KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[laclongquan]

The big fat slab of a sword in Japanese has a model, its name is Horse Slaying Blade I think. But it's made of wood instead of metal because otherwise it would be freaking expensive AND heavy. When the horse run toward you you can just slap the rider out of saddle OR beat the horse to death by that wooden slab. Because you can not cut shit with that for sure.

The Jap obsession with big slab of metal probabbly have something with how they lack so much metal. So a sword made from such big amount of weapon must be good, right? But that's how I guess.

 

[Thonius]

Codex in dire need of weeb rating.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

The big fat slab of a sword in Japanese has a model, its name is Horse Slaying Blade I think. But it's made of wood instead of metal because otherwise it would be freaking expensive AND heavy. When the horse run toward you you can just slap the rider out of saddle OR beat the horse to death by that wooden slab. Because you can not cut shit with that for sure.

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You’re talking about a zanbato, based on the Chinese zhanmadao. But they are made of metal, they just have a very long hilt, so long that some of them can be more like polearms than swords. There are apocryphal stories about infantrymen using these to kill the horse and rider in one blow, but in reality they were meant to kill the horse by cutting off a leg or two. Considering the kinds of horse nomads the Chinese were usually up against, the horses were more of a strategic threat than their riders.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhanmadao

But swords like Amiri’s were clearly designed by men of little girth.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Amiri's sword belonged to a giant yo.

 

[norolim]

Pathfinder: Kingmaker Beta #4 - Oleg's Trading Post

We find Oleg's Trading Post with the Stag Lord's thugs already there giving Oleg and his sweet dove Svetlana a hard time... so we smack them around like the brutal heroes we are. Preparations for the inevitable retaliation (cue "A-Team" theme). First round of leveling up.

Oh man. I got a mention in the video! I must have done something right.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Honestly I find that barbarian holding that huge sword far more ridiculous than the shield.

It's a weeb thing, for some reason Japs are enamoured with the concept of giant slabs of metal acting as bona fide swords

That has more to do with real life guys like Miyamoto Musashi. That dude was a certified badass. Killed his first samurai in a duel at 13, and in the last duel he had at age 30, he beat the guy to death with an oar. And that was because his opponent was known for using a longsword so he needed something with reach.

A nodachi is ridiculously long, but it’s also fairly thin for its length. Nothing like the big fat metal slabs you see in Berserk or Final Fantasy. Not sure how the Japanese used their super long swords, but the Chinese had something similar that was a dedicated anti-cavalry weapon designed to cut a horse’s legs off.

Nodachi:

Spoiler

Pretty sure the anime preference for huge, thick swords is less about the duel at Ganryu Island and more something Freudian. That or the giant slabs of metal are their approximation of a big ass western sword.

The Nodachi didn't inspire Cloud's sword in FF7, Miyamoto Musashi's use of an oar did.

 

[Elex]

in a world with magic huge sword are not retarded.
at least the magical one with limited weight and always sharp: longer weapon have better reach and if the sword is broad can also protect like a shield with the magical metal of awesomeness TM.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Sephiroth's Masamune is a Nodachi. The Buster Sword is something else.

The problem with longer weapons is that even if you eliminate the weight the size still makes it unwieldly in most situations.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

The problem with longer weapons is that even if you eliminate the weight the size still makes it unwieldly in most situations.

Men, swords aren't that heavy. Plus if spears were the most common variety of weapons used, longer swords worked well enough against them.

 

[Hobo Elf]

If you try to use a Nodachi vs a Spearman you are going to die.

 

[Jimmious]

There is only one big sword that is really cool:

Spoiler

 

[ERYFKRAD]

That's not a sword. That's just a hunk of metal. Also greatswords say hi.

 

[Jimmious]

That's not a sword. That's just a hunk of metal. Also greatswords say hi.

Dunno if you've watched/read Berserk (if not, you should) but the lore behind it is that it's so heavy and big that it's mainly used as a blunt weapon rather than a slashing one

 

[CptMace]

I thought it wasn't even used at all. That some random king asked the blacksmith to forge him a sword able to slain a dragon, hence the name, and was then completely unusable because he actually honored the request, making it massively heavy.
Then there's good ol' guts who wielded longswords at age 7 who's like "why yeah i can feel it's a bit heavier" and casually wields it like np

 

[Jimmious]

Did you guys watch the new 3d one? I started it but it felt "wrong"

 

[Fedora Master]

I stopped reading Berserk after they found Schierke. Where the demons at they teased at the very beginning and the eclipse??

Also the art direction for this seems a little off. You got very realistic looking portraits but very cartoony character models.

 

[Haplo]

Well, to be fair, at least Guts doesn't "fence" or swing it like it weighted nothing. He mostly slams and rams with it, using gravity and force to his advantage.

The 3D series wasn't very good. But at least its more Berserk...

 

[InspectorRumpole]

Man, some of you guys have really been studying the blade!

 

[ERYFKRAD]

That's not a sword. That's just a hunk of metal. Also greatswords say hi.

Dunno if you've watched/read Berserk (if not, you should) but the lore behind it is that it's so heavy and big that it's mainly used as a blunt weapon rather than a slashing one

Been watching the series, it qualifies as non-weeb. Dude can cut a thing or two with it though.
Might get the comics later.
Honestly, he looks like he can lift it. Now compare that to a fag like Cloud.

 

[CptMace]

Did you guys watch the new 3d one? I started it but it felt "wrong"

There's one thing I love in the weak ass 3d anime, it's the sound that the dragonslayer makes everytime guts waves it around.
Tings go CLUUUUUNK

A lot of people hate that, and I understand why. This is nothing like I would have imagined the sword, or any, to sound like, yet I fucking love it everytime I hear this insane, out-of-this-world heavy rusty metal sound.

Listen to that shit

 

[aweigh]

if you like any anime then you are weeb. Deal with it.

As for CGI Berserk... eh, it's alright. Like was said above: at least it's more Berserk. Obviously it is nothing compared to the original anime series in terms of quality.

The original's OST also blows it away and is sorely missed.

 

[Jimmious]

I watched the original quite young and it kinda blew me away because my experience with anime till then was limited and didn't expect it to go SO dark

 

[sstacks]

There is only one big sword that is really cool:

Spoiler

That butter knife? P'shaw

 

[aweigh]

Was Cloud's Sword added to ToEE by Co8 or did it come by default? I honestly can't remember.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Was Cloud's Sword added to ToEE by Co8 or did it come by default? I honestly can't remember.

'twas in the files, I reckon. Co8 just unveiled it.