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[Baltika9]

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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

B>A Now. Full speed toward safety...Well relatively safety.

Elfberserker, bro, are you open to flop back to C? I really don't see this danger of doomy dooms of doom descending on the field because of Evil Zombie Big Wang. If the dude was about to self-destruct or go berserk and Shagguan recognized it, he wouldn;t be rushing towards him in his battered and bruised condition. Likely, the old man is over-exerted and crippled himself with the whole trans location (not teleportation, apparently) and blowing up Ahura's meridians. That, or the old guy is dead.

 

[Nevill]

If the dude was about to self-destruct or go berserk and Shagguan recognized it, he wouldn;t be rushing towards him in his battered and bruised condition.

He obvioulsly wants to take the brunt of the attack, being the strongest of the remaining pugilists.

Likely, the old man is over-exerted and crippled himself with the whole trans location (not teleportation, apparently) and blowing up Ahura's meridians.

In which case you may be depriving him of Cao'er's attention.

That, or the old guy is dead.

Evil dead.

Oh, ScubaV, and regarding the chapter end - the chapter was dedicated to Zhang's challenge, and we are no closer to its resolution than we were since the beginning. So we have six months ahead of us still.

Quote in case:

The chapter is going to go on until the end of Zhang's quest.

 

[Baltika9]

Likely, the old man is over-exerted and crippled himself with the whole trans location (not teleportation, apparently) and blowing up Ahura's meridians.

In which case you may be depriving him of Cao'er's attention.

C doesn't do anything beyond escorting Yunzi to the Cult and offering her our assistance. Anything beyond that isn't covered.
Besides, we don't know jack about his condition, or if he's alive even. My bet is, with the stuff he just pulled off, Cao'er or Kunlun geniuses won't make a difference. And that's a hell of a gamble to take for the off chance that maybe, somehow, through some miracle we will make a huge difference where the orthodox sects' best medics, the Kunlun and to a lesser extent the Wudang (in matters of qi), won't be able to. Jinyas or no, there are limits. Putting up with Yunzi's nagging for that isn't worth it.

 

[Nevill]

C doesn't do anything beyond escorting Yunzi to the Cult and offering her our assistance. Anything beyond that isn't covered.

C implies leaving. That pretty much covers it.

But yes, I don't think the guy is alive anymore. The feat he did is clearly not meant to be performed multiple times.

Putting up with Yunzi's nagging for that isn't worth it.

Hey, you made me put with Cao'er's nagging for less when you jumped the chasm without her. I am just returning the favor.

 

[Nevill]

About this whole Yunzi business.

I don't know about you guys, but I am still pissed. The Flaming Faggot nearly got us killed, our woman nearly got raped, we got our bones shattered and nearly died trying to get her out, Xiaoqing have died, and Qilin would be dead, too, had we tried the Fire Cult diplomacy. As far as the list of slights go, this is a pretty long one. This is wrong, close to Li Ming level wrong. The Fire Cult have offended us, personally, big time. And if Yunzi fancies herself 'one of them', and their leader, well, she has to take responsibility for their actions as a group. Yes, I know that the common folk were not directly responsible - but this is why I am somewhat letting this one slide instead of going Exterminatus on their asses.

I think that warrants at least an apology and an explanation. Sorry, I don't buy that Yunzi does not owe us anything - that was the case until the Fire Cult have decided to involve themselves with Jing. Now they, and by extension, Yunzi, are not a neutral party anymore. This is no longer just their business. If they tried to murder us and take Qilin hostage, at the very least I expect to find out what was the reason that made them attempt such a desperate act. And I think I am being very generous here.

And the man who ordered this still lives. As a cripple, yes, but he is very much alive, and might still be their leader. This is unacceptable. I do not want this, or something similar, happening EVER again.

Letting her go with a pat on the back and maybe asking her to tell the Flaming Faggot not to take slaves anymore is not going to cut it for me. Jing is forgiving, but this crosses a certain threshold where he is becoming a mat.

 

[Esquilax]

Letting her go with a pat on the back and maybe asking her to tell the Flaming Faggot not to take slaves anymore is not going to cut it for me. Jing is forgiving, but this crosses a certain threshold where he is becoming a mat.

Does him becoming a quadriplegic suffice, then? I am not getting the butthurt here, you are really exaggerating what happened here, especially to compare this to what happened to Yang Xue.

 

[treave]

If we want to pinpoint the event that influenced the Fire Temple's attitude towards you... yeah, this one:

A. She’s crossed the line. If you are going to kiss a monster, you might as well kiss a beautiful girl too, to balance things out. It’s too bad that she’s the only living one around, but she’ll have to do. You steal a kiss from her for that uppity remark before jumping in to kiss the toad demoness. Hopefully this works.

 

[Absinthe]

Hey treave, out of curiosity, what would have happened if we voted B or C on the last choice?

 

[Baltika9]

And since it's Q&A, is an early update possible? I'm dying to get this part over with so we can get to the juicy bits. Our girls' juicy bits, that is.

 

[treave]

Hey treave, out of curiosity, what would have happened if we voted B or C on the last choice?

B doesn't work that well, at least from a narrative standpoint. You get beaten up to the point of unconsciousness, miss all the scenes that come afterwards, including the Yunzi capture, and when you wake up everything is already done without your input.

...but you get +1 SWORDS. And a new sword technique, yeah.

C gets you killed.

 

[Nevill]

Does him becoming a quadriplegic suffice, then?

Not really, no. I want his out of the picture, permanently. Dead, exiled, catatonic - whatever.
We know nothing of how their leadership work. If he is in charge, then this shit may happen all over again. Maybe not to us, but the roots would be still there.

I am not getting the butthurt here, you are really exaggerating what happened here.

Am I? I've just listed the fact.
As for Yang Xue, yes, the GFF didn't betray us. That one is not warranted, sure.
I'd like to call your attention to this post by Jester. I very much agree with him. I can forgive a personal slight, but not a slight against our woman. And that was the one that horrified me about Yang Xue most - not the torture he had gone through himself.

I like how you are being considerate to Yunzi, completely forgetting the hell that Qilin narrowly escaped. I guess we are playing favorites here?

 

[Smashing Axe]

OH SHIT PLUS 1 SWORDS?!?!?!

 

[Nevill]

including the Yunzi capture, and when you wake up everything is already done without your input.

Wait, does that mean she stays with us? Since someone has to talk to the orthodoxes.

If we want to pinpoint the event that influenced the Fire Temple's attitude towards you... yeah, this one:

How did they know?

But yeah, she crossed the line. We have to punish her again.

 

[treave]

Well, that would be spoilers, isn't it? Who would have to talk to the orthodoxes and why, though?

 

[Kipeci]

Xiaoqing's unfortunate passing is an opportunity to take up snake farming in Jing's eye; surely Qilin having to train up a new companion would be an ideal time for her to show us how to do the same?

Anyway, Yunzi doesn't really owe us that much. The threat of death, the taking of Qilin as a hostage and so on are squarely on the head of the Fire Cult, not her. That guy got shattered by Wang, so he basically got was coming to him for being a massive, throbbing dick. The bones shattered and near death thing was entirely on the shoulders of the Guardian of Metal, not her-- you'll remember that she saved Jing from getting his soul punched clear from his body or whatever lethal thing the Guardian of Metal was going to do by intervening, so that definitely goes a way to make up for her subordinate following the orders of Ahura and guarding the captive as he was told to. In return, Qilin held her hostage and threatened to kill her, and though I doubt it was really serious from Qilin's end, the relationship between the two seems a little rocky from the past incidents and Yunzi very well might have been fearful for her life.

At any rate, this wouldn't be Li Ming levels of betrayal from Ahura even if he'd managed to do anything other than get himself crippled, that's definitely overexaggeration. Call again when Jing has his harem raped and killed in front of him by a previously considered bro figure as he's tortured, systematically crippled with most sense organs removed from him and is forgotten about in a dungeon all for the sake of a chance of extra life.

 

[Nevill]

Well, that would be spoilers, isn't it? Who would have to talk to the orthodoxes and why, though?

Nah, don't answer if that is spoilery.

I meant, since Yunzi gets captured and we miss the GFF fight, then she will find herself among the orthodoxes without us covering for her. Qilin is not going to release her. So... unless no one would have noticed her, they'd have to decide on her fate.

Kipeci, she tells us she is one of them and their leader. As one of them, she shares responsibility for their actions. As their leader she takes the sole responsibility for their actions. This is not a personal matter.

 

[treave]

If we want to pinpoint the event that influenced the Fire Temple's attitude towards you... yeah, this one:

How did they know?

Less a matter of them knowing, more a matter of that kiss affecting her psyche in ways that end up being very noticeable to the rest of the cult. Might have been just a playful kiss on a whim for him but it weighed on her more than Jing knew (just wait till he uses tongue).

I meant, since Yunzi gets captured and we miss the GFF fight, then she will find herself among the orthodoxes without us covering for her. Qilin is not going to release her. So... unless no one would have noticed her, they'd have to decide on her fate.

Well, assuming that Qilin doesn't decide to let her go quickly so that the orthodox peeps don't get their hands on her. Since you're knocked out and all. But this is all mights and maybes.

 

[Kipeci]

Kipeci, she tells us she is one of them and their leader. As one of them, she shares responsibility for their actions. As their leader she takes the sole responsibility for their actions. This is not a personal matter.

Yeah, no. Ahura outranked her so she couldn't exactly tell him to stop even if she'd been close enough, and she told off the Guardian of Metal when she found him to be fighting us so that he stopped, saving our life. In return, our side's Qilin took her and threatened to kill her. What kind of explanation do you want from her, anyway? Ahura tried to kill us because Yunzi supposedly wouldn't be 'pure' as long as Jing lived, while the Guardian of Metal attacked because we were attempting to grab Qilin and he was instructed by Ahura to guard her. What more of an explanation could you need from her?

 

[Baltika9]

If we want to pinpoint the event that influenced the Fire Temple's attitude towards you... yeah, this one:

How did they know?

Less a matter of them knowing, more a matter of that kiss affecting her psyche in ways that end up being very noticeable to the rest of the cult. Might have been just a playful kiss on a whim for him but it weighed on her more than Jing knew (just wait till he uses tongue).

Oooh. Can't wait... early update?

Kipeci, she tells us she is one of them and their leader. As one of them, she shares responsibility for their actions. As their leader she takes the sole responsibility for their actions. This is not a personal matter.

She wasn't their leader at that point. She will be their leader now, which means a possibility for a fresh start.

 

[treave]

No early update.

 

[Nevill]

I doubt it was really serious from Qilin's end, the relationship between the two seems a little rocky from the past incidents and Yunzi very well might have been fearful for her life.

More like her chastity:

“Yes, I’m Number One, and you’re Number Three. So you’ll have to listen to me from now on, little sister,” grins Qilin mischieviously. Then, she brings her lips close and nibbles Yunzi’s ear gently, causing the Holy Maiden to gasp and turn red.

She will be their leader now, which means a possibility for a fresh start.

That does not really absolve you of responsibility in any way.

We are not talking the same level of responsibility, else we'd have to cripple all of their leaders and set them on fire.
But an apology and an explanation are very much warranted.

The fault lies with the Cult. If she wants to be in charge - and people want to let her go because they count on her being in charge - then she has to be prepared to take the blame for that as well.

 

[Kipeci]

That does not really absolve you of responsibility in any way.

We are not talking the same level of responsibility, else we'd have to cripple all of their leaders and set them on fire.
But an apology and an explanation are very much warranted.

How is the new leadership (we're not 100% sure if she's the new leadership, anyway) responsible for the actions of the old?

You have her apology for Ahura's orders in the form of her saving Jing's life, don't you? Ahura ordered Qilin to be guarded and the Guardian of Metal did what he was supposed to, Yunzi saved us by ordering him to stand down on top of that. She doesn't need to explain their actions; their actions were already explained, in one case by Ahura himself before he attacked and the other being obvious in that guards guard the things they guard when you launch an attack to claim the thing (or person, in this case) that they're guarding.

If there's any party that needs some sort of apology (that we're immediately close to, anyway), it would most likely be Qilin, not us, and I think they kinda got even when Qilin held Yunzi captive. Yunzi doesn't need Jing giving her shit about this and retardedly asking why Ahura attacked him when the reasons were spelled out seconds before he attempted to strike.

 

[Nevill]

Yeah, no. Ahura outranked her so she couldn't exactly tell him to stop even if she'd been close enough, and she told off the Guardian of Metal when she found him to be fighting us so that he stopped, saving our life. In return, our side's Qilin took her and threatened to kill her. What kind of explanation do you want from her, anyway? Ahura tried to kill us because Yunzi supposedly wouldn't be 'pure' as long as Jing lived, while the Guardian of Metal attacked because we were attempting to grab Qilin and he was instructed by Ahura to guard her. What more of an explanation could you need from her?

Well, NO U. The politics work like that - if you succeed your predecessor, you have to answer for his deeds as well. After a war is waged and a government is changed, the reparations are still being paid. After a revolution, the loans of a previous government still remain. Nothing really starts from a clean slate there.

I want to know what are the dealings they have with the Wudu Cult, what did they try to take Qilin hostage for (they did it to influence the Wudu, what did they want?), and what they need for this shit never to happen ever again. Basically, I want to be privy to their affairs, since now they made it my business.

 

[Kipeci]

Well, NO U. The politics work like that - if you succeed your predecessor, you have to answer for his deeds as well. After the war is waged and the government is changed, the reparations are still being paid. After a revolution, the loans of a previous government still remain. Nothing really starts from a clean slate there.

That's because in those cases the powers demanding indemnities or loans have the power to ask for them and something to gain out of it, not as an inherent thing... and in many cases where they do happen, you'll find that those sorts of loans are forgiven and so on to improve relations or else the indemnities aren't paid if the power obligated to pay them is strong enough to make a conflict over the indemnities not being paid worth it. I don't think that Jing is really in a state to make any demands and furthermore I can't see anything good coming out of antagonizing Yunzi while she has bigger shit to worry about right now than Jing demanding to know why Ahura attacked him.

I want to know what are the dealings they have with the Wudu Cult, what did they try to take Qilin hostage for, and what they need for this shit never to happen ever again. Basically, I want to be privy to their affairs, since now thiey made it my busines.

What do you think? The Wudu Cult are master assassins and poisoners, with their future heir as a concubine to the leader of the cult they negotiate from a bit of a position of weakness and thus the Fire Cult could secure better deals for any services that they render, or by holding her captive gain some protection against folks seeking to use the Wudu Cult as a weapon against them. Now that Qilin is out of their clutches and Ahura is down for the count to either die or be crippled for life, obviously they can't use her as a bargaining chip against the Wudu and Ahura might not be making too many more decisions for the Fire Cult.

In Jing's current state, he's not in any position to go demanding answers from them, and I should hope that he wouldn't waste any time demanding answers that he should already know if we think over this just a little.

 

[Nevill]

You seem to be deliberately ignoring my points in favor of some broad answers that are obvious and thus useless. Moreover, you are falsifying them. I know why Ahura attacked Jing, thank you very much. I know they needed a leverage over Wudu. I need details. I need to know what needs to be done for the history not to repeat itself.

They didn't sort that shit by themselves, and now I want to get involved.

And no, since Jing is out of comission for a week, I think he has enough time to listen to a very detailed explanation.

But that's fine. I get it, you don't want to press the issue. I do.