Upgrading your computer to play new games costs less than 400$.

Sure about that? Even on newegg or eBay I find it hard to get something like that. Maybe you're quoting the price in Euros or a currency that hasn't been fucked up the ass by it's government's economic policy?

Hmm yea instead of pressing "x" I'll dance around like a fucking idiot. My little sister can have the wii, I actually want to play some real games.

You know there is the option of using a "classic controller" or even a Gamecube one, but feel free to spout of the same straw man tripe I hear from GameFAGs fanboys. Plus...making an ass of yourself with friends can be fun.

 

[Admiral Rimjob POOBUM]

Jimbob stop being a fag and upgrade your PC.

When I find five upcoming games that would justify doing so, jobless teenager budget here

You're off by five years there, bub.

The 6800GS is the second or third best card in the 6 range, and it's better than half the 7s. It's not a good card, admittedly, but I wouldn't call it below average for another year or so yet.

 

[kingcomrade]

I would recommend MGS4 which is coming out on june 12.

You're recommending a game that hasn't come out yet and thus you certainly haven't played? I suppose it would be less egregious if you weren't promoting a game from one of the most overhyped franchises in gaming.

 

[SanguinePenguin]

Did I say that the PS3 didn't have generic crap? All I said was that it didn't try to be a pc knock off and kept true to the console experience

See...this doesn't make sense. How is the 360 not "staying true to the console experience" even more? Consoles were an easy way to have a machine for the sole purpose of popping the game in, and playing it. A completely dedicated gaming machine. Aside from play some videos, this is what the 360 does. If anything, the Ps3 is trying to be a cheap PC knock-off with all of it's frills features like internet browsing, and the linux operating system. I mean, those do sound kinda cool, except for the blue ray which seems like more of an excuse for developers to focus even more on graphics and neglect gameplay, but these kind of defeat your argument.

The whole 360 "more dedicated to games" smacks of Microsoft's Shane Kim's bullshit. These consoles were all touted as being media centers. There was a format war after all. With regards to convenience and not being like PCs...the horses left the barn a long time ago when console games started being patched over Live. I would say there's more of a danger with the other format since that gives devs the excuse to nickel and dime for content they "couldn't fit on the disk." There's also a nasty rumour that Microsoft is going to push forward disk-less games in the future so you will no longer "own" the games anymore.

Of course not. However, if you're satisfied with 360 ports for your "shootin' and fightin' with shiny graphics", why kick in the extra money? No offense, but I kind see paying for PC gaming kinda pointless as there isn't much I want to play as it's all the same bullshit as on consoles, but I can feel like me e-peen is bigger for playing it on a pc. I'm fine with Source engine capability. The only thing that will make me upgrade is if AoD or Scars of War need more powah...which they won't. Hell, I might not even need to wait to get a today's decent card for the Witcher as they're porting it. If it isn't totally butchered, I might pick that up.

Well there are other shiny graphic games on the PC that aren't ports. But for me it's the issue that's they're there if I want them. And while mods shouldn't be used to excuse a game for it's individual elements I think it's a valid plus if you are talking about the platform and whether they are allowed. The PS3 can actually use them in UT III. Microsoft won't allow them.

Ok...some of the 360s were a little off, but somehow I think that's more the users fault. Nowadays, gaming is becoming a little more mainstream

Users fault? A 'little off?' If you are worried about "fanboyism" you might not want to use their stock lines from "GameFAGs" :D

Fanboy alert! Look, Metal Gear Solid has really gone down the shitter. The first one, at least to my recollection, was a pretty decent action game that did a good job of making you feel like you were "playing" an action movie. The problem is, Kojima thought he was hot shit afterwards and that he was some brilliant mastermind and filled the second one up with so much bullshit it isn't funny. And the third one was just plain stupid. Colonel Ivan Pikachu and The Beekeeper were just too much. Worst thing is, none of the games really match Hitman, Thief, or even Splinter Cell on stealth gameplay. Maybe the fourth one will be alright, but all I've heard about was how much they've been working on sound and graphics...which never bodes well for gameplay.

Some fans consider MGS 3 like some people here consider Fallout 2. If you think Kojima is arrogant never read an Itagaki (Dead or Alive/Ninja Gaiden/Boob guy) interview

I disagree with you about MGS. It has a very solid design with how the elements fit together. The switching between fast lock on and fp aiming/peeking at the right times, hold ups, the myriad distractions, traps, the progression of item acquisition, the more profound way the enemies change when alerted and the strategies they take when they try to take you down, multiple difficulty levels, better secrets, and good ol' fashioned boss fights.

An example is The End boss fight in 3. You have make use of all your old school 60's technology and stalk him along several maps. If you demonstrate your mad skills and are able to hold him up a few times you get his camo. He can even be assasinated early at the end of the river or you can just wait him out until the old bugger kicks it.

Hitman is too contextual and self contained. You never quite know what you are capable of until you are running through the level and by then it's probably too late and you have to try again. Thief has a different focus and was already fucked in it's xbox styled latest release. And Splinter Cell lacks real progression and meat. The enemies aren't challenging and they suffer the Tom Clancy effect where they try too hard to make the bad guys weak and crappy. It's the Sword of Truth syndrome. "Richard Raul is always right."

@Kingcomrade:
As far as the game mechanics go the Online beta has been out for a while.

 

[Damned Registrations]

I played the first one for a few hours, the tenth one for a few hours, and seven all the way through (and not fully of my own volition). I still want my time back.

I played daggerfall for one hour and halfway through oblivion so I know that entire series sucks too. Also, I watched the second half of the third robocop movie so I can tell the first one totally sucks balls.

 

[Draikin]

Uncharted aka Gears of Dude Raider of Persia is the only good PS3 exclusive. They copy pasted everything from other games but at least the execution is good.

All multiplatform games perform better on X360 and there wont be any third party exclusive in the near future (X360 & PS3 userbases are too big and too close: Sony/Microsoft cant buy exclusives by reducing royalties and publishers cant forget half of the market).

So you're left with first party strategy preference: Sony throwing gigantic budget on shitty developers or Microsoft contracting good independant developers.

 

[Xi]

On a side note, "My life as a King" via Wiiware, for 1500 points is pretty fun. Came out about 2 weeks ago, and for a game of such low cost it certainly has some depth to it. Wish my Wii could play GTA4, but there's plenty of things it does that the others just can't. ;P

 

[Deleted member 7219]

I would recommend MGS4 which is coming out on june 12.

Is that you?

 

[Data4]

Wish my Wii could play GTA4, but there's plenty of things it does that the others just can't. ;P

Eh, controlling a bike with Sixaxis is squirrelly as hell. I'd hate to see a Wii Nunchuck translation of it.

-D4

 

[obediah]

Gaming PCs are expensive.

I am really sick of hearing this. Sure you can spend thousands, but practically nobody does this nor is it neccesary. All it takes to turn a regular computer into a high performance gaming computer is ~$200-300AUD for a good video card. If you don't already have a computer you are maybe looking at $600-800 sans monitor. For reference a 360 pro is $580 and a PS3 40gb is $650.

Hold on there buddy. If our hypothetical person is comparing consoles and PCs, they must play a lot of multi-platform crap fests. Those are all optimized for the consoles and passed on to the PC as bloatware. Your $800 PC is going to barf on them. And by skating in at that price point, you aren't going to be playing much of anything AAA in a few years, while the poor console bastards will be running Halo 7 no problem.

Gaming PCs are expensive, it's the truth. Also, if you have any taste, you're buying a lot fewer games than in years past. When I was spending $700+ a year on computer games, a $300 graphic card was a good investment. At $200 a year, it doesn't make any sense at all. Especially when half of that is indie crap that doesn't need 40X HYPE-FLOPPING render maps.

So I just play abandonware I missed and whatever will run on my not-too-shabby laptop.

 

[Sir_Brennus]

Okay, I haven't read all of the thread and I won't answer the OT, because it seems the discussion has derailed yet again, so...

Please explain to me, why anyone that owns an older PC (like me: XP3200, GT7900GT, 2Gigs) and a PS2 should buy a next-gen console?

Games to play? A million for the PC that come as cheap as it gets if they're not AAA titles or brand new. The number of games I can't play is still below 10. The back catalogue for the PS2 is about 2300+ games + a myriad of PS1 titles. A lot of quality titles. More than anyone could play in a lifetime, especially with having a job and a wife and maybe kids and stuff.

GFX? Racedriver Grid runs on mid quality and I can't see any difference to Motorstorm - so why bother. God of War 2 still looks amazing on the HD, and so does FFXII.

Large Penis factor? A hip hop dude type of a student that I teach today told me he's going to buy a PS3 on credit. Do I have to compete with that kind of people?

I've thought about it quite some time, but in the end I only can think of the BluRay capability which is worth shit, because I own an awesome upscaling DVD-player for my HD.

So, tell me - why should I bother?

 

[someone else]

So, tell me - why should I bother?

+0.00000001% PS4 *spawn rate*.

 

[Hamster]

Gaming PCs are expensive, it's the truth. Also, if you have any taste, you're buying a lot fewer games than in years past. When I was spending $700+ a year on computer games, a $300 graphic card was a good investment. At $200 a year, it doesn't make any sense at all. Especially when half of that is indie crap that doesn't need 40X HYPE-FLOPPING render maps.

This is exactly what i thought about when buying PS3. Not only good graphic heavy games became increasingly rare lately, your PC's ability to run new games deteriorates while you are waiting for next good game. This is a great advantage of a console - you can leave it on a shelf for a year and it wil still work as good as it did at the beginning, without that "You're off by five years there, bub." crap. And all your hardcore rpg's and strategies are still with you on your old PC.

 

[obediah]

Okay, I haven't read all of the thread and I won't answer the OT, because it seems the discussion has derailed yet again, so...

Please explain to me, why anyone that owns an older PC (like me: XP3200, GT7900GT, 2Gigs) and a PS2 should buy a next-gen console?

I own a 360. I bought it shortly after release, mainly because I had a big fat lcd tv, and wanted to see what fancy video games looked like on it. I knew it was a stupid purchase at the time, and it still is. I use it to play Carcassonne and watch tv shows from a usb key. I hate all the gears of halo games, but sometimes a friend will bring one over and we'll get drunk and play on co-op, which is sorta-kinda fun.

I don't think the 360, PS3, or a gaming PC are compelling at this point. My laptop, PS2, and DS give me access to a ton of games that are cheaper and more interesting. I hope the PS3 will some day starting getting zany imports similar to the PS2, but I worry it will never reach the install base to justify the translations.

 

[Edward_R_Murrow]

The whole 360 "more dedicated to games" smacks of Microsoft's Shane Kim's bullshit.

While I understand where you are coming from, and don't really disagree, when it comes down to comparison, the 360 has less ancillary non-gaming features than both the Wii and PS3.

These consoles were all touted as being media centers.

See...the thing is, with the 360, they didn't force an HD-DVD thingamabob upon consumers, it was an optional add-on that users could spring for. The Ps3 employs the oh-so wonderful tactic of price tying a blue ray player in with the gaming system. Now maybe I'm a bit of a Luddite here, but I honestly see no benefit to the stupid Blue-Ray shit. All it will do is make more of a focus on graphics and uncompressed sound, both of which cater to very different subsets of gamers than myself.

With regards to convenience and not being like PCs...the horses left the barn a long time ago when console games started being patched over Live.

I agree, but that wasn't exactly where I was going with that line. I was more or less trying to say that the "console experience" wasn't unique only to the PS3.

I would say there's more of a danger with the other format since that gives devs the excuse to nickel and dime for content they "couldn't fit on the disk."

I suppose, but it's a bullshit one at that, and it doesn't seem like they need that excuse anyhow. Shooter developers can add in new maps for cash without having people bat an eye. Bethesda threw on their useless downloads to Oblivion and aside from the horse armor, people gobbled it up.

There's also a nasty rumour that Microsoft is going to push forward disk-less games in the future so you will no longer "own" the games anymore.

And there's the DRM nonsense on pretty much every PC, Sony wanted to make PS3 games playable only on one console and said the same "you are buying the right to play the game, not buying the game itself" you hear from a bunch of PC developers as well. Fact is, gaming companies are all assholes when it comes to this, whether it be Microsoft, Sony, Epic, Bethesda, or others. Pretty much only indies treat the consumer well.

Well there are other shiny graphic games on the PC that aren't ports. But for me it's the issue that's they're there if I want them.

I suppose. I guess I'm just jaded to the fact that mainstream PC gaming is essentially the same shit as consoles because it's developed with a potential console port in mind. There used to be games that actually made being a PC snob a good thing and easy to back up...not so much anymore.

The PS3 can actually use them in UT III. Microsoft won't allow them.

How's this work exactly? Does Sony clear some mods and then distribute them over their online service? Because that would be pretty cool

Users fault? A 'little off?' If you are worried about "fanboyism" you might not want to use their stock lines from "GameFAGs" :D

Er....yeah....didn't exactly finish that one....my bad. To be honest though, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the

Some fans consider MGS 3 like some people here consider Fallout 2.

I suppose that's true. It's just when over half the series is in serious question, you begin to wonder

If you think Kojima is arrogant never read an Itagaki (Dead or Alive/Ninja Gaiden/Boob guy) interview

Right on that count. That guy's an asshole supreme. He even has a couple of sexual harassment claims on his ass. Although I wouldn't so much say Kojima's arrogant, he just seems to think internally that his series is something it isn't. I'd say more...misguided. He's good, he just thinks he's good at something else.

The switching between fast lock on and fp aiming/peeking at the right times hold ups, the myriad distractions, traps, the progression of item acquisition, the more profound way the enemies change when alerted and the strategies they take when they try to take you down

I suppose this might be more a personal grievance, as the subtitle is "Tactical Stealth Action" after all, but I don't like the way you are forced out of being stealthy and then forced into action, or vice versa at certain times. So original huh, complaining about lack of choice on the Codex?

better secrets

I'm not sure if this is something you can really hold against other, more "serious" stealth games. Would something like insane button-mashing to get an alternate ending really fit in something like Hitman, Thief, or Splinter Cell? Or would Fission Mailed and "I need scissors! 61!"?

and good ol' fashioned boss fights.

While I tend to actually like these, sometimes they go awry and follow the 3d Zelda style "If I figure out the bosses' gimmick, he's done for and has absolutely no challenge". Psycho Mantis anyone? Really cool the first time...kind of silly afterwards.

Hitman is too contextual and self contained. You never quite know what you are capable of until you are running through the level and by then it's probably too late and you have to try again.

I suppose this could be held against the first one and some of Silent Assassin's levels, but Blood Money really improved upon this, especially with the idea that you could pay for "intel" before a mission to get some hints on target behavior. And while it might be kind of petty,

Thief has a different focus and was already fucked in it's xbox styled latest release.

Really? I thought that Deadly Shadows did some interesting enough changes in Thief's style of stealth. Sure, the levels were smaller, and the loss of rope arrows sucked, but swapping the sword for a dagger helped make Garrett even less of a fighter and helped make Thief 3 expand on the "player-chosen; game favored" stealth where it was in the player's best interest to be stealthy because Garrett would likely be outmatched if he wasn't, not because the game "forced" you to be stealthy.

And Splinter Cell lacks real progression and meat. The enemies aren't challenging and they suffer the Tom Clancy effect where they try too hard to make the bad guys weak and crappy.

Can't really disagree here, though I like the stealth mechanics in Splinter Cell a lot, the encounter design does tend to bite, though Double Agent was pleasantly surprising in that it did a decent job on this, even though it did reward Rambo's a bit at some points.

I played daggerfall for one hour and halfway through oblivion so I know that entire series sucks too. Also, I watched the second half of the third robocop movie so I can tell the first one totally sucks balls.

Ok, first off, The Elder Scrolls probably isn't the best example to use around these parts. Especially seeing as only Daggerfall has any serious support, Arena is an archaic thing, the jury is still in deliberation about Morrowind, and we just love Oblivion....

Anywho, I'd say it's more analogous with watching the first season of The A-Team, watching the third season of The A-Team, and watching some of the fifth season of The A-Team and then based off of that pretty much figuring out that every installment in the series tends to be the same formula with some small tweaks here and there and that you can safely skip the rest of the whole thing.

See, from what I've played, they stuck with the same shit all the way. Party-based, linear, repetitive, grind-fests. When I played the first one, it was a shitty AD&D rip-off, right down to the classes, monsters, and the horribly implemented style of spell casting native to AD&D that doesn't exactly work too well against hundreds of random battles with the inability to restore them in dungeons. And after it took my party of a Fighter, a Black Belt, a Thief, and a Red Mage a few hours to get not very far, I realized every class that wasn't a fighter was pretty much dead weight, with the exception of maybe a token red mage, and promptly quit seeing as I've pretty much seen the whole game after 5 hours of shit. When I played number 7, I found the series only got worse. Now I couldn't pick my party and had dipshits forced on me, battles were still random, the series still had almost no tactics at all and made Fallout or Baldur's Gate look like the most deep and complex tactical games ever, and I had to sit through tons of bullshit like cutscenes and minigames. Yay! And then the tenth one had a fuck-ton of cutscenes, a shit-ton of idiotic dialogue, the same idiotic combat system, and even more fucking minigames. I don't know which bullshit there was more off in the 5 hours I played, minigames relating to Aqua-Football, fighting fish, or fucking cutscenes. Tell me why I should really give this series a chance? In 20 years it has gone absolutely nowhere.

 

[Hamster]

Please explain to me, why anyone that owns an older PC (like me: XP3200, GT7900GT, 2Gigs) and a PS2 should buy a next-gen console?

Well, when you only have 6800GT it becomes a bit hard to play new games, especialy if you want some simple action game to relax. I just want to play something new and shiny from time to time and then return to older stuff, and next gen console is perfect for this.

 

[Castanova]

Has anyone successfully listed PS3 exclusives which are any good besides MGS and FF? If not, then shut up about the PS3 which is a complete POS at this point.

 

[obediah]

Has anyone successfully listed PS3 exclusives which are any good besides MGS and FF? If not, then shut up about the PS3 which is a complete POS at this point.

What are you some kinda halo faggot? Or did I sleep through all the great 360 exclusives?