Kayerts
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Storyfag said:Completing the Transcendence Protocol for anyone means Mankind dies, methinks, so this is right out.
Oh, interesting idea; where are you getting that, though?
Storyfag said:Completing the Transcendence Protocol for anyone means Mankind dies, methinks, so this is right out.
The Brazilian Slaughter said:4. Is pretty retarded, because its nearly impossible. To do so, we would need to take the Imperial Palace, STOP the Dragon from going to Mars, quickly understand the Dragon's machinery, then go to Mars and jump on the right place before we get killed by the Grim Reaper.
I have been thinking those days, and I'm getting worried about C. I don't like the idea of opening another warp rift so near Earth. I think we will make a new eye of terror, and possibly get everyone near Mars soul-sucked. That seems like a pretty cool option at first sight, but I think it might be actually a game-over option for Jeremiah and company.
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I'm beginning to get more sympathethic to B and D. B might destroy the Nightbringer along with the machine, and I think he can't get out of Mars due to the forcefield without going straight to Terra. That means Nightbringer ends up either dead, trapped or forced to go to Terra, where he may fight the Dragon. I still think we should leave Terminus for the last choice.
root said:freeze the Nexus in Mars without Nightbringer noticing or caring (by this point it should be obvious he isn't a total dumbfuck) and destroy VD who is still quite formidable on his own without him noticing what Malygris is doing and reaching the override on Terra (of course there is an override); or destroy VD without allowing him to reach the Teleportarium while still on earth. Then reach the Mind beneath the Golden Throne (The Original Mind, the one on Mars is the operative, this seems to be a misconception: The one that talked to the Hivemind and talked to the Dragon isn't the same AI that is on Mars.) while 10 thousand grey knights try to kill. Then you'd have to decode the protocols, make the original transcend you instead of VD and hope you don't go mad with having your consciouness becoming expanded to infinity, and then you'd still have to deal with the original mind, nightbringer and whatever it is you left behind.
Kayerts said:It's looking increasingly like all the choices just offer different ways for humanity to be exterminated
The Brazilian Slaughter said:Storyfag said:Mars is still protected by that fucking refractor shield, remember? We didn't overload it permanently. Or at least that's how I understood root.
Also, our ability to kill the VD and the Reaper is disputable. The latter survived fucking reformed Khaine AND a gazillion of Lords of Change. The former is of the same species, and therefore reasonably can be expected to be as resilient.
Finally, leaving us against "only" the Swarmlord and the Tyranids is simply lulzworthy.
We could overload it again and shoot with the rest of our fleet's firepower, though I'm not sure how much of the huge necron fleet we just wrecked remains. Does Chaos possess Cyclonic Torpedoes? A two-stage cyclonic torpedo would do a number on Mars, enough to destroy whatever sustains the forcefield, then mop up the rest with the good ol' Armageddon Cannon.
Yeah, C'tan are sturdy like hell, but they're material Gods. I don't think even they can survive a focused-planet shattering energy beam of death. If Ahriman and Swarmlord fail, shooting them with the Armageddon Cannon is the best plan. The bad thing is that if they're in Mars, then Terminus is useless against them.
Well, Tyranids are GOING to devour the galaxy. Void Dragon will DEVOUR SOULs here and now, and Nightbringer will reap a harvest of human souls as soon as the Dragon dies.
Swarmlord is a interesting case. He is sentient enough to recognize us as co-belligerants, but if he can be reasoned with, that is another question. From the short spell of time we played with him, he seemed pretty sane compared to the Hivemind's unending in(s)ane screeching. We have no idea if he eventually became more of a individual or went closer to the Hive Mind. He saluted Jeremiah shortly before his assault on Terra, and Ahriman was capable of hearing the Hivemind talk with The Mind, so communication is possible. That depends on the next update, because so far we're in Mars and have no idea what the hell is happening. He may be the key to stopping the Tyranids or maybe at least weakening them by killing it near the Grey Knights, destroying the Swarmlord forever once and for all.
The Brazilian Slaughter said:BTW, anybody knows any source material that can find me what kind of weaponry Chaos uses in their ships? I tried W40K wikia and Lexicanum, nothing big so far.
Well, Tyranids are GOING to devour the galaxy. Void Dragon will DEVOUR SOULs here and now, and Nightbringer will reap a harvest of human souls as soon as the Dragon dies.
Swarmlord is a interesting case. He is sentient enough to recognize us as co-belligerants, but if he can be reasoned with, that is another question. From the short spell of time we played with him, he seemed pretty sane compared to the Hivemind's unending in(s)ane screeching. We have no idea if he eventually became more of a individual or went closer to the Hive Mind. He saluted Jeremiah shortly before his assault on Terra, and Ahriman was capable of hearing the Hivemind talk with The Mind, so communication is possible. That depends on the next update, because so far we're in Mars and have no idea what the hell is happening. He may be the key to stopping the Tyranids or maybe at least weakening them by killing it near the Grey Knights, destroying the Swarmlord forever once and for all.
The Machine Mind to the Hivemind said:When your Swarmlord faces the Empty Knights, he'll be cut off from you. I'll make sure he knows the truth. I'll tell him personally. Surrender, retreat, flee somewhere else, and I'll spare you.
hoodoo said:when its all said and done, and the ages have gone by and history has judged us - at least they will say we fucked up good
Z) Invite the Void Dragon to Mars, release the Machine God, ramming speed Jeremiahs flagship into Mars, send Ahriman to the Golden Throne.
With a clusterfuck like that going on there should still be some room for some more maneovering anyways, whether it be siding with a God, or Terminus Decreeing everybody. At least well know which God is the strongest.