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So, let me get this straight. This band of Shaolin monks that got themselves lost in a red light district are suddenly going to have an acute awareness of exactly where Chi Qilin's hotel room is at, as well as our proximity to that room, and the combined information is inevitably going to prove to them that we are none other than Zhang's apprentice?

I'm not even sure why that would be a problem. I was operating under the assumption that we went with the merchant's son cover mostly so that we wouldn't draw too much riff-raff butthurt over the loss of their family at Zhang's claws down to slash our throat by publicly declaring it wherever we went as the other option would do. You guys aren't seriously considering keeping this veil up at the actual tournament, are you?
 

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We're again forgetting how harshly the orthodox types judge their counterparts. Sure, they may be some open-minded or downright naive types (a certain nun comes to mind; by the way, it really did turn out she was not the Shulgi we've been looking for), so for our affable persona to work we'll have to really go out and prove ourselves a decent unorthodox type. However, Quiling already has her reputation out in the world, people may not know her but they will know of her and someone out there is bound to recognize her style as Wudu Sect, since she came here to win and all, and start connecting the dots. Then they will definitely spot us at some point if we're trying to get closer to them, someone is bound to get curious and ask "So, where are you staying, bro? Mind if we crash at your place today, since we're all buds here?" or something to that effect.
QUOTE="Baltika9"]The closest analogy I can think of is back in EPIC, which was Aphrodite's Island. We were this close to pissing off Sekh and getting sidetracked from our original goal (we did screw it up later, but that was due to the choices we made in Crete)
Funny. I can come with an analogy of my own, and exactly from Crete. The moment we found Theseus and Ariadne sneaking out at night, but decided not to follow them 'because we had our own shit to take care of'. Then proceeding to feed Ariadne the love potion to get an artifact that Theseus already had on himself. Which eventually resulted in the Aegean War and the Rift and screwed the entire world.[/quote]Missed this. The difference between the two examples is that Theseus and Ariadne were directly related to our goal and investigation. Aphrodite was not, by any stretch of the imagination. Just like Quiling is.

Look, I have nothing against going with her specifically, it's just that blending the two is a horrible, terrible idea if we still want to get into our marks' good graces and still look out for our own interests. It's one or the other, bros, AA or BB for maximum effectiveness.
 

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Okay, so what you're saying is, you want to put her problems ahead of ours?
Right. Because they can never be solved along with ours, or after them, no, sir. Qilin will off us in our sleep if we don't do what she says that instant. They are very urgent and totally incompatible with our quest, because that is I what I want to think.

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We can make our declination very pretty with flowery words, but it'll still be a "no" and she's socially savvy enough to pick up on that, and she will be insulted by our backpedaling.
Qilin is friendly, bros, she won't ever sell you out, promise, you can ignore her. Oh, but if you refuse her, she becomes your mortal enemy forevah.

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Oh, right, we just happened to be right next to the heir of the Wudang Sect, in a room we rented when all the others were taken.
Esquilax said:
If people know that we are living under the same roof as Chi Qilin, they aren't gonna give us the benefit of the doubt. It's just not going to happen, they will just assume we're guilty, just like back at Songfeng.
Woe is us. The city is full of robbers, murderers and thieves. How can we stay in the same city and breath the same air as those wretched scum? It makes us guilty by association of every crime that transpired within these walls. We must flee this pit of corruption and reside in a forest, that is the only way to prove our purity to the ever-watchful eyes of orthodox sects.

The attempts to show that AB is Shulgi and Satan combined are getting ridiculous.
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I don't see what your goal in all of this is. I am here to maintain anonymity while exposing the weaknesses of our enemies. She complicates this.
I said I want Qilin as an ally. We don't have enough, and our mission is not exactly of a sort that will help us make any. That's the goal.
Who would have guessed that trying to do extra stuff is going to take extra effort?
 
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We're again forgetting how harshly the orthodox types judge their counterparts. Sure, they may be some open-minded or downright naive types (a certain nun comes to mind; by the way, it really did turn out she was not the Shulgi we've been looking for), so for our affable persona to work we'll have to really go out and prove ourselves a decent unorthodox type.

What are you intending to get out of this? I can see us doing the Shaolin guys a good turn and maybe they think that we're not that bad after all, but it's not as if they're going to reward us by teaching their techniques or anything. Even you admit that we'd at best be presenting ourselves as a 'decent unorthodox type', but since you think that we'll have a massive black mark against us from simply staying across the hall from an unorthodox practitioner with these guys, what then makes you think that these guys will do anything for us? Either they're massively anal-retentive about it or they're not, you can't have both ways.

However, Quiling already has her reputation out in the world, people may not know her but they will know of her and someone out there is bound to recognize her style as Wudu Sect, since she came here to win and all, and start connecting the dots.

By the time we get to recognizing people's styles, we will ourselves be fighting. Our style-- even without techniques-- is a bit too brutal to really pass off as an orthodox one. By that point in time, they'll see that we're an unorthodox fighter without this silliness about other people in the hotel being clear signs of what one is or isn't.

Then they will definitely spot us at some point if we're trying to get closer to them, someone is bound to get curious and ask "So, where are you staying, bro? Mind if we crash at your place today, since we're all buds here?" or something to that effect.

Just say no, bro.

We can get much further along in pursuing some sort of professional relationship with our favorite poisoner than we can with the Shaolin monks for reasons that should be blindingly obvious. If you have to pick one or the other for some silly reason, you may as well go with the one that will actually get us anywhere.
 

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Ah well, at least the look on Quiling's face when we'll be eating her pets like candy will be worth it.
"Snakes are good for your neiggong, dontcha know? Some snake specialist you are." :troll:
 

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Thinking about what treave said, I don't think you guys are really considering fully what will happen here by hiding your techniques. No one in their right mind will sic their best students on you if they deem you weak.
You're a nobody, you lost badly in the tournament, why even stoop to your level, no matter what you names you are calling them?

After all what would the jiang hu say if us, orthodox sect sic our best students on someone who is weaker. That would be bullying. So, they won't sully their sect name by being labelled a bully - hence, you get someone weaker to play with.

You say you are the Southern Maniac's apprentice but what proof do you have? You can only prove it by crushing their disciples with his techniques. And if you have to fight their low level disciples before earning a chance at the big shots, what is stopping them from analyzing your techniques during the challenge itself? Point is, if you play yourself off as weak, the strong will have no interest in fighting you. Once you start beating people of some face/ranking, then only do you have the right to actually challenge their best.

Also why do you, Esquilax think that by staying at the same inn with Qilin it will tarnish Jing's name? Are there no other paying guests there in that inn? If that's the case, then everyone else staying there is guilty by association to the Wudu Cult just by virtue of staying in that inn. You should focus on what Qilin might do rather than what the world might think.

Your cover is a merchant's son, and you don't know stuff like Chi Qilin and Wudu Cult. You are literally a nobody now. You didn't come as the Souther Maniac's disciple.
No one is going to care where you're staying---except Cao'er, and Yifang..coz well, you know... ahem.

I'm going with 2A coz I think slumming on the street is funnier because you get to see more stuff between the sect disciples without them noticing the hobo in the alley. No one is going to bother you, but unfortunately though, you still won't be a Beggar Friend by slumming it out for a week. Perish the thought...you want info, you gotta pay.

Sure makes you wish you opted for the Beggar Sect mission early on, doesn't it.

ETA : 'sides, Qilin probably has another newly concocted poison to test on you - as payment for letting you have that extra room...beware your food and drinks and bed mwahahhahaha But seriously, she's playful enough to do that, and not out of malice.
 
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Sucking up your pride, you head over to meet Qilin at the Tanxiang Inn. It is a reputable place, not too expensive and not too cheap; the sort of lodgings that do not attract much attention. The inn is packed with pugilists, drinking and revelling in the main hall. The two of you make your way up the stairs, where you find that your rooms are opposite each other.

You endure her smugness when passing over your money. At the price she charges, at the end of the tournament you would have barely anything left. “A pleasure doing business with you, Young Master Guan,” she smiles. She opens the door to your room. As you step forward, her arm shoots out, barring your way. “Hold on. I need to disable the traps,” she says with a serious face. You raise an eyebrow and step back, allowing her to do so. She checks the corners of the door frame carefully and removes several strings. Then, she heads further into the room and starts poking around the table and the bed. After a few minutes, she nods in satisfaction and beckons you in.

Slightly wary, you enter the room.

“Don’t be nervous,” laughs Qilin. “You’re a customer now. I don’t kill my customers. It’d be bad for my reputation.” She skips over to the door and closes it shut before slowly turning to face you. “Now that we’re alone, Xu Jing, tell me your true reason for being here.”

“I’m here to compete,” you say flatly. “Aren’t you worried about having your competition stay across from you?”

“Who said I was competing with you?” Her eyes twinkle. “You do have an inkling about where I’m from, right?” You nod. “Guizhou is the base of the Wudu Cult. Is your father the Scarlet Scorpion and sub-leader of the Cult, Chi Tianxie?” Qilin grins widely. “It looks like you’ve been doing some studying. Where did you find that out?”

You had heard Master Zhang mention the Scarlet Scorpion in passing once, and immediately made the connection. “Oh, I keep an ear out for people who might want to poison me in the street.” Qilin pouts. “It was just that one time! Anyway, if you know that much, you should know that winning an orthodox tournament is rather low on the list of priorities for a respected member of the cult like I am.”

“Ah, so it’s that, then?” you say.

“Of course it’s that. This is a good place for a practical test, with so many different experts running around. The competitors will be a good sample for my experiment on how different poisons interact with different types of inner strength.”

You clear your throat. “I hope it’s not of the… lethal variety?”

Qilin looks offended, her nostrils flaring in a snort. “Please, do you think I would do something like that for a test? It’s a waste of good poison. A smart girl like me can extrapolate the effects of a poison based on its mildest symptoms and the dosage I used. It won’t even affect their performance at all. I am an expert, you know.”

“You do know I could just go to the committee and tell them everything you just told me.”

“You can try,” smiles the girl sweetly. “Do you know the second motto of the Wudu Cult?”

“The first one was that profit determines your allies, right?”

“That is correct. The second is this: ‘Anyone who crosses us will die gruesomely’. The Wudu Cult has never failed to make good on that promise. We are masters of poison. I dare say that our training allows us to infiltrate anyplace in the world. Perhaps not overnight, but we can always get our eyes and ears and fingers where they are needed, given time. The only thing stopping us from poisoning, say, the Emperor, or the heads of all the Eight Sects, is because there is no profit in it for us. Everyone knows that.”

“Which means you would do it If there was a profit.”

“Perhaps, but I doubt it. My father says that the balance of things as they are right now benefits the cult perfectly, and there should be no need to break it. In that case I don’t think there is any price high enough to entice us to do such a thing.”

“But it would be rather easy to get me poisoned for ratting you out?”

“Oh, yes. But don’t worry about it, I’m only sharing the information so that you don’t start suspecting your landlady of dubious practices and try to interfere under some misguided assumptions. If you’re staying across from me, I am sure you will have the urge to peek,” grins Qilin impishly. “Anyway, if you don’t interfere with my purpose here, I won’t interfere with yours. You just want to compete, right? Let me know and I won’t do a little test on the person you’re up against… or perhaps I will, if you’re looking for that little edge.” She winks at you, though you just sigh.

“I hope you know what you’re doing,” you say, scratching your head. “It would be rather bad luck if you miscalculated your work…”

Qilin scowls at you. “Don’t jinx it. I’m being very careful with the dosage already.”

After an exchange of insults, the conversation veers into skills and the two of you end up spending a bit more time exchanging pointers – she can be charming enough as it is, but you have the advantage in noble etiquette, while you are a good sneak in deserted areas, but require more knowledge about how to blend into a crowd and make your way around the packed structures of a city.

***

The registration for the tournament begins the next day. Surprisingly, your sleep was uninterrupted by any snakes, spiders, scorpions, centipedes or toads. You leave early, without encountering Qilin. Making your way to the registration area, you see that it is already crowded with young pugilists and their caretakers. The age of contestants seems to range from about fourteen to twenty. With your dyed hair you could almost pass for your age; without it you would probably look just shy of twenty.

“Young Master Guan! What a pleasure to see you here!” shouts out a monk as he hurries over. He bows at you with his palms placed together and you return the gesture. The monk is Xuzhan; you had helped him and his friends exit the maze of brothels and gambling dens yesterday. “I didn’t know you were participating!”

“Perhaps. I am not sure if I will. My meagre skill at martial arts managed to win a crest, and convince my father to let me come, but looking at the level of competition here I am afraid I will not be able to get anywhere,” you say nervously. In truth, what you have seen so far does not impress you one bit. The monk smiles and nods. “Yes, it is a rather tough crowd this year. They are saying this will be the most tightly fought competition in ages. We have the disciple of the Sword Saint Shangguan Chuji, the Twin Flowers of Huashan and Taishan’s Seven Heroic Youths, amongst so many other notable contestants!”

You give him a bemused stare. “My friend, you seem rather knowledgeable and excited about this for a monk. I thought you were not to be concerned with secular affairs?”

Xuzhan blushes slightly, stammering. “W-well, I happen to be very interested in matters of the jianghu. Keep it a secret from my superiors, Young Master Guan. But how can one walk the path of a pugilist and not take an interest in who are the best fighters?”

“I suppose you know who are the best fighters, then?” you ask leadingly.

Xuzhan begins racking his head. “Well, there is some dispute as to which pugilists are the best. Ask ten different people and you will get ten different answers, but I think everyone here will have their own opinion on who is the best. It is common knowledge. But of course, you wouldn’t know, Young Master Guan. Sorry. I forget that you are rather new to all this.” He bows deeply in apology, hoping that he hasn’t caused you offense.

“That is alright. I would love to learn more about the front-runners, if you will be so gracious as to share with me what you know.”

Xuzhan proves to be rather talkative. Soon he drags in some of his Shaolin friends, who in turn drag in friends from other sects, and they begin debating who is the best and why. You stand aside quietly, listening to what they have to say.

By the end of it, you surmise that there are a few names to look out for at the competition, young pugilists who have made their names by performing great deeds despite their youth.

Taishan’s Seven Heroic Youths, said to be the best young fighters of the school. You do not remember their names, as they tend to be referred to as a group. Even the monks do not recall their names.

The Twin Flowers of Huashan; Nie Mudan and Nie Shuixian, who are adopted daughters of the sect leader Nie Wuxing.

Murong Yandi, the disciple of the man said to be the best swordsman in the world, Shangguan Chuji.

Su Liaojing of Kunlun, a youth that is said to have the potential to become the next head of the sect.

The Three Brothers of Wudang, Wu Jin, Wu Yin and Wu Tong, are seen as a major force in the competition.

Of Emei, they think the nun Yiling will prove to be an obstacle – she had a close run for champion the last year. When the conversation turns to Shaolin, Xuzhan says embarrassedly that he is considered one of the front-runners for his temple, along with his brothers-in-monkhood, Xuzheng and Xuzhu.

The Beggars have sent a few representatives, but there does not seem to be any fighters of renown amongst them.

There are a few other strange competitors, including someone in a tiger’s mask who put himself down as Nameless, but no one expects anything from these weirdos – they appear every year and disappear just as quickly.

From the hectic discussion, you also gather that they would treat all of the competitors just named as more or less equals in the pugilistic arts, though arguments can be made for each competitor for superiority in certain aspects. This year is also seen as a tight competition for another reason. For the past seven years, the tournament has been dominated by Bai Jiutian of Huashan – a peerless, elegant pugilist whose skill has brought him victory match after match. This year he is ineligible to participate due to his age, though he is still widely considered the best pugilist of your generation.

“Then,” Xuzhan begins with a hushed whisper, “they say that the Southern Maniac’s disciple is participating this year. No one knows who he is, or if he is even here, but everyone is nervous.”

“How do you know he’s participating?” you ask. Abbess Miecao hadn’t known of the invitation.

“It’s just some rumours circulating amongst us young people. I’m not sure where it started, but everyone believes it by now. They say he was sent a special invitation to come and showcase his prowess.”

“Do you believe it?”

“Maybe. I mean, people are already pointing at newcomers as possibly being the Young Maniac in disguise, since he hasn’t revealed himself. Of course, you can’t be him, right, Young Master Guan?” He chuckles nervously.

“Do I look like a maniac?” you laugh, expressing your mock offense.

“No, of course you aren’t. You don’t look the part at all, Young Master Guan,” says Xuzhan. “But there is one person who does.” His voice drops into an even lower whisper. The other monks and pugilists nod amongst themselves nervously, as if they know who he is talking about.

“We think he is it. That boy over there.” Xuzhan points towards a hulking figure sitting alone in the center of the registration hall. His fists are callused and his muscular build is intimidating. A girl in peasant dress is sitting by him. Every other competitor is giving him a wide berth, reminding you of the time you met Zhang Jue himself. Even from here, however, you can tell that the large boy is nothing like Master Zhang. He lacks that sharp, menacing aura that emanates from the man as easily as he breathes – the same aura that Master Zhang says you already possess, should you decide not to hide it. He is not a killer. Perhaps it takes one to recognize one – you doubt most of the youths in this hall have ever killed another person, let alone ten or a hundred.

“Who is he?” you ask quietly.

“Well, no one dares to get close enough to find out, just in case he turns out to be the real thing. I mean, it’s not much consolation for the sects to punish him if you’re already dead,” says Xuzhan, still nervous. “But I think he registered his name as Guo Fu. I’m not sure if that’s his real name, but it could be.”

“I’m sure he’s not that bad,” you say cheerily. As you get up and walk over, the young pugilists look at you in horror.

“Someone pull him back! Hey!”

“You do it!”

“Ah, this is why I hate newbies who don’t know a thing about the pugilistic world!”

Some familiar shouts come from behind you as you approach the boy. Up close, you can see he is perhaps a year or two older than you. He is tall, probably as tall as Master Zhang, even at his age, and well built. You don’t doubt that he could lift an ox.

“Hello,” you say politely, with your best charming smile. “My name is Guan Shide. I am a humble merchant’s son, and I was wondering if I could talk to you for a second?”

The boy turns to look at you. You can see the wheels turning in his head as he ponders your sudden appearance. Then, he nods, smiling faintly. “Of course. I think I would like nothing better.” The girl by his side, a mousy-looking peasant, jabs him. “Manners, Fu! Introduce yourself.” She turns to you and bows. “My name is Pu’er. This is my husband, Guo Fu. Why do we have the pleasure of your presence?”

You sit down besides the couple. “I am just a humble merchant’s son, as I said. Your husband’s dignified presence drew my curiosity. By the way, you are married?”

Guo Fu smiles as he places a large hand on his wife’s shoulder as she blushes. “Yes, for a few months now. We were betrothed from birth.” Pu’er nods and continues her husband’s statement. “There were some circumstances that stopped us from getting married earlier.”

“Congratulations to the both of you!” you say earnestly. “I wish you matrimonial bliss even unto your white-haired days.” The two blush deeply as they thank you in return, their hands tightly held together. It is something you have never experienced, you muse, and for just an instant you feel slightly envious. Then, you continue, “So, Young Master Guo, what brings you here to the tournament? Should you not be working to support your pretty new wife?”

The boy’s wide face settles into a frown. “That is a long story, sir. I cannot give you the full details, but I was once a farmer’s child. We lost our land. My parents died. I wandered around and only found Pu’er again recently. But these days it is hard for an orphan to find land of his own to work. So I decided to join a school where they could take me on as an apprentice to do odd jobs, while Pu’er could work as a maid. But again it is hard, they didn’t even talk to me most of the time. I heard of the tournament and decided to join. I thought if I fought hard enough here they would notice me. I mean, if I am a member of a school, I will be more liked, and Pu’er could be more safe.”

As he finishes his tale in halting sentences, you listen intently, nodding. He could make his way with just physical labour, but you understand why he doesn’t, even if he does not say it out loud. In terms of short-term results it may not be much different, but in terms of a long-term career, it is a rather significant difference. This is his dream – not to work long hours hauling cargo while his wife washes dishes at a nearby restaurant, but to eventually become a respected pugilist so that he may protect her, and she may be proud of him. Of course, looking at her gaze, you can tell that she is already proud to be his wife.

You nod and pat him on the shoulder. “You are a remarkable man, Guo Fu. I could only wish that I had even half of your drive and responsible nature.”

“Thank you,” he rumbles. “This is the first time anyone has spoken to us since we came here. For some reason, everyone is afraid of us. I do not know why. You are a kind man, Master Guan. I am happy that I met at least one kind man here.”

Smiling at Guo Fu and Pu’er, you bow and take your leave; being labelled as the disciple of Zhang Jue will probably bring him trouble later on, but it is not really any business of yours, is it? At any rate, it is time for you to register in the tournament.

***

A. You register publicly as Zhang Jue’s apprentice. People may or may not believe you, but doing so will definitely send an uproar throughout the entire competition.

B. You register as Guan Shide, humble merchant’s son. You believe you can still keep up the act even if you are competing.

C. You run out and try to purchase a mask, but you find that the tiger and wolf masks are all gone. All that is left is a pig’s mask. You register under the pseudonym:
Pick one-
Wild Pig
Beautiful Pig
Tiger Pig
Man Tiger Pig
Dancing Pig
Zhang Jue
Rong Zhiyu
Nameless the Second
Shu Ji

***

Once rumours begin, they are almost impossible to stop – people are convinced that the Southern Maniac’s apprentice is here. However, they can be easy to encourage. You could try to incite more people to believe that Guo Fu is the Southern Maniac’s apprentice, to draw attention away from you.

1. You inflame the rumours, pretending to be terrified by your brief encounter with him and spreading word that Guo Fu is truly the Maniac’s disciple.

2. You do not do anything about the rumours. Your method of registration will have the desired effect by itself.
 
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treave said:
C. You run out and try to purchase a mask, but you find that the tiger and wolf masks are all gone. All that is left is a pig’s mask. You register under the pseudonym Wild Pig.
tiger_pig7.jpg
 
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Yeah, going with B2.

I'm actually tempted to vote A just to see the effect this would have, but we have been working to preserve our cover for too long to just throw it away now. As for a mask, we are already wearing a much better one - no need to draw more attention to ourselves.

As for the farmer boy, I don't see a point in giving him more problems than he already has. Our cover is already solid, no need to add more confusion.

edit: though Nameless the Second is kind of funny for a name.

Edit: time for some conditional voting - sorry treave

C2 as merchant Guan > C2 as some obvious stage name - absolutely not Zhang Jue > B2 > A2

Edit2: and if C2 winning means that we get to vote for a name separately, just move B2 to the top of that order.
 
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Currently most interesting bit of information is that this could be a team game at the start, so it may be in our best short term interests to stick with our new ox farmer friend (ie someone for that back to back fighting talked about previously) that leans me towards 2, but if we went with 1, he could be more use in the ring if he's feared further as the maniac? Or will he just end up being targeted and removed quicker.

Thinking that way may rule out C as well.


edit: (typo)
 
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We made a good impression on the farmer. Let's make friends. I wonder what his special ability is. Of course, stick to the plan. Seems like there are enough people willing to pretend to be the Maniac's apprentice already.
 

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B2 I don't see a need to make the farmer's life any harder. Besides, I am still hoping to get to the last round, strike a pose, and proclaim, "I am Xu Jing, apprentice to Zhang Jue, the Southern Maniac, and your doom!" before we roundhouse kick our opponent into submission.

Does anyone else chuckle when treave makes a character mention luck?
 

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to hilarious to pass for me still B probably is best.

treave said:
C. You run out and try to purchase a mask, but you find that the tiger and wolf masks are all gone. All that is left is a pig’s mask. You register under the pseudonym Wild Pig.
tiger_pig7.jpg
Although not sure if tiger pig wouldn't be better.
 
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First shadow wolf and now Nameless Tiger. Someone is trolling us.

B2
 

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What the hell? We vote to stay anonymous instead of using the rumours of Zhang's apprentice to our advantage, and now some of you want to announce we are Southern Maniac Junior? What the hell for?! We might as well toss dice at random if we're going to reject new plans and not stick to old ones.

We wanted to stay anonymous as long as possible and Jing has done so very well so far, even though we are now involved with snake girl.

I'm leaning towards C1/2, I think we shouldn't totally let down our guard about this man - nothing says that the Farmer might not have learned a few skills on the road of the speech/charisma side - though I am loathe to screw him over like that. And why give people a lead? Why give people a awy to connect the dots and try and relate what they saw of us outside the tournament with what they see inside? Our strategy is anonymity, why give them a personality and a series of actions to try and make sense of? Go Wild Pig!
 

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Wasn't participating with a mask the plan all along? Do we use the mask in locker rooms also? I think it will make socializing much harder if we use the mask there.
 

Tigranes

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I don't know if B means we mask up and also stay the merchant's son - since only C explicitly talks about masks and what you buy. Or does C mean we mask off later?
 

treave

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I'm willing to keep it flexible. The tournament takes place over a number of days. Now that you have a place to stay, do you keep the mask on as you return, or do you take it off somewhere in the city before going back to the inn, and repeat the same thing the next day?

This choice determines your persona during the tournament itself, not outside of it. That one defaults to the merchant's son for now. In other words, you're pretending to be a naive newbie pretending to be a masked pig.
 

Esquilax

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“This is the first time anyone has spoken to us since we came here. For some reason, everyone is afraid of us. I do not know why. You are a kind man, Master Guan. I am happy that I met at least one kind man here.”

I like the Farmer a lot and I'd feel bad about fucking him over, but something tells me that we might have to. Let's not forget what we're here for, as bro as the Farmer is.

I'm leaning towards C1/2, I think we shouldn't totally let down our guard about this man - nothing says that the Farmer might not have learned a few skills on the road of the speech/charisma side - though I am loathe to screw him over like that. And why give people a lead? Why give people a awy to connect the dots and try and relate what they saw of us outside the tournament with what they see inside? Our strategy is anonymity, why give them a personality and a series of actions to try and make sense of? Go Wild Pig!

I'm inclined to believe that the Farmer is exactly as he appears, just like Yifeng was. He's an honest dude just trying to get by - perhaps not the brightest, but certainly likable and probably a strong competitor. My hunch is that his special ability has something to do with his inner strength: he seems to have a lot of strength and determination, so I think his power is somewhat related to that. Heh, he reminds me a bit of Rocky Balboa, and he's already got his Adrian with him.

As for what to do, I think we should try C1, while using the alias of Zhang Jue. I think it's a good idea; people would think of our persona as some sort of mockery of the Southern Maniac rumour mill going around, while at the same time, they wouldn't be quite sure whether or not The Farmer was truly Zhang's apprentice either. It would keep people very confused - why wear a mask and use an alias of Zhang Jue, while everyone suspects the Farmer of being the real Zhang? It's just the sort of murky set of half-truths that would lead to a lot of confused speculation. Who's the real apprentice anyways, if indeed there is an apprentice?

The best part is, when we're facing our opponents, they'd have no idea what to expect - are we Zhang's apprentice? Is the Farmer? Is this all some silly joke, making fun of all the orthodox types and their fear of the Zhang bogeyman? It's all about misdirection. I think it's a good plan, but
I'm open to flopping.
 

Esquilax

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Well, why not A1, then?

Well, because you're spreading rumours about someone else being Zhang's apprentice while publicly registering as Zhang's apprentice. These Shaolin guys might not be the most street-smart guys around, but even they would immediately figure out that we're trying to frame Guo Fa here because it's so obvious. It's sort of like when your five year old is blaming his sibling for eating all the cookies... while his face is covered in chocolate. A2 is consistent, but I'd prefer remaining anonymous for the reasons that Tigranes suggested.

With C1, things are a lot more murky. The "Zhang Jue" alias and the pig mask implies that we think that this thing is a big fucking joke, but at the same time, we aren't exactly denying potential rumours of being Zhang's apprentice either. To make things even more confusing is the rumours surrounding the Guo Fa being Zhang's apprentice.

It might even lead to a farcical situation where you get a bunch of people coming out of the woodwork claiming to be Master Zhang's apprentice for the duration of the tournament: really, the more people trying to come in trying to claim that reputation while shouting "I AM SPARTACUS!", the more confused the situation becomes. I think that this could work in our favour. Even if someone figures out that we're actually Zhang's apprentice, at that point, so many people will have claimed that they're the Southern Maniac's apprentice that people probably won't even believe it.

I could still flop to B2, but I'm not sure why it would be better than B1? Any thoughts here, guys?
 
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