Shannow
Waster of Time
Am I the only one who dislikes Darth-mod?
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Napoleon: Total zzzzzz...
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Torrent it. It's fun, an improvement over Empire feature-wise, but with a much smaller map, fewer factions and since it's stand-alone it doesn't affect Empire in any way.Blackadder said:
Also it still has steam, so I didn't bother buying it, just torrented.
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herostratus said:
Haha, I remember reading an interview shortly after Empire was announced, where they bragged that the AI would be so much better this time because they had one programmer dedicated full time writing it, unlike previous TW games.
Shannow
Waster of Time
Can't remember. Probably fucked up balancing and the AI always behaving the same way...Quilty said:
On a side note: I'm playing the TW
E2 total conversion "The Third Age" and it's pretty fucking awesome apart from fucked up balancing and stupid AI.[EDIT]: I just remembered. IIRC, Darth's mod for Empire fiddled with ranges and accuracy. Good idea in principle, but it had my two units of Prussian Line fighting one unit of some Russian militia. I was shoting from the front and the sides, being quite near to make up for the new accuracy balancing. After shooting off 50% of my ammo and only hitting 4 enemies while losing 10-14 of my soldiers I went into melee and lost another big portion of my men although my men had superior stats and attacked from two sides. Then I erased Darth-Mod. *shrug*
Shannow said:On a side note: I'm playing the TW
The fucked up balancing is totally intentional in that mod. It wants to "realistically" portray the different LotR races and cultures, and therefore doesn't give a fuck about balance, which leads to overpowered elves, dwaves with kickass infantry but no cavalry and only few ranged units which leads to LOTS of frustration when fighting skirmishing enemies, orcs with huge fucking troops that are weak and have no chance against elite units of the other races etc etc etc...
Playing as dwarves it was quite annoying to chase down enemy skirmishers with my slow infantry
Shannow
Waster of Time
I know, but this time I like it. I played as elves and it was too fucking easy then I re-started new as Mordor and Gondor was whipping my ass. But now that I've got trolls I'm whipping their asses. Nice turnaround. With the drawback that trolls are costly and take long to be recrutable. Still even with the intentional blancing differences some stuff sucks. EG, orc archer units suck at archery (and everything else) but they're also as small as elven archer units (who can outfight ork melee troops and shoot accurately over half the map).JarlFrank said:Shannow said:On a side note: I'm playing the TW
The fucked up balancing is totally intentional in that mod. It wants to "realistically" portray the different LotR races and cultures, and therefore doesn't give a fuck about balance, which leads to overpowered elves, dwaves with kickass infantry but no cavalry and only few ranged units which leads to LOTS of frustration when fighting skirmishing enemies, orcs with huge fucking troops that are weak and have no chance against elite units of the other races etc etc etc...
Korgan
Arbiter
Well, Tolkien stated that the Shadow's only weakness was a lack of cavalry (and plothax), so free spawning basic orcs would be nice. Sauron would just drown the enemy in them, not caring if he lost 90% and some "real" troops to boot, as long as enemy forces are pressed. Perhaps if the orc spawn points moved with Invasions (the crusade mechanic here), they would be possible to hold at bay but difficult to push back, so most of the Free Peoples' offensive warfare would be restricted to quick raids, as in the lore. Gotta suggest it on their forums.Shannow said:I know, but this time I like it. I played as elves and it was too fucking easy then I re-started new as Mordor and Gondor was whipping my ass. But now that I've got trolls I'm whipping their asses. Nice turnaround. With the drawback that trolls are costly and take long to be recrutable. Still even with the intentional blancing differences some stuff sucks. EG, orc archer units suck at archery (and everything else) but they're also as small as elven archer units (who can outfight ork melee troops and shoot accurately over half the map).JarlFrank said:Shannow said:On a side note: I'm playing the TW
The fucked up balancing is totally intentional in that mod. It wants to "realistically" portray the different LotR races and cultures, and therefore doesn't give a fuck about balance, which leads to overpowered elves, dwaves with kickass infantry but no cavalry and only few ranged units which leads to LOTS of frustration when fighting skirmishing enemies, orcs with huge fucking troops that are weak and have no chance against elite units of the other races etc etc etc...
Yeah, the fucked up balance is actually a good thing because it fits the mod. It's just not supposed to be balanced, and balance isn't really needed for a game to be fun.
Mentioning balance, I really need to try out this mod for Napoleon:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=349267
Overpowered artillery, completely useless cavalry, huge fucking armies of infantry, both infantry and cavalry are mostly cannon fodder... lovely.
Mentioning balance, I really need to try out this mod for Napoleon:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=349267
Overpowered artillery, completely useless cavalry, huge fucking armies of infantry, both infantry and cavalry are mostly cannon fodder... lovely.
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It's a seriously lame mod, Jarl. 
Total War: Cannon Fodder
Whoever has a single unit of arty more wins, if experience levels are equal. No reason to build any other unit ever. The only way to lose while having more arty is if a lucky shot kills your general and spoils morale.
It was a good idea for a mod, but to get the WWI feel right they'd have to have some way of making arty basically useless against entrenched soldiers, so that at some point they would be forced to advance. Also, in the mod, arty has unlimited ammo.
Tech progression, agents, etc., are shit in it too. Maybe with another year or two of work it would be worthwhile, but by then Shogun 2 will be out and we won't care about this shit game anymore.
Total War: Cannon FodderWhoever has a single unit of arty more wins, if experience levels are equal. No reason to build any other unit ever. The only way to lose while having more arty is if a lucky shot kills your general and spoils morale.
It was a good idea for a mod, but to get the WWI feel right they'd have to have some way of making arty basically useless against entrenched soldiers, so that at some point they would be forced to advance. Also, in the mod, arty has unlimited ammo.
Tech progression, agents, etc., are shit in it too. Maybe with another year or two of work it would be worthwhile, but by then Shogun 2 will be out and we won't care about this shit game anymore.
N:TW feels like a huge improvement over E:TW .. okay, that's not saying much, but I'm actually finding the battles rather fun, although the AI still seems to have that stupid habit of charging a general into my mass of troops. It's like any enemy cavalry unit has a suicidal/fanatical urge to get at my canons o_O.
ScottishMartialArts
Self-Ejected
eidahl said:
:shock: You mean cavalry is weak against artillery in N:TW? Sure, charging into the fields of a fire of a battery of cannons will result in tears, but cavalry is so mobile it doesn't have to. Plus, artillerymen don't have the luxury of forming square so if cavalry overruns their guns then they are fucked.
ScottishMartialArts said:
Oh, it works alright, unless those same cavalry charge down across half the field, in front of rows of my soldiers to get at the artillery men at the end of the formation. All of my units get a chance at them.
( Though, I just meant they sometimes used their general to -try- taking down my artillery.. something like that.. )
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