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Ossian/Atari BEGS people to torrent instead of buying

bat_boro

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Well, MoW uses the same DRM system that is found in The Chronicles of Riddic: Escape From Dark Athena, and that game is out quite some time - something like a month, maybe. And yes, it still haven't been cracked, so I guess that says something about ATARI's new DRM system. It would be interesting to see the actual sales number to see if this shit was any good, though... :roll:
 

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MoW sounds like a fun expansion, too bad it has an annoying copyprotection that limits the number of installs. It´s bad for Ossian studios but i can´t tolerate that copyprotection shit.

Except, of course, pissing off legitimate customers who would like to be able to install and uninstall their game more than 3 times. Not to mention the many instances in other games where Secure-Rom (sp?) and the like actually interferes with the installation / running of the game on some people's systems.

Yeah. That´s the reason there´s no chance I will buy the game. I have no problem with a copyprotection that not limit the number of installs I can make , a internet connection is necessary or fuck my system up like Starforce.
I like the copyprotection from M&B. You can install the game on 3 different systems EVERY 2 MONTHS with no limitation how often on each system.
 
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Morkar said:
Except, of course, pissing off legitimate customers who would like to be able to install and uninstall their game more than 3 times. Not to mention the many instances in other games where Secure-Rom (sp?) and the like actually interferes with the installation / running of the game on some people's systems.

Yeah. That´s the reason there´s no chance I will buy the game. I have no problem with a copyprotection that not limit the number of installs I can make , a internet connection is necessary or fuck my system up like Starforce.
I like the copyprotection from M&B. You can install the game on 3 different systems EVERY 2 MONTHS with no limitation how often on each system.

AFAIK you can install MoW an unlimited number of times on 3 different computers. See here: http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/static/EkupFyAllluMlkOKzz.php

- With 3 activations you can install MoW on 3 different PCs.
- If you reinstall MoW on the same PC with unchanged hardware (see below for details), you can do this an unlimited number of times. You can do this on 3 different PCs.
 

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Morkar said:
Except, of course, pissing off legitimate customers who would like to be able to install and uninstall their game more than 3 times. Not to mention the many instances in other games where Secure-Rom (sp?) and the like actually interferes with the installation / running of the game on some people's systems.

Yeah. That´s the reason there´s no chance I will buy the game. I have no problem with a copyprotection that not limit the number of installs I can make , a internet connection is necessary or fuck my system up like Starforce.
I like the copyprotection from M&B. You can install the game on 3 different systems EVERY 2 MONTHS with no limitation how often on each system.

AFAIK you can install MoW an unlimited number of times on 3 different computers. See here: http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/static/EkupFyAllluMlkOKzz.php

Not to bad, but it is still necessary to contact Atari after the 3 activations. I can´t tolerate this. What happens when Atari goes bankrupt?
The difference to M&B is that you can activate automatically every 2 month without contacting anyone. I still enjoy older games and collect them. Why should I buy and collect a game that maybe I can´t use in the future?
 

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bat_boro said:
Well, MoW uses the same DRM system that is found in The Chronicles of Riddic: Escape From Dark Athena, and that game is out quite some time - something like a month, maybe. And yes, it still haven't been cracked, so I guess that says something about ATARI's new DRM system. It would be interesting to see the actual sales number to see if this shit was any good, though... :roll:
Anything high-profile enough will be cracked in half a year. This would probably be enough for Atari, though.
 

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Probably. I suspect that the most skilled crackers are of the old-school, intelligent sort. They cracked games because they liked gaming, and they stop when they don't like it anymore. Is it a coincidence that the whole warez scene has declined in parallel to the games industry? Crackers can hardly be bothered nowadays. Almost no more groups, rips, intros, demos, chiptunes, and so on left. Quite an accomplishment for the industry.
 

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Exactly. Just like you don't/didn't see crackers delivering cracks for Vista when it launched or whenever microsoft updates their drm stuff, yet now in march when microsoft updated the wga stuff for XP, it was cracked in less than one day. And it's not about difficulty, because if you look at comments on TPB, you will see people asking the crackers why there' no updated version for vista and they all say it's just not worth doing that.

I believe the same applies to these games, it's not worth it.
 

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in the future the games will be so shitty and bland that no one will even bother to torrent it even.
 

abdwef

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Well, MoW uses the same DRM system that is found in The Chronicles of Riddic: Escape From Dark Athena, and that game is out quite some time - something like a month, maybe. And yes, it still haven't been cracked, so I guess that says something about ATARI's new DRM system.

The Xbox 360 version of Dark Athena was cracked and released 5 days before(!) the release date. :twisted:

But the PC version still hasn't been cracked nearly a month after release.
 

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abdwef said:
Well, MoW uses the same DRM system that is found in The Chronicles of Riddic: Escape From Dark Athena, and that game is out quite some time - something like a month, maybe. And yes, it still haven't been cracked, so I guess that says something about ATARI's new DRM system.

The Xbox 360 version of Dark Athena was cracked and released 5 days before(!) the release date. :twisted:

But the PC version still hasn't been cracked nearly a month after release.

Xbox360 version was propably more intersting since the original campaign had never been relesed before in the enhanced format. As for PC the only new thing in the dark athena is the extra campaign which is much inferior to the original one.
 

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ME was cracked on the 4th day by the nogroupie while cracker groups that were doing it for 10+ years have shown next to none interest in doing the same considering that ME is anything but some less known NWN2 "premium" mod. The Decline is that bad and it's here to stay, gentlemen.
 

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....and get 'This item was removed for your shopping cart due to: country of purchase restricted'.
...so, pick a different country? Internet censorship is just damage, reroute around. I'm not sure why people seem intent on supplying information they know is not advantageous to them.

Morkar said:
Not to bad, but it is still necessary to contact Atari after the 3 activations. I can´t tolerate this. What happens when Atari goes bankrupt?
The difference to M&B is that you can activate automatically every 2 month without contacting anyone. I still enjoy older games and collect them. Why should I buy and collect a game that maybe I can´t use in the future?
This doesn't change anything. If whoever made M&B goes bankrupt, or is assimilated by the Borg, you won't be able to activate, so the number of activations you HAVE becomes irrelevant.
 

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...aaaand it's apparently been cracked. Not out on the pirate bay yet, but it takes a little bit of time for warez releases to filter down to public torrents.

So much for 1.5 years spent on the DRM...
 

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Haha and nobody still bothers with Dark Athena while MoW may be (maybe) a good mod which I think is the reason. Yet another proof of the Decline.
 

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Spectacle said:
...aaaand it's apparently been cracked. Not out on the pirate bay yet, but it takes a little bit of time for warez releases to filter down to public torrents.

So much for 1.5 years spent on the DRM...

I hope you don't refer to the Razor1911 release, because this as fake as it can be.

Fact stands atm: MoW has not been cracked, yet.
 

Darth Roxor

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Heck, just installed it and the DRM isn't really that intrusive. At least it doesn't install any shit on your HDD, I believe. It only wants to connect to the internets to verify the legitimacy when you start up MoW and that's all.
 

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Darth Roxor said:
Heck, just installed it and the DRM isn't really that intrusive. At least it doesn't install any shit on your HDD, I believe. It only wants to connect to the internets to verify the legitimacy when you start up MoW and that's all.
And that is actually very, very dangerous. You'd be surprised how enormously much information can be gleaned from getting the user to run an application on their own computer that subsequently phones home. Even the most seemingly innocuous communication can be very revealing...especially when they have all the resources of a major corporation backing them, using those advanced techniques for smuggling data out. These are tricks which can bypass even deep packet analysis. Anything on your computer is potentially at risk by allowing nefarious operators to phone home.
 

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Norfleet said:
And that is actually very, very dangerous. You'd be surprised how enormously much information can be gleaned from getting the user to run an application on their own computer that subsequently phones home. Even the most seemingly innocuous communication can be very revealing...especially when they have all the resources of a major corporation backing them, using those advanced techniques for smuggling data out. These are tricks which can bypass even deep packet analysis. Anything on your computer is potentially at risk by allowing nefarious operators to phone home.

Well, I figured that there may be malicious jews now deleting my porn and having a detailed list of everything I have on and in my computor, but oh well, I suppose.
 

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