Paradox FAIL

[Hobbit Lord of Mordor]

3 weeks later no patch to make the game playable.

The tech system is screwed.

The map is screwed.

wanted to play Greece and half HoI2's island provinces have disappeared. They are crucial for strategy. Corfu is attached to the mainland. Half the provinces are completely empty of any resources. All necessary tech is at 1918 levels. Even Yugoslavia has about 10-15 starting levels in Naval Engineering, but Greece has zero.

Then checked Italy 1941 scenario, some of their starting tech is at 1918 level.

 

[Emotional Vampire]

Still better than me, ten clicks on the world map and the game crashes.

Tech you start with doesn't change at fucking all no matter the year, I noticed.

 

[kris]

Half the provinces are completely empty of any resources.

that is working as designed and historical as far as the simulation goes. The start up tech is screwed, like I believe I mentioned in some other thread. Patch will most likely be out next week as said.

 

[sqeecoo]

Give it a year. Playing paradox games as soon as they come out, what a silly idea. We admire them for their innovation and courage in making truly niche games, not the buglessness of their products.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

Don't buy PC games the day they're released. It's best to wait for 3-6 months, or maybe till it's in the bargain bin.

 

[AlaCarcuss]

.... or just in the bin - then it's free. And we all know you can't critisize free games

 

[thesheeep]

Give it a year. Playing paradox games as soon as they come out, what a silly idea. We admire them for their innovation and courage in making truly niche games, not the buglessness of their products.

 

[Emotional Vampire]

Don't buy PC games the day they're released. It's best to wait for 3-6 months, or maybe till it's in the bargain bin.

That's so stupid I literally lost my fucking sight

 

[Serious_Business]

-'What's up man'
-'Yeah I was thinking, PC games'
-'What about them'
-'Better to wait a couple of month before buying them, right?'
-'Why's that'
-'Well, to wait for patches and so on'
-'Sounds a bit incovenient, but you're probably right'
*guy comes in*
-'THATS SO STUPID GUYS JESUS YOU ARE MORONS'

:

 

[someone else]

Don't buy PC games the day they're released. It's best to wait for 3-6 years, or maybe till it's abandoned.

 

[Destroid]

Console games are not much better than PC in this regard since they got the internet, it's just tiny studios like Paradox that don't do QA that have such horrible problems.

 

[MetalCraze]

Yeah and somehow console games are immune to bugs?

 

[Emotional Vampire]

Yes, because they're on DVDs and you can't save bad code on a DVD

 

[thesheeep]

Yes, because they're on DVDs and you can't save bad code on a DVD

Awesome!

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

Pretty much a catch-22. If you buy most PC games straight away, especially the games that are more indepth, they are full of bugs. If you get used to this and buy them when they have been patched, then the company doesn't get the returns it wants and stops making those games thinking nobody wants them.

The worst part however is that patches seem to be drying up over time, even with companies that used to be known for excellent after market service. Paradox has been moving towards the buy-a-patch system with their addons, which is why I have refused to buy their games new since they started this with HOI2.

I did buy EU3 when it first came out, saw that they were not going to do anything with it until you paid for an addon and sold it on ebay. Last year, I got hold of EU3 complete, in the box with a manual, 10euro.

 

[GeneralSamov]

Did the tutorial work for you? (For the record, I played EU II before, and I'm not a newb in regards to it, just wanted to skim through the new stuff, like f.e. influencing cardinals)
I read on the internet you need the 3.2 BETA patch (lol) for the tutorial to work, or otherwise download the EU III demo (which is what I did). Is this a common issue, or is it maybe linked to versions of the game that ship with wooden legs, grog and cutlasses (YARR!)?

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

Did the tutorial work for you? (For the record, I played EU II before, and I'm not a newb in regards to it, just wanted to skim through the new stuff, like f.e. influencing cardinals)
I read on the internet you need the 3.2 BETA patch (lol) for the tutorial to work, or otherwise download the EU III demo (which is what I did). Is this a common issue, or is it maybe linked to versions of the game that ship with wooden legs, grog and cutlasses (YARR!)?

I never bothered with the tutorial to be honest. Being a Victoria veteran, I would have to have my head checked if I needed a tute for EU3. Best not to bother with it and learn as you play with the manual for reference.

 

[deranged]

Don't buy PC games the day they're released. It's best to wait for 3-6 months, or maybe till it's in the bargain bin.

That's so stupid I literally lost my fucking sight

I'll have to agree on this.

I mean what is this? Adapt to the new - era of buggy-but-soon-to-fix-products ?

Bash them ...

 

[Mefi]

I never bothered with the tutorial to be honest. Being a Victoria veteran, I would have to have my head checked if I needed a tute for EU3.

 

[Annonchinil]

I am itching for a good civ game and can't decide between EUIII and Crusader Kings. I know what makes Crusader Kings unique but don't know what makes EUIII stand out.

 

[MaskedMartyr]

I buy the game when it comes out and then I play the game I bought 3 months ago.

Rinse and repeat.

Now if its some high-budget shit I don't really give a fuck, those have way better price drops than a studio like Paradox.

 

[GarfunkeL]

Did the tutorial work for you? (For the record, I played EU II before, and I'm not a newb in regards to it, just wanted to skim through the new stuff, like f.e. influencing cardinals)
I read on the internet you need the 3.2 BETA patch (lol) for the tutorial to work, or otherwise download the EU III demo (which is what I did). Is this a common issue, or is it maybe linked to versions of the game that ship with wooden legs, grog and cutlasses (YARR!)?

I never bothered with the tutorial to be honest. Being a Victoria veteran, I would have to have my head checked if I needed a tute for EU3. Best not to bother with it and learn as you play with the manual for reference.

Fuck, if you can figure Vicky out without manual, there is no game that can beat you. But rue, it IS an awful Catch-22 situation. Which other studio produces anything similar to what Paradox does? Battlefront? Yeah, maybe but in a micro scale. And P'dox hasn't devolved into Bioware territory yet.

 

[Emotional Vampire]

Fuck, if you can figure Vicky out without manual, there is no game that can beat you.

http://www.byond.com/games/hub/Exadv1/SpaceStation13

 

[Mefi]

Fuck, if you can figure Vicky out without manual, there is no game that can beat you. But rue, it IS an awful Catch-22 situation. Which other studio produces anything similar to what Paradox does? Battlefront? Yeah, maybe but in a micro scale. And P'dox hasn't devolved into Bioware territory yet.

Isn't this the same as it ever was with Paradox though? Major bugs on release, followed by mass hysteria on their forums, followed by a few patches which resolve most of the bugs and which perform 'squeaky wheel gets the oil' alterations to gameplay.

Personally, I load up a couple of games, bug report, and then put them away until patches are released. By patch 3, things are playable. Solves the problem of supporting the developer and also losing patience with the fuckwitted bugs which infest Paradox games. I guess I make allowances for a developer which has a staff of only 9 people working on their flagship title.

 

[GarfunkeL]

To an extent, yes but seems that HoI3 had even more than usual. Especially the memory-leak thingy is quite incomprehensible in its ability to evade beta testers attention.

Oh what am I writing? I'll be buying HoI3 the instant I get back home.