The Brazilian Slaughter said:
I as well am curious about this.
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Let's Play Magna Mundi! - Tenochtitlan Nights
- Thread starter Furious Flaming Faggot
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I as well am curious about this.
The Brazilian Slaughter said:Time for the rape.
I played Aztecs in MMU once. Didn't manage to conquer as much as you did because I was bogged with constant rebellions because I changed one of my national ideas or something, DESPITE the third slot being clearly empty. WTF?!
Then when the Spanish came, I raped their army, but the revolters and other tribes raped me.
EDIT: Why didn't you accept that white peace? One province in exchange for super tech-speed bonuses is pratically a free 20 gold in all your research sliders, your province is not even half that much worth. I think keeping one European province near you is always a good idea until modernization.
I've heard of this happening before. Pretty sure its just a bug. I assume Faggot is good enough at modding MMU to fix it himself. If anyone knows how to fix this bug, it would be greatly appreciated if they would let us all know how to do so.
Also, Slaughter, would you happen to know how entertaining Portugal is in MMU? Portugal seems like the perfect country for a playthrough mostly focused on colonization and naval development, but I hear the Spanish keep fucking with you.
And Faggot, SOON AZTLAN WILL TREMBLE BEFORE THE MIGHT OF THE GREAT MICKTLANTECUHTLI!!!
Furious Flaming Faggot
Educated
That's just a bug with New World countries. It happens regardless of what you do with your ideas. You fix it by opening the console with alt + 21 on the numpad, then putting in "event 623048" or "event 623047" without the quotes. Both of those events removes the "Reneging the Past" modifier, the latter one also gives +1 stability if you're a cheating faggot.
I didn't even think of letting them keep the province. Jewitzipotl must have overtaken me. Either way, they'll be colonising up from the South quite soon.
I didn't even think of letting them keep the province. Jewitzipotl must have overtaken me. Either way, they'll be colonising up from the South quite soon.
Furious Flaming Faggot
Educated
Sorry about the slight delay, updatan now.
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Merkwürdigliebe
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I was promised an update, I don't see an update. 
Furious Flaming Faggot
Educated
The Jew-devils sabotaged my connection, sorry bro.
At first, no one thinks much of it. Similar things have happened before. There have been several incidences of disease through the Empire, spreading outwards from the East Coast not long after the arrival of the Anglish. Unlike the unsuspecting populace, the Emperor is given great and immediate cause for concern. Both Quetzalcoatl and Brotzalcoatl have warned him, that this plague may well become the undoing of all Aztlan, that it is a curse sent down by the Arch Jew-devil, to destroy the holy city of Tenochtitlan. The Emperor responds to this by coordinating a system of quarantines across the Empire, expecting the plague to spread outwards. The populace will not be happy, but they'll be dying of plague in a few months anyways, so why worry?
As expected, the Plague begins moving. Several hundred cases spring up in Mixtec.
(I chose the first option because the second one drains manpower, and from my experience neither really seems to affect how long the plague stays.)
Fortunately, the plague in Mixtec doesn't get very far, thanks to Emperor Tehuetstiquitzin's precautionary measures , but unless the Jew-devils are having an off day, this is far from over.
The plague ravages Tamaulipas, but after several months it subsides there as well. It would seem that the plague has been averted, but it is not entirely gone. More incidents of plague may occur, so the Emperor maintains some of the quarantines. Gods willing, this will not reach Tenochtitlan.
Meanwhile, activity on part of the Anglish would suggest that they lack the resources to send more men from their distant home. Perhaps they are engulfed in wars with other strange peoples in their own country? They will probably lose the will to fight entirely quite soon.
Excellent.
You lied to me!
As the Sun-Emperor feared, the plague suddenly reappears. Tens of thousands die in only a few months, and it is likely that it will get worse.
The plague subsides in some areas, and grows in others, but the death toll remains high throughout the Empire. In some rural areas, religious leadership is breaking down as the old and wise die out. The Anglish don't seem to have noticed the plague, a new assault now would be disastrous. Hopefully they will soon give up on their conquest, so the Emperor can focus on bringing his people through this new crisis.
The plague continues to spread upward through the Empire, even as it dies down in the South. It is as though an army of invisible Jew-devils is marching on Tenochtitlan
The plague takes its toll. The people mourn, but the stern leadership of the great Emperor is seeing Aztlan through.
The last pockets of Anglish and rebel resistance are crushed in Tohancapan, leaving the Emperor in de facto rule. The province is reclaimed for Aztlan, and any remaining rebellious sentiment is quickly dealt with.
With no foothold on the continent, the Anglish are forced to give up the war. No treaty is signed, but it is clear that there won't be any Eye-rish degenerates in Tohancapan for some time.
(This is a forced white peace, it happens when there have been no battles for a couple of years, and neither side is occupying an enemy province)
The Anglish and their Eye-rish monstrosities have been beaten back into the ocean, and the Tohancapan rebels have been crushed. The crisis of the plague remains, and many are still at risk, but the political situation has calmed down significantly. There is hope yet.
War and disease have still been a drain. Aztlan is no longer the Empire is was, but Gods willing, it will recover.
The plague worsens, but the general trend of deaths suggests that Jewitzipotl's reign of terror is coming to an end.
The Anglish invasion revealed in full the true loyalties of the tribes. Although they respect the Emperor's strength, in a crisis they cannot be trusted. Still, now is not the time for more brutalities. The Emperor, in his wisdom and infinite mercy, shows clemency to the rebels by only sacrificing half of them.
Meanwhile, a minor provincial incident with a Nobleman escalates to a dispute large enough to reach Imperial ears. The wrong choice here could lead to catastrophe. Many people have been badly affected by the quarantines. To assuage their anger, the Emperor opts to sacrifice the noble to Tlaloc. This does not go over well with the Aristocracy, but it prevents a large scale peasant revolt.
The Emperor's hold over government begins to slip, as the plague continues to claim hundreds and internal tensions mount.
Another outbreak of plague. The Jew-devil SuperAIDS simply will not die, no matter how far the Emperor beats it back. Jewitzipotl must have been planning this for some time.
The plague, diminishing pay, and immensely harsh discipline has driven many soldiers to desert. Morale is very low. Although there are still enough men to put down any revolt, this is a disturbing development.
Butthurt, both domestic and foreign, will not be tolerated!
The plague seems to be fading and then re-surging regularly, as though Jewitzipotl and Brotzalcoatl are locked in a fierce struggle over the fate of Aztlan. This clearly calls for more sacrifices. Perhaps sacrificing the infected and eating their delicious, juicy hearts might work? Without the Emperor's wisdom and clarity of thought, the Empire would surely have slid into ruins. He has been invaluable in staving off the worst of the plague, and it would be a terrible blow to lose hi-
The Gods never disappoint.
At first, no one thinks much of it. Similar things have happened before. There have been several incidences of disease through the Empire, spreading outwards from the East Coast not long after the arrival of the Anglish. Unlike the unsuspecting populace, the Emperor is given great and immediate cause for concern. Both Quetzalcoatl and Brotzalcoatl have warned him, that this plague may well become the undoing of all Aztlan, that it is a curse sent down by the Arch Jew-devil, to destroy the holy city of Tenochtitlan. The Emperor responds to this by coordinating a system of quarantines across the Empire, expecting the plague to spread outwards. The populace will not be happy, but they'll be dying of plague in a few months anyways, so why worry?
As expected, the Plague begins moving. Several hundred cases spring up in Mixtec.
(I chose the first option because the second one drains manpower, and from my experience neither really seems to affect how long the plague stays.)
Fortunately, the plague in Mixtec doesn't get very far, thanks to Emperor Tehuetstiquitzin's precautionary measures , but unless the Jew-devils are having an off day, this is far from over.
The plague ravages Tamaulipas, but after several months it subsides there as well. It would seem that the plague has been averted, but it is not entirely gone. More incidents of plague may occur, so the Emperor maintains some of the quarantines. Gods willing, this will not reach Tenochtitlan.
Meanwhile, activity on part of the Anglish would suggest that they lack the resources to send more men from their distant home. Perhaps they are engulfed in wars with other strange peoples in their own country? They will probably lose the will to fight entirely quite soon.
Excellent.
You lied to me!
As the Sun-Emperor feared, the plague suddenly reappears. Tens of thousands die in only a few months, and it is likely that it will get worse.
The plague subsides in some areas, and grows in others, but the death toll remains high throughout the Empire. In some rural areas, religious leadership is breaking down as the old and wise die out. The Anglish don't seem to have noticed the plague, a new assault now would be disastrous. Hopefully they will soon give up on their conquest, so the Emperor can focus on bringing his people through this new crisis.
The plague continues to spread upward through the Empire, even as it dies down in the South. It is as though an army of invisible Jew-devils is marching on Tenochtitlan
The plague takes its toll. The people mourn, but the stern leadership of the great Emperor is seeing Aztlan through.
The last pockets of Anglish and rebel resistance are crushed in Tohancapan, leaving the Emperor in de facto rule. The province is reclaimed for Aztlan, and any remaining rebellious sentiment is quickly dealt with.
With no foothold on the continent, the Anglish are forced to give up the war. No treaty is signed, but it is clear that there won't be any Eye-rish degenerates in Tohancapan for some time.
(This is a forced white peace, it happens when there have been no battles for a couple of years, and neither side is occupying an enemy province)
The Anglish and their Eye-rish monstrosities have been beaten back into the ocean, and the Tohancapan rebels have been crushed. The crisis of the plague remains, and many are still at risk, but the political situation has calmed down significantly. There is hope yet.
War and disease have still been a drain. Aztlan is no longer the Empire is was, but Gods willing, it will recover.
The plague worsens, but the general trend of deaths suggests that Jewitzipotl's reign of terror is coming to an end.
The Anglish invasion revealed in full the true loyalties of the tribes. Although they respect the Emperor's strength, in a crisis they cannot be trusted. Still, now is not the time for more brutalities. The Emperor, in his wisdom and infinite mercy, shows clemency to the rebels by only sacrificing half of them.
Meanwhile, a minor provincial incident with a Nobleman escalates to a dispute large enough to reach Imperial ears. The wrong choice here could lead to catastrophe. Many people have been badly affected by the quarantines. To assuage their anger, the Emperor opts to sacrifice the noble to Tlaloc. This does not go over well with the Aristocracy, but it prevents a large scale peasant revolt.
The Emperor's hold over government begins to slip, as the plague continues to claim hundreds and internal tensions mount.
Another outbreak of plague. The Jew-devil SuperAIDS simply will not die, no matter how far the Emperor beats it back. Jewitzipotl must have been planning this for some time.
The plague, diminishing pay, and immensely harsh discipline has driven many soldiers to desert. Morale is very low. Although there are still enough men to put down any revolt, this is a disturbing development.
Butthurt, both domestic and foreign, will not be tolerated!
The plague seems to be fading and then re-surging regularly, as though Jewitzipotl and Brotzalcoatl are locked in a fierce struggle over the fate of Aztlan. This clearly calls for more sacrifices. Perhaps sacrificing the infected and eating their delicious, juicy hearts might work? Without the Emperor's wisdom and clarity of thought, the Empire would surely have slid into ruins. He has been invaluable in staving off the worst of the plague, and it would be a terrible blow to lose hi-
The Gods never disappoint.
Hellraiser
Arcane
Internal turmoil and plagues, it's a good thing the English proved to be incompetent while the Spanish are no where to be seen so far.
Brotzacoatl saves indeed.
Brotzacoatl saves indeed.
Vaarna_Aarne
Notorious Internet Vandal
I think the loss of base tax from the plague events is a bit of bullshit, due to how fucktardely important but static base tax is.
Furious Flaming Faggot
Educated
Curiously, the plague hasn't hit México yet. I remember from my last playthrough as the Aztecs that the event is substantially worse when it hits the capital. I distinctly remember -3 stability and the city population dropping to 50,000
Renegen
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Hey, great LP. I thought this would be the best place to ask though, since I'm having a problem. I'm playing MM with the Ottoman Empire and realized now that around 1700 I'm very far behind in technology, what gives? According to the technology screen, I am Eastern Group at 100%, no backwards research penalties. I noticed that the problem is I have ridiculous technology costs and neighbor bonus remains so small even though some advanced countries (erm, Hungary) touch me.
Breaking Axe
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Furious Flaming Faggot said:
I had it hit my capital twice, it was almost a worthless province by the time the plague was through with it, at least as far as base tax is concerned.
Vaarna_Aarne
Notorious Internet Vandal
IIRC, all tech groups in MM are set to 100%. The non-westernized penalties are hidden modifiers. So basically, your problem is that you didn't become Centralized, Innovative and Free, because that's what gets you Westernization.Renegen said:
EDIT: Btw, you want this little provincial decision I made that allows for Westernized countries to raise the base tax of a province by 1 (maximum 4) by spending 1000 gold (naturally you'd have to lower this in MMU due to how scarce money is in it, something they didn't fix with universities and the like), unless they have too many provinces (currently 10)?
Renegen
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Hmm, interesting. So I need centralized and innovative and free? I recently got -5 in centralization, but I'm still at 0 in free subjects and +2 in innovative. The noble empire cannot abandon its honourable Muslim roots, and all that.
Your mod seems interesting, especially for minors. Link?
Your mod seems interesting, especially for minors. Link?
Vaarna_Aarne
Notorious Internet Vandal
It's not really mod, just a series of minor fixes I do whenever I play a Paradox game. I can post the various stuff I've got if you want.
Furious Flaming Faggot
Educated
The Jew-devil plague has taken a heavy toll on the great Aztlan Empire. The peasant scum are revolting, many altars lie bare of blood, soldiers are deserting their posts. The Emperor, even though he has only recently ascended, is the last line of defense, overseeing the maintenance of good order despite the horrors of the plague. Rebel scum and Jew-devils stand no chance against this spirit of the Jaguar!
Huitzilopochtli has granted us the sacred fruit of victory, and his kindness is repayed in blood.
The Jew-devils are evasive though. Even Quetzalcoatl cannot pin them down. We will have to fight this plague back inch by inch, yet it spreads much faster than it could ever be beaten.
Fearing what might happen if the plague gained a foothold in Tenochtitlan, the new Emperor begins enacting quarantines in areas recently affected by the Jew-devil scourge.
Even in times of crisis, parasites seek to drain out the soul of the Empire. Such scum cannot be allowed to Prosper. A particular trade minister has been expanding his power and influence at the expense of the quarantine effort. For his corruption, he is sent to the altar naked and in chains, like an Eye-rish.
The Emperor continues to centralise power. The quarantine effort has given him good cause for this, so the reforms go through without much protest.
Plague cases begin to dwindle, although there is no reason to yet suspect that it might subside entirely. The Hook-nosed Ones are a tricky lot like that.
The Aristocracy has been a barrier against Imperial power for some time now, but they seem to be calming down. Their revolt during the Anglish rebellion taught the last Emperor a hard lesson, and he passed that experience down to his son, who is intent on stripping away Noble power.
As such, the Emperor takes strides towards developing a "middle class" of sorts. This does not go over well with the rich and powerful, but if they wish to offer themselves up against the plague, that's their choice.
Imbeciles! Parasites! You will feel the butthurt of the Gods!
The recent reforms and controversies have deeply shaken good, Imperial order. Aztlan has suddenly been thrown into a state of chaos, although the plague does seem to be wearing out. The Emperor will not tolerate disorder, and immediately institutes the most drastic of measures.
The Aristocracym as expected, reverts back to outrageous butthurt.
The tribes, stricken with plague and angered by the actions of their Monarch, are now refusing to send their tribute payments. The Emperor is hardly in a position to individually punish them either. His grip over the tribes is starting to slip.
The devastation wrought by the plague, harsh quarantines, and the recent political chaos has thrown the lower classes into open revolt. Meanwhile, the outer tribes continue to reclaim power from Tenochtitlan.
The Jew-devils seem to have vanished, as suddenly as they appeared. Nevertheless, the devastation they wrought will not simply go away. Things will never be the same again, even if the Emperor can pull Aztlan through this crisis.
Backwards jaguar-fuckers!
At the very least, the worst of the chaos quickly subsides, thanks to the Emperor's policy of "Sacrifice and Forget".
Even some of the most loyal tribes around Tenochtitlan are plotting against their Emperor. This cannot be tolerated. The Royal Tenochtitlan army is called up to crush these dissidents, although it is still too chaotic to begin subjugating the outer tribes.
Tenochtitlan itself is secure, but the Emperor's authority in the provinces continues to degrade. Even with Jewitzipotl's plague behind us, his trickery lingers still.
Meanwhile, Brotzalcoatl brings news from across the sea. The Anglish are gaining ascendance in their own homeland...
Back in Aztlan, the situation is beginning to normalize. The plague seems to have faded, and order is being restored throughout the Empire. It will take some time to truly bring the tribes back to heel, but for now all is well.
Using the sudden prosperity, the Emperor orders the construction of a provincial accountant for Tenochtitlan and the surrounding lands. Why? Because he (I) can.
Crazy philosophers with their free thinking and frictionless sodomy.
The Anglish invasion is fading into distant memory. Even the plague will, Gods willing, soon become mere history. The chaos of the past few years is subsiding. Change, after so much strife, is inevitable. It only falls to the Emperor to decide what shape that change will take. There is of course the option to remain as Aztlan always was, only now sporting the guns and horses of the invaders, but such a change would ultimately be of little long term benefit in the war against the Anglish.
The other choice is to embrace the strange technologies and ways of the invader. Aztlan will never become Anglish, for the Aztlan people are far better than those seaborne cripple-molesters, but it must be admitted that their ways have some merit. After long, careful consideration, the Emperor comes to a decision. For Aztlan to avenge itself upon the Anglish and Prosper in this much larger world, the ways of the invader must be embraced, not shunned. In good time, Gods willing, we will be the ones filling the assholes of our enemies with magic black powder!
Of course, this is not taken well. The country is plunged back into chaos as the Emperor begins enacting his extremely radical new policies. A massive revolt even breaks out in holy Tenochtitlan itself.
The new reforms build directly on the slow changes enacted by previous Emperors. Tribalism is now a purely provincial issue. The Emperor is now not only a mighty tribal overlord, but a supreme Monarch, appointed by the Gods to rule regardless of actual merit.
Old, brutal measures from the plague and the subsequent political chaos are reintroduced, so that no other potentially devastating revolts break out during this sensitive period of transition,
The Emperor is also intensely interested in the sea. The wooden vessels of the Anglish are a sight to behold, and without anyway of traversing the sea, revenge is impossible.
The Aristocracy are of course displeased, and revert back to their normal state of terminal butthurt.
The Emperor's new government does prove remarkably efficient, despite the severe instability. When things calm down, the Emperor expects that taxation and tribute will increase dramatically, and all other aspects of administration will improve as well.
Aztlan is back on its way to being mighty once more! The Emperor is establishing himself as not only the ruler of a ragtag collection of vaguely similar tribes, but of Aztlan, Nation of the Gods.
Brotzalcoatl saves!
ironyuri
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Btw bro, update your sig with this and your last LP of Andhairavid Empire. (Was there another one after Andhaira?)
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Btw bro, update your sig with this and your last LP of Andhairavid Empire. (Was there another one after Andhaira?)
Furious Flaming Faggot
Educated
ironyuri said:
Dammit, now I can no longer procrastinate about that.
Hellraiser
Arcane
Brotzacoatl has truly blessed the Aztlan people.
Vaarna_Aarne
Notorious Internet Vandal
By the way, don't you have access to Transitional Monarchy as well? From what I remember from checking the files, it's outrageously good, second only to Enlightened Despotism and Revolutionary Empire (unless you count the Imperialism casus belli Absolute Monarchy gives you as a bonus).
Kashmir Slippers
Magister
Nice to see that you can overcome the game shitting on you over and over with the slider events.
I know I would have just thrown my computer out of the window after the second one.
I know I would have just thrown my computer out of the window after the second one.
Furious Flaming Faggot
Educated
Transitional monarchy is much later. I just managed to reach government tech 5, and transitional is around 18 I think. Transitional Monarchy is basically just there as the route away from Oligarchy, as Oligarchy is shit.
Absolute Monarchy doesn't give Imperialism in MM. Imperialism is a colonial Cassus Beli for conquering non-Europeans overseas, I used it frequently in the Livonia-Kurland LP.
Absolute Monarchy doesn't give Imperialism in MM. Imperialism is a colonial Cassus Beli for conquering non-Europeans overseas, I used it frequently in the Livonia-Kurland LP.
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