MTGO aka MODO

[Pope Amole II]

People still playing? Modern Masters was just released in the closed BETA which I'm a part of, so we get to draft it for free ATM

That's, like, extremely charitable for them to let beta testers draft MMA for free. Financially speaking, this thing is a fucking scam in MTGO, priced to suck the living souls out of users, so yeah.

Don't like your build, though - I'd go with 16 lands + paradise mantle (you have guys like sculptors or retrievers or arcbound workers - decent enough targets for it) and would've found place for frogmite + 2 enforcers (plumeveil, spellstutter & latchkey, I think).

 

[Grunker]

That's, like, extremely charitable for them to let beta testers draft MMA for free.

The closed BETA is so baller. But they also demand that you take active part in the process.

Don't like your build, though - I'd go with 16 lands + paradise mantle (you have guys like sculptors or retrievers or arcbound workers - decent enough targets for it) and would've found place for frogmite + 2 enforcers (plumeveil, spellstutter & latchkey, I think).

The mantle was a derp - it ended up in the main before I submitted. However, the lack of enforcers was due to me wanting to fuck around with some faeries and stacked value off of Esperzoa and gargoyles. When you can draft for free you can afford to go some crazy routes

Plus, I won all matches with exactly Esperzoa + Gargoyle value

 

[DakaSha]

I actually have a mtgo account with a shitload of tier 1 cards or whatever they are called. Haven't played in years tho. i should sell my collection

 

[Grunker]

I actually have a mtgo account with a shitload of tier 1 cards or whatever they are called. Haven't played in years tho. i should sell my collection

You should give them all to me.

 

[DakaSha]

I actually have a mtgo account with a shitload of tier 1 cards or whatever they are called. Haven't played in years tho. i should sell my collection

You should give them all to me.

Sounds like a horrible idea

 

[Grunker]

I actually have a mtgo account with a shitload of tier 1 cards or whatever they are called. Haven't played in years tho. i should sell my collection

You should give them all to me.

Sounds like a beautiful idea

I agree

 

[Pope Amole II]

The mantle was a derp - it ended up in the main before I submitted. However, the lack of enforcers was due to me wanting to fuck around with some faeries and stacked value off of Esperzoa and gargoyles. When you can draft for free you can afford to go some crazy routes

Plus, I won all matches with exactly Esperzoa + Gargoyle value

Well, mantle is meant to be played with the affinity spells, so it's obvious that without them it's not as good (besides, since it's there instead of the land, not an actual card, it's derpiness doesn't matter as much). And enforcers are really needed here because your deck focuses too much on card advantage and too little on tempo. And not enough finishers - I mean, getting an esperzoa constantly is awesome and stuff, but, considering you're running 1 copy of it, it was really lucky.

But mind you, mtgo is my source of income atm so I bear a very extreme "do or die" attitude when it comes to drafting & stuff, so for me it's all about power (& money).

 

[Grunker]

^

When you can draft for free you can afford to go some crazy routes

After you saying that to this deck I'm glad I didn't post my giant deck with eight copies of blindspot giant, lol.

 

[Pope Amole II]

Actually, no. RW giants is a valid archetype and said giant, while kinda iffy on his own, is quite great in numbers. It's quite a rare occurence, though - MMA is a large set and it's an extreme rarity to have even 4 copies of same card, no matter the power of it.

 

[Grunker]

Another day, another artifact deck:

Not to sure about this one, you can probably criticize it to hell and back Pope Amole II. Testing now whether it is the nut or not.

 

[Pope Amole II]

TBH, the proper way to criticize draft decks is uploading the logs to the raredraft.com - I mean, draft logs are available in beta client, right? Because more often than not in limited it's less about deckbuilding and more about drafting, and it's mostly there where your fate gets decided.

As for the deck... Well, I liked the previous one more - this one is somewhate random because it's three colors with small amounts of fixing and some things here (like enforcers and frogmites) may or may not work depending on the hands you'll draw. But, looking at your sideboard, there's not much you can change here.

 

[Grunker]

Do you draft MMA? And is there any sort of money in that? It seems overpriced.

 

[Pope Amole II]

No, as I've said, in modo it's nothing but a fucking scam - 30 tix for a single elimination event is just way, way too much (and the prizes to investment ratio also sucks). And cards themselves got damped to hell by the bot chains, so opening money is a total pipe dream.

Oh, there were also phantom queues, but they also featured absolutely improper prizepools (which were paid mostly in the untradeable cube tickets) so it was nothing but a huge waste of money. Perhaps a small percent of lucky bastards made their profit, but the majority of players lost heavily.

 

[Grunker]

Wow, lol. I got there in the first match. First game I win on 3 life, second game he wins on 4 life, last game I win on 1 life.

EDIT: Next game, game 3 og 3. I'm at 2, he's at 8. He has no hand and a 6/5 creature. I have 3 swamp, 3 plains, 3 island. In hand:

I draw a creature, block, he draws land. Repeat four times. I draw swamp, he loses.

I felt legitimately bad.

 

[Jaedar]

Phtisis is such a shit card. Never even seen it resolve

 

[Grunker]

Phtisis is such a shit card. Never even seen it resolve

Someone who never plays draft detected.

Phtisis was excellent in Time Spiral as a one-off, and it is decent in MMA. When it resolves it often outright kills your opponent and if not it maims him and takes his best creature.

 

[Jaedar]

Phtisis is such a shit card. Never even seen it resolve

Someone who never plays draft detected.

Phtisis was excellent in Time Spiral as a one-off, and it is decent in MMA. When it resolves it often outright kills your opponent and if not it maims him and takes his best creature.

I only play draft. People aren't shit enough that they go 7+ turns without killing you or finding a response. Lots of bounces and sacs in MM.

 

[Grunker]

Phtisis is such a shit card. Never even seen it resolve

Someone who never plays draft detected.

Phtisis was excellent in Time Spiral as a one-off, and it is decent in MMA. When it resolves it often outright kills your opponent and if not it maims him and takes his best creature.

I only play draft. People aren't shit enough that they go 7+ turns without killing you or finding a response. Lots of bounces and sacs in MM.

o_O

Three things about this format: Plenty of answers (games often go long), plenty of board (players have many creatures out). If your opponent willing doesn't play creatures for five turns or actually bounces his own dude, the card and two mana has been MORE than worth it.

Unless one of the players has an inferior deck, games often go that long in Modern Masters as the format has plenty of answers. And the upside for being hard to cast is awesome: you don't cast this card without winning the game unless you're so screwed almost no card could save you anyway.

Note that I'm not saying it's a great card, but as a one-off in a control deck that can cast it, it's a fine card. I've only had to hard-cast it that one time, and it has resolved in over half the games where I've had it in my hand at some point.

Brad Nelson and Marshall Sutcliffe agrees with me.

 

[Jaedar]

Obviously its not a useless cards, its just that most of the time there's a better black card you could play imo. I think you're sort of ignoring the fact that it's basically dead for a large part of the game. Yes you get to kill a creature at some point, but if its a large threat you need to kill it now, not in 5 turns, and if it isn't a large threat Phtisis doesn't have that much impact.

 

[Grunker]

Obviously its not a useless cards, its just that most of the time there's a better black card you could play imo. I think you're sort of ignoring the fact that it's basically dead for a large part of the game. Yes you get to kill a creature at some point, but if its a large threat you need to kill it now, not in 5 turns, and if it isn't a large threat Phtisis doesn't have that much impact.

I think you're misjudging the card, and I think I know why: You seem to be treating it like removal. It isn't. It's a bomb.

You play Phtisis because if you cast it, it completely hoses your opponent by taking, on average, around 9 or 10 life in one swing and killing the best creature he has in play at that time.

I don't pick it highly, but it does end up taking a spot once a while when I get it, and I'm almost never sorry to play it.

 

[Grunker]

Oh, and by the way, this format fucking rocks. It's such a shame that it's so expensive to play, I really feel bad for anyone who loves to draft that doesn't get to play this much :/

 

[Pope Amole II]

Actually, no one gets to play it much because in the actual client it was drafted for, like, 2 weeks and that's it, big money or no, you can't play it anymore. I guess they'll be returning it for a week once in a while (as they do with those old sets & MEDs), but it was never meant to be a hugely played format.

 

[Grunker]

Actually, no one gets to play it much because in the actual client it was drafted for, like, 2 weeks and that's it, big money or no, you can't play it anymore. I guess they'll be returning it for a week once in a while (as they do with those old sets & MEDs), but it was never meant to be a hugely played format.

That sucks though, 'cause it's a really shiny format. But then they don't bring back cube that often either.

 

[Jaedar]

Oh, and by the way, this format fucking rocks. It's such a shame that it's so expensive to play, I really feel bad for anyone who loves to draft that doesn't get to play this much :/

Yeah, its a shame its already come and gone over here in the real world. If MTGO wasn't a huge fucking ripoff I'd prob have kept playing it over dere.

 

[DakaSha]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck i have all these cards and have no idea what my collection is worth. I would just play if this shit wasnt completely pay2win (yeah what was i expecting back then).
Its mostly shit cards because i played exclusively pauper (due to it being cheaper) but i know i have a few worth something, and they should add up anyways.

What is the most reliable way to find out how much my shitty collection is worth? Besides giving them to grunker to try out