Game News Lord British Kickstarter coming up - "Shroud of the Avatar: Forsaken Virtues"

[Alex]

I dunno, I could see myself backing this if they show they are making the single player aspect of the game very Ultima like. I will at least wait for an update or two before discarding it outright.

He actually puts a lot of emphasize on this in the Rooster Teeth stream.

Oh, I haven't had time to watch that yet. Is there a transcript?

 

[Jaesun]

I dunno, I could see myself backing this if they show they are making the single player aspect of the game very Ultima like. I will at least wait for an update or two before discarding it outright.

He actually puts a lot of emphasize on this in the Rooster Teeth stream.

That should be in the pitch video.

 

[Kosmonaut]

Was saving a little money this week in case Garriott surprised. Might be upping my Torment pledge instead now.

Wish I could up my Shadowrun pledge.

If you pledged using PayPal, you can upgrade to other tiers in the Shadowrun Returns web page.

By now, you can only upgrade pre-orders anymore, not pledges.

Well in the new update they said that you can upgrade Kickstarter pledges, so...

 

[SophosTheWise]

I dunno, I could see myself backing this if they show they are making the single player aspect of the game very Ultima like. I will at least wait for an update or two before discarding it outright.

He actually puts a lot of emphasize on this in the Rooster Teeth stream.

That should be in the pitch video.

Yes it really should. The pitch is very unclear - if you haven't watched the stream the whole MMO/SP thing is quite confusing. Not the best pitch video I've seen, by far.

I dunno, I could see myself backing this if they show they are making the single player aspect of the game very Ultima like. I will at least wait for an update or two before discarding it outright.

He actually puts a lot of emphasize on this in the Rooster Teeth stream.

Oh, I haven't had time to watch that yet. Is there a transcript?

I have no idea, but it's basically a lot of "I'm Lord British! TADA" and very little information. But the actual information is, at least, useful.

 

[Koschey]

Was saving a little money this week in case Garriott surprised. Might be upping my Torment pledge instead now.

Wish I could up my Shadowrun pledge.

If you pledged using PayPal, you can upgrade to other tiers in the Shadowrun Returns web page.

By now, you can only upgrade pre-orders anymore, not pledges.

Well in the new update they said that you can upgrade Kickstarter pledges, so...

Yes, that was really bad (or really good?) timing on the update.

 

[Minttunator]

Yeah, the video was pretty vague - like I said in the other thread, I don't really understand what this game is trying to be. Is it a single-player game with a limited multiplayer component (like some of the IE games)? Is it an MMO that can be played offline and how will that work exactly? Is it just shit? I hope the updates will clear some of this up.

I did find it hilarious, though, how LB was talking about how awesome the Ultima series was while showing clips of Ultima IX.

 

[Broseph]

It's a single player game with the ability to play online in a persistent world with close friends. Sounds fine to me, as a concept, though I'm sceptic of how good the execution will be. The Kickstarter page was pretty unclear. They are driving away a lot of potential backers.

 

[Metro]

What can change the nature of a Garriott?

 

[jaybirdy]

I'm not even going to play this, much less back it

My problem isn't this game, but whether I could ever stomach replaying an old Ultima game again. Those games were special, and it just doesn't make sense that they are a product of this soulless husk of a snake oil salesman. It just doesn't compute

What can change the nature of a Garriott?

Cold hard cash

 

[AC Sleighter]

It's a single player game with the ability to play online in a persistent world with close friends. Sounds fine to me, as a concept, though I'm sceptic of how good the execution will be. The Kickstarter page was pretty unclear. They are driving away a lot of potential backers.

It's going to be utter shit. Single player gets the shaft when multiplayer is added, and this isn't just some tiny little multiplayer to add. Multiplayer is a focus of the game, if not the focus. You aren't going to get a deep single player experience. It may not be an full MMO ( I also wouldn't rule out the bait 'n switch), but it's at the least some MMO/Single player hybrid. It's going to be a dead world, with uncompelling stories, with dress up houses and professions for the MMO crowd. "You make your own stories" is another way to say that they won't be building stories.

This has "shit" stamped all over it.

 

[Metro]

Well he's already over a third of the way there in only a few hours.

 

[Lancehead]

Multiplayer Online Game - which can also be played solo player / offline

Reads to me like single player is secondary.

 

[Broseph]

I'm not saying it won't be shit, I just think the core idea could result in a decent game in the hands of the right team. I'm not backing this but I wouldn't be averse to trying it when it's released.

 

[Metro]

I'm ... saying it ... be shit

 

[Broseph]

Would brofist if I could.

 

[Avantre]

In the comment responses they seem to be emphasising that it'll be a single-player game foremost, with multiplayer elements for those who like that: http://www.kickstarter.com/profile/portalarium/comments

I'm waiting to hear what the game's story is about - if that's interesting I'll put money down.

 

[FrancoTAU]

Yeah, I'm in the confused camp on what the game is focused on becoming. Half the shit I see/read makes it sounds like Ultima Online 2 and the other half make it seem like Baldur's Gate multiplayer option with some larping thrown in if it's your thing. I didn't pledge, but as more info comes out I'm either jumping on board or going to nerdrage hard.

 

[Alex]

Well, I am pretty disappointed again. I finally got around watching some of the videos, and the combat looks awful. They can't well argue that the game is first single player when combat seems taken straight out of an MMO. I mean, even Ultima 8's button mashy combat would be preferable to this standing around and throwing abilities at each other. Also, are the conversations we have seen supposed to be representative of the finished game? Because that is awful little. At least give us the option to ask about people's names and jobs! Also, the overland exploration seems a bit mindless. I guess it is kind reminiscing of the older Ultima's, but the newer ones did that so much better...

But well, I was kinda surrised to see what looked like a mushroom straight out of Ultima 8 in the cemetery, so it isn't like my impression is entirely negative. Still, while not an MMO, I think they are doing this more for the Ultima Online crowd than the single player Ultima crowd.

 

[Jaesun]

Keep in mind this is just a Prototype Alex.

I still stand on that wasting developer time on these MMO mechanics (PvP, Housing, Crafting etc...) instead of a great single player game is a huge mistake.

 

[Infinitron]

but the newer ones did that so much better...

Which newer ones?

 

[Capitalism]

After all, the Human Decline Machine Richie Garry will probably collect all the jewgold he asked for. What a shame.

Meanwhile in Australia: Cleve promises to release extended demo of GRIMOIRE.

 

[Alex]

Keep in mind this is just a Prototype Alex.

I still stand on that wasting developer time on these MMO mechanics (PvP, Housing, Crafting etc...) instead of a great single player game is a huge mistake.

Yeah, the prototype thing can explain the limited dialog. But not the combat or the exploration. Sill, you would think they would at least focus on it a bit, given how important it was for the later Ultimas.

 

[Jaesun]

No fucking shit!

 

[Dhralei]

Meh pass. I'm past my MMO phase