New Total War game: Warhammer

[Quatlo]

So glad that the total war team has decided to screw up a fantasy setting, rather than a real life piece of history. I look forward to the hilarious bugs, damning user reviews, and paid-for journo 10/10 advertisement articles.

Guys Do I Fit Yet: The Post

 

[Average Manatee]

So is it confirmed that we can actually fight battles in the base game or are we forced to auto resolve everything if we don't have the correct DLC?

 

[Agesilaus]

auto resolve now sold as $5.99 DLC. real time combat will be included in a patch post-release.

 

[DramaticPopcorn]

So is it confirmed that we can actually fight battles in the base game or are we forced to auto resolve everything if we don't have the correct DLC?

I think the faction is just not playable

 

[groke]

So glad that the total war team has decided to screw up a fantasy setting

screw up a fantasy setting

'Top wew,' as they say.

 

[Saark]

So far the Chaos Warriors Trailer has an astonishing 2.5k Likes and almost 30k dislikes. Even reviewers that for some reason managed to like the previous Total War installments like it was cocaine are outraged over this move. This is fucking hilarious.

 

[Jick Magger]

They over-calculated. There probably wouldn't be anywhere near as much of a stink if it was a more minor faction (Ogre Kingdoms, Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings, etc) instead, but Hordes of Chaos is probably the second most popular faction in WHFB right next to Orks (and even CA isn't stupid enough to try and make the latter DLC), the fact that they thought they could get away with making them a DLC faction is somewhat astounding.

 

[Saark]

To be fair, this smells more like a Sega move than anything CA would do. I may be wrong of course, but stuff like what part of content available becomes DLC and and the pricing etc. seems to be done by the publisher not the dev.

 

[Ulminati]

CA probably wanted Vampire counts as the DLC race and SEGA decided that "Chaos is more popular, so we'll sell more DLC this way!"
Genius.

 

[Raghar]

Don't worry pirated version would have all DLC.

 

[JarlFrank]

The DLC craze of CA has only grown more and more ridiculous with time. The early TW games had solid expansions that only got better with time - Mongol Invasion was fun, Viking Invasion was great, Barbarian Invasion was awesome, Alexander was solid and had good AI updates, Kingdoms added three new campaigns that were all pretty fun and had their own unique features. Then came Empire, and expansions were replaced with tiny little DLCs, Warband being the only real expansion-style one. Other than that, we got unit packs. Same with Napoleon, Shogun 2, Rome 2... the "expansions" became standalone, and countless DLCs added new factions and units. While there are lots of mods that add even more units than the DLCs you have to pay for, so... hurr durr

 

[BlackAdderBG]

They should had sticked with Activision.All of this is SEGA doing.Just look at other games they sucked teeth in Company of Heroes( http://store.steampowered.com/sale/Company_of_Heroes_2_Commanders ),Football Manager( http://store.steampowered.com/dlc/295270/ ) and Down of War (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/44369/ )

 

[Commissar Draco]

I never understood how anything worked in Napoleon. Cavalry would die in seconds, artillery was better left at spawn. If the enemy was dumb enough to move his artillery to a better position, you could snipe it then shoot his men with the remaining ammunition. Then the rest of the game was about moving your line just right at the tip of the red circles.

You put artylery between line infantry and let AI got machine gunned by canister fire and then when they started to run mow down them with Cavalry... It was only tactics which made retardo Warscape engine serviceable... Avoid 1:1 melee fights that is.

 

[Quatlo]

The DLC craze of CA has only grown more and more ridiculous with time. The early TW games had solid expansions that only got better with time - Mongol Invasion was fun, Viking Invasion was great, Barbarian Invasion was awesome, Alexander was solid and had good AI updates, Kingdoms added three new campaigns that were all pretty fun and had their own unique features. Then came Empire, and expansions were replaced with tiny little DLCs, Warband being the only real expansion-style one. Other than that, we got unit packs. Same with Napoleon, Shogun 2, Rome 2... the "expansions" became standalone, and countless DLCs added new factions and units. While there are lots of mods that add even more units than the DLCs you have to pay for, so... hurr durr

 

[Jick Magger]

To be fair, Fall of the Samurai was a damn solid expansion pack. Even stand-alone it's one of the better games in the series.

Can't say the same about Rise of the Samurai though. That was basically just a smaller scale variation of the vanilla game with a couple of useful fodder units for multiplayer.

 

[Saark]

Looks like they actually made a statement about the whole chaos-DLC thingy.

http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/164869-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Dev-Blog-–-Chaos-Warriors-Pre-orders-and-DLC

So is adding chaos as a pre-order incentive "cut content"? I think the opposite is true. If we didn't add it to the pre-order, it would have been DLC later on and not in the game at release.

Who the actual fuck makes a WHFB game and doesn't plan on making chaos a race that is either playable or an opponent? They cannot possibly tell me that noone on the design-table thought of making chaos one of those 4 races. Seems to me like they knew from the get go that chaos was gonna be a DLC-only playable faction. Are they really that retarded that they don't realize that people aren't criticizing their decision to make a pre-order DLC, but that the pre-order DLC was the most iconic race in the whole fucking franchise?

 

[Galdred]

RTW 3 will have Rome as a DLC.

 

[DramaticPopcorn]

Looks like they actually made a statement about the whole chaos-DLC thingy.

http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/164869-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Dev-Blog-–-Chaos-Warriors-Pre-orders-and-DLC

Oh man, expected them to close with "YOU'RE WELCOME" statement by the time I was done reading. Holy shit, that's some high quality spinning

 

[Saark]

You should check out the replies, everyone is slurping up that shit like it was ambrosia. And the one guy who actually tells them what the real issue is gets shut down quickly enough by some super retard.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

You should check out the replies,

No need ,anyone that is posting on CA forums is beyond retardation.That place is worse than Bethesda's.

 

[Aothan]

so, can we expect Chaos to be unusually effective a la so many other recent examples of Warhammer games (Mark of Chaos, Dawn of War 2)

 

[Jick Magger]

Oh this is such fucking naked bullshit it's not even funny.

 

[Disgruntled]

I respect the efforts to try and get CA/SEGA to back down on the Chaos dlc, but its expected greed at this point.
If WH is at least on the level of Attila, the new units and setting will make it worth my time and money. Not that im preordering any time soon of course.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Mazisky]

I hope to see some environment variety and not only rock\lava settings