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In Progress Let's Read: Fate/Stay Night

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Hello Page 3, let's be friends!

I almost forgot.

On a related note, the second half of the Fate/Zero anime (eps: 14-26) should start broadcasting in the coming weeks.
The first half was absolutely glorious, would recommend :salute:

Is the anime really that good ? Read 3 chapters of the manga and it was good so maybe it is worth checking out the anime.

I'd recommend it quite readily. It's been a whole season since the first portion so my memory's a bit hazy...
Plenty of things are toned toned from the Manga, especially where Caster and his Master is concerned, some of their scenes are actually quite notorious, I think one of them involved an "organ umbrella."
Visuals are stunning to say the least, they mix 2D and 3D extremely well and the animation is incredibly clean and fluid, even during hectic fight scenes. Maintaining this visual quality was apparently the reason for the hiatus over the "winter season."
And the characters themselves are an absolute joy to watch, Rider and his master, (Waver?) especially so. He is a very, very charismatic leader.

From what I remember of the Fate/Stay night movie and anime, they're absolute kiddie stuff in comparison to their prequel.

I'd love to go into more detail, but my memory is a bit too hazy...



On the subject of Fate related anime, there's also a spinoff called Carnival Phantasm which basically pokes fun of everything in Fate/Stay Night (which means there WILL be a lot of spoilers).
I found the first handful of episodes to be incredibly funny and I would recommend it to any fan of Fate/Stay Night.

I'd very much like to link one of the sketches, but it's practically guaranteed there will be spoilers.
 

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Thanks for the detailed answer, guess I have no choice but to watch it in that case.
 

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I can still spot several places where they've saved in production costs, but Zero is still one of the best animated series today. The only problem I have with is the fact that they've missed the chance to actually adapt from the source material. The long dialogue scenes taken straight from the novel don't quite work so well in animated form... of course talking heads are cheaper, but still.
 

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Zero is definitely a huge improvement over Night, at least so far. Less derpy exposition about how things work, MUCH less derpy 3rd rate romance/angst.

But honestly, the reason I enjoy the Fate/Stay series is to see obscure/original heroes use cool abilities. They both had some interesting highlights in that regard, Zero just does it with a lot less garbage in between moments of awesome.
 

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Right, then. Let's continue.

~~~
Tender Scenery

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: "Eh… take me home?"
"Yeah. It's getting dangerous outside lately, so I'm going to walk you home. Your house is far away. Let me at least do this since you're coming here."

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: "……"
Sakura falls into an awkward silence.
…Did I say something bad?

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: "…But, um… if Nii-san sees you, you'll be in trouble too."
"Oh…"

…That's right.
Sakura's brother, Shinji, doesn't approve of Sakura coming to my place.
He can't object too strongly because she says she's going to Fuji-Nee's house, but it could be a problem if I take her home.
…I don't care about getting falsely accused myself, but it's not good if Shinji takes it out on Sakura.

And he's supposed to be one of your best friends? Christ.

"But I can walk you part of the way, right? We shouldn't run into Shinji between here and the intersection."

"……"

Sakura is silent.
Considering Sakura, she must not be able to lie to Shinji if I take her home even part of the way.
"Oh, then----------"

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Yes, her fifth dan kendo skills must make her the greatest archery instructor evar.

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"……"
I know I'm blushing.
…It's troublesome as Sakura surprises me a lot these days.
Time flies. She was just a junior before. Now, she's a female junior to me.

…How pitiful of me.
Sakura's like family to me, so I can't accept this change.'

So much for becoming Batman.

Whirlpool of Fate 2

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"--------------------------"
I stretch out and adjust my breathing.
I try to empty my mind.

I ignore everything around me and pay attention only to what is inside me.

"--------------Trace, on."
As if to hypnotize myself, I murmur the spell I'm long accustomed to.
No, I really am hypnotizing myself.
As I have no Magic Crest and no knowledge of magic, a spell is only a change to myself.

…Normally, there are no lines in a human body to allow the passage of magical energy.
To artificially change my body to create such a line, I need enough concentration to unify my whole body and every nerve within it.

Magic is a battle with yourself.
For instance, at this very moment, I am inserting a burning steel rod into my backbone.

Owwwwwwww.

This metal rod is the only "Magic Circuit" I can prepare for myself.
When I insert it this deep into my body and connect it to the other nerves, I can finally become a magus.

This is not a metaphor.
In reality, something like a burning tong which cannot be seen or felt is being inserted into my backbone.

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But you cannot become a magus just through effort. It requires born talent and appropriate knowledge.
And of course, I have no talent, and Kiritsugu taught me nothing of magic.
He said something about me having no need of such knowledge.

I still don't know what he meant by that.
But still, it didn't matter to me back then.
I thought that if I could use magic, I could be like him.

But I was not born with talent: no strength of Magic Circuit, no accumulated works of magic handed down for generations.

The work of magic Kiritsugu possessed, the Magic Crest passed down the Emiya family, can only be passed on to a blood relation.
A Magic Crest forces a rejection on those with no blood relation.
So, as an adopted son, I could not receive the Emiya family's Magic Crest.

Well, anyways.
As I don't even know what a Magic Crest is, it doesn't matter if I have one or not.

So now, all it comes down to is training what I can do.
If I want to be a magus, I have to learn magic fit to my nature.

To be blunt, magic is a way to release one's magical energy.
You could say that magical energy is my life force.
It is divided into two forms: a large source, "mana", floating around the world, and a small source, "odo", created inside oneself.

It goes without saying that the large source is superior to the small one.
The power of "mana" is on a completely different level from "odo".
Whatever the form of magic, a spell using the large source far exceeds one using only one's own power.

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This is the talent one is born with, and the number of the Magic Circuits within you is determined the moment you are born.
A normal human being does not have many Magic Circuits.
To begin with, there are always very few.
That is why magi pile them up generation after generation, making their children more suitable to use magic.
I hear some families go too far and increase the number of Magic Circuits by selective breeding.

…Well, since I was raised in a normal family, I don't have many Magic Circuits.

So that leaves only one method open to me.
According to Kiritsugu, every person has at least one form of magic they are fit for.
He said something about drawing out magical energy appropriate to their "origin", but I didn't really understand.
All I know for sure is that even I have some magic I can use, and if I train that magic, I may be able to become like Kiritsugu.

That is why I learned only that magic.
That was eight years ago.
After a lot of thought, Kiritsugu finally accepted me as his student.

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I guess I had no fear as a child.
Kiritsugu smiled bitterly, putting his hand on the nodding Emiya Shirou.

--------What I will teach you will bring you conflicts.
That is why you must not use it in front of people, and you must not cease your practice even though it is difficult to learn.
Well, I don't really care if you break that one.
The most important thing is that magic is something you use not for yourself, but for others. If you do that, you may become a magic user, but you will not become a magus----------

...I guess Kiritsugu didn't want me to become a magus.
I don't care about that.
I don't admire a magus. I admire Kiritsugu.
If I can become like Kiritsugu and be there for someone like on that red day, that will be----------

"-----------------!"
I'm thinking needlessly.
I feel the iron rod in my backbone slide into place.

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"--------------------------------"
I grind my teeth and resume the connection.
After a battle like walking on needles, the iron rod finally arrives deep within me and fuses with my body.

…This process took me about an hour.

After that much time, I'm finally able to make one artificial circuit… one circuit that produces magical energy.

"---------Basic Structure, Analyze."

After that, it becomes a process of naturally flowing magical energy.
Emiya Shirou is no magus.
He is only a magic user, who can create magical energy within his body and channel it into objects.

So there's only one magic possible.
Which is…

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"----------Basic structure, alter."
Before me is a metal pipe.

I will channel magical energy into it, perform the simplest magic, and reinforce its durability.

Basically, channeling your magical energy into something other than yourself is like pouring poison into that object.
It is just as the blood of Emiya Shirou is not the blood of the metal pipe. Pumping different blood only accelerates its breakdown, it certainly wouldn't strengthen it.
To prevent that and to turn the poison into a tonic, one must completely understand the structure of the target and channel the magical energy into small open spaces.

"…Composition, reinforce."
…It must be easy for a skilled magus, but for me, who cannot even create sufficient magical energy, it's as hard as hitting a target hundreds of meters away.
The usual target in archery is 27 meters away.
How much harder it is at many times that distance, goes without saying----------------

"Guh…!"
The heat in my body quickly escapes.
The burning pillar in my backbone disappears, and the lungs stretched to the limit demand air.

"Haa... haa, haa, haaaaaaaa...!"

I arc my back to hold off the daze almost making me pass out.

"Ah… dammit, I failed again…"
There's no change in the metal pipe. It seems that the magical energy I poured into it has evaporated into the air.

"…It's hard to improve something that already has form."
The thing I'm attempting is like adding something to an already complete work of art.

Adding to a complete object risks making it less perfect.
Adding unnecessary things will actually decrease the value.
That is why the magic of "strengthening" is simple yet difficult, and only a few magi use it willingly.

…It's not like I use it willingly either, but it can't be helped as this is the only thing I'm good at.
It would be much easier if I could just form something out of clay and use it instead, but a substitute in appearance doesn't have the internal structure to match.

The junk around here is a good example.
When I fail with strengthening magic, I make some substitute objects to practice and to calm down, but they all end up with nothing inside.
I can visualize something's structure easily, so I can make the outside look like the original. But it's empty inside, and of course, it doesn't do anything.

"---------------------------------"
I wipe the sweat off my brow.
Now that I think about it, I realize my whole body is sweating like I've been drenched with a bucket of water.
…But I'm lucky it just ended like this.
That was really bad.
If I'd taken a second longer to recover myself, I would probably have destroyed most of my body.

"…If I improved every time I came closer to death, there might be some hope…"
It's not even that easy.
But it is true that you won't improve your magic if you're scared of death.

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The first step of a magus is to accept death.
--------Kiritsugu said so sadly.
Maybe he meant that he didn't want me to take such a step.

"…Saving someone means not saving someone else. A superhero is really selfish, huh…?"
Kiritsugu said that to me when I told him I wanted to be just like him.
I still don't know what he meant.
But Emiya Shirou has to become a superhero who goes around saving people, just like Emiya Kiritsugu.

"...But I still can't even do basic things like this. Why do I get distracted by needless things at the most important times? I'm so stupid."

It's not enough to understand the structure of an object with mere vision.
A skilled magus only detects what's important and channels magical energy without waste.

'---------My dream is to become a superhero.'

I remember what Fuji-Nee said during dinner.
I don't think it's embarrassing nor impossible.
It's already determined. Emiya Shirou will succeed Emiya Kiritsugu.

That's why even though I'm inexperienced, I've done everything I can.
I don't know what kind of a person a superhero should be.
So I can only approach it by helping others within the limits of my abilities.

I have aimed straight for that goal for the past five years, but when things just go wrong like this, I do have doubts.
"…Geez, I don't get it, Father.
How can I become a superhero?"

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Sounds like a question for Vaarna. What is a Superhero?

~~~

That was some fairly important characterization for Shirou, I think. As well as a nice glimpse into what magic is and why technology is superior in many regards.

Alrighty, that's the end of the first day. Next update begins the second day, where even more inane things happen!
 

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As recommended I have watched the anime and must say that it truly was very good, but the problem is that after the the fate/stay night visual novel and the fate/zero anime I still want more. Anything else in the series worth mentioning or do I have to wait for the second season of zero ? Was zero based on a visual novel as well (couldn't find anything)?
 

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As recommended I have watched the anime and must say that it truly was very good, but the problem is that after the the fate/stay night visual novel and the fate/zero anime I still want more. Anything else in the series worth mentioning or do I have to wait for the second season of zero ? Was zero based on a visual novel as well (couldn't find anything)?

There is a game, Fate/Extra, that has been translated already.

Also, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia is almost completely translated now, it's a direct sequel to Fate/Stay Night and a Visual Novel. I think.
 

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As recommended I have watched the anime and must say that it truly was very good, but the problem is that after the the fate/stay night visual novel and the fate/zero anime I still want more. Anything else in the series worth mentioning or do I have to wait for the second season of zero ? Was zero based on a visual novel as well (couldn't find anything)?

Does that include "Carnival Phantasm," I also described in my previous post?
In any case, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
 

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Sorry, mang, I have a new job and it's a 24/7, 7 days a week job. Once I settle into things and my schedule normalizes, I'll update.
 

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Well good luck and hope you manage that soon. This novel deserves some recognition and your LP ( LR?) may convince some people to give it a try.
 

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Man, I would have told you that LPing this visual novel would be an impossible feat, it's just too huge. Not to mention that you'd have to show the 2 new paths that appear sfter the end of the normal game. The fact is that there is a great story in there, but I really staggered through the inane inner banter of the protagonist, I really hate that stuff. Hopefully after the first half it gets much better.
 

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Please, tell me you're not going to go through Fate route. It don't add nothing for the next playthroughs and is boring as fuck. Go instead for Unlimited Blade Works, it has way better character development and it's necessary for the Heaven's Feel route, which is the best without any doubt.

As recommended I have watched the anime and must say that it truly was very good, but the problem is that after the the fate/stay night visual novel and the fate/zero anime I still want more. Anything else in the series worth mentioning or do I have to wait for the second season of zero ? Was zero based on a visual novel as well (couldn't find anything)?

There is a game, Fate/Extra, that has been translated already.

Also, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia is almost completely translated now, it's a direct sequel to Fate/Stay Night and a Visual Novel. I think.
Fate/Hollow is way better. The main character is pretty interesting and her servant is codexian to the bone.:obviously:
 

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Well, from what I've gathered Fate is the worst route but is necessary for the exposition it gives to the other routes. So we'll be doing that first. Sorry.
 

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There are events that only occur in Fate route, additional perspectives that are revealed and so forth. Plus the whole personality of the mc changes on the subsequent routes. Not to mention that the true ending wouldn't make any sense if you skip fate.

Also:
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The main character is pretty interesting and her servant is codexian to the bone.:obviously:

Angry Manjaw is codexian to the bone? Are you saying we are all the evils in the Internet?

There are events that only occur in Fate route, additional perspectives that are revealed and so forth. Plus the whole personality of the mc changes on the subsequent routes. Not to mention that the true ending wouldn't make any sense if you skip fate.

True, all routes must be read because they are all part of the puzzle, without Fate you dont understand the motivation of Saber and Shirou since its never stated again in the other routes, similar skipping to HF means missing who Archer is since that is only in UBW.

And there is no "true" ending, I know there been a attempt at reconciling the endings (as only HF provides a final end to the Grail War) as, I guess, Fate route is very popular but I personally prefer HF ... its just nastier and more conclusive IMO.
 

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The main character is pretty interesting and her servant is codexian to the bone.:obviously:

Angry Manjaw is codexian to the bone? Are you saying we are all the evils in the Internet?
Yep. There's also the "rape is the only answer" and the fact that superficially he is all edgy and stuff but he can also be pretty :monocle: when peeling his master's character down.

I also prefer HF route. It has a very nice atmosphere of despair in the last half.
 

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Yep. There's also the "rape is the only answer" and the fact that superficially he is all edgy and stuff but he can also be pretty :monocle: when peeling his master's character down.

I suspect there is more to that since there is a part of Angry Manjaw that goes back to when he was made to assume that role, after all he is not the real thing but rather someone that was made into being that.

I also prefer HF route. It has a very nice atmosphere of despair in the last half.

Well Fate is very idealistic until about the end were the truth about Shirou idealism comes out, UBW is very much a struggle of idealism vs realism but it just Archer Route as HF is "oh boy" were its kinda like Fate but starts much sooner and things just get worst, also its were Shirou does have to make a decision over his idealism (I would say he rationalizes his ideals) and goes with it to the end, its also a very "dirty" route and at the same time very noble.

I think UBW is the route I enjoyed the least because there is no good villains, Caster role simply lasts too long and does not work very well and Gil simply does not work at the end and also it really suffers from being too Archer focused because in the end it resolves around Archer ... the only thing I liked was the Shirou-Rin sex scene as it was two tsundares having sex that was kinda funny, not as ... well wrong as the Shirou-Sakura sex scenes in HF that are more disturbing that anything.
 

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Bah, reached the end of the new patch, the translation apparently ends when Rin come back from England. It was good while it lasted, especially the bridge part and the Angra Mainyu x Saber battle.
 

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Just finished watching the "Unlimited Blade Works" movie. Man, I thought Shirou was an annoying dumbass in the FSN series, but he's twice as bad in this movie. And Saber is so fucking irrelevant you wonder why she's even here. All in all, it was quite forgettable.

The Fate Zero series was fairly decent, on the other hand.
 

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So, an update.

I've finished the damn thing. The whole thing. I just started reading without the intent to take screencaps...

It's actually pretty damn cool in my opinion. I'm gonna start posting more soon.
 

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