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Company News Interplay vs. Bethesda, legal battle info

Volourn

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Shiva is a full of shit Bethesda lawyer or developer. Fuck that loser.
 

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Xor said:
Awor Szurkrarz said:
If it's so obvious then why does the process still last?

The American legal system is slow and convoluted. Actually, being trapped in litigation for a decade is exactly the kind of fate I'd wish on Herve.

Herve may be a lousy businessman but at least he's not Hines, Howard or The Doctors.
 

Xor

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Herve killed Van Buran and shut down Black Isle. In favor of releasing Brotherhood of Steel, an abomination few seem to remember was actually worse than anything Bethesda has done.
 

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Don't take anything Prosper says seriously. In fact, just reading his posts can actually cause you to take sanity damage.



And now I want to run a Call of Cthulhu game where the players have to read Prosper posts
 

Wunderpurps

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I wouldn't mind teaming up with Herve. He has proven he has true wasteland survival skills and therefore deserves the full rights to Fallout franchise.

It sounds crazy but if you completed your own fallout 5 or sequel to any other franchise and it was decent you could probably shop it around to find a publisher to get the rights. Fallout is expensive IP but there's lots of neglected old games. And if they say no you can just change rename it.
 

Volourn

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"an abomination few seem to remember was actually worse than anything Bethesda has done."

BOS was ok for what it was fun. A nice lttle action game. Betehsda, on the other hand, just makes shitty rpg after shitty rpg after shitty rpg after shitty rpg after shitty rpg. You see the pattern?

FOBOS > DF+A+MW+O+S+F03


Game over, game fukkin' over.
 
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Bethesda is probably trying to make Interplay bankrupt with all the legal fees.

How they can pay whatever Hungarian developer working on the MMO is beyond me.
 
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flabbyjack said:
But I'll tell you this -- Interplay is regretting not selling the Fallout IP to Obsidian for less money.

Don't you mean Troika?

And what does the cat lawyer from Bethesda, have to say about this?

http://www.terra-arcanum.com/phpBB/view ... hp?t=11230

IGNPC: Interplay is still working on the Fallout MMORPG it had announced. Does this mean Interplay still owns the Fallout intellectual property?

Pete Hines: Yes. We've licensed the rights to Fallout 3 as well as sequels -- Fallout 4, Fallout 5.

Pete Hines made it clear what the intent of the deal was.
 
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Davaris

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flabbyjack said:
But I'll tell you this -- Interplay is regretting not selling the Fallout IP to Obsidian for less money.

Don't you mean Troika?

Edit:
<snip>

Oh wait, my failing memory again. The Interplay people made a second deal.
 

Shiva

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Volourn said:
Shiva is a full of shit Bethesda lawyer or developer. Fuck that loser.

Me a "Full of shit" Bethesda Lawyer or Developer?? Hang on a sec whilst I try not to crack a rib laughing!!!
Nice to know I come across as intellectual enough to be mistaken for a lawyer & creative enough to be confused for a developer. But I'll have you know that I'm not full of shit. I mean, I was about 2 hours ago but I've since relieved myself of the extra weight. :)

Anyway, from what I've read on this it would appear that whilst Interplay insist that they have secured funding they have yet to prove this claim. It does make you think though, had they secured the near $30million funding, why would they then contract Masthead Studios to do the work for a rumoured deal that means Masthead get paid a percentage of the profits from the game rather than being paid upfront? Also, Interplay made a $1million loss last year, have debts of over $2.5million, have only $3,000 in ready cash, are rumoured to have just 7 staff & have already stated that they may have to liquidate assets or be forced into bankruptcy. Doesn't sound like a company with $30million worth of secured funding to me.

I think Bethesda's (Or Zenimax Media to be exact) tactic here may be to drain Interplay's finances further with this legal challenge & possibly force them to the wall. That way they can take over making the fallout MMO & enjoy more than the reported agreed upon 12% of profits made from a Fallout MMO.
Underhanded? Maybe. But does it make sense for Bethesda to use such tactics? In my opinion, certainly.
 
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Shiva said:
Nice to know I come across as intellectual enough to be mistaken for a lawyer & creative enough to be confused for a developer.

I see what you did there.
 

Wunderpurps

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Shiva said:
Volourn said:
Shiva is a full of shit Bethesda lawyer or developer. Fuck that loser.

Me a "Full of shit" Bethesda Lawyer or Developer?? Hang on a sec whilst I try not to crack a rib laughing!!!
Nice to know I come across as intellectual enough to be mistaken for a lawyer & creative enough to be confused for a developer. But I'll have you know that I'm not full of shit. I mean, I was about 2 hours ago but I've since relieved myself of the extra weight. :)

Anyway, from what I've read on this it would appear that whilst Interplay insist that they have secured funding they have yet to prove this claim. It does make you think though, had they secured the near $30million funding, why would they then contract Masthead Studios to do the work for a rumoured deal that means Masthead get paid a percentage of the profits from the game rather than being paid upfront? Also, Interplay made a $1million loss last year, have debts of over $2.5million, have only $3,000 in ready cash, are rumoured to have just 7 staff & have already stated that they may have to liquidate assets or be forced into bankruptcy. Doesn't sound like a company with $30million worth of secured funding to me.

I think Bethesda's (Or Zenimax Media to be exact) tactic here may be to drain Interplay's finances further with this legal challenge & possibly force them to the wall. That way they can take over making the fallout MMO & enjoy more than the reported agreed upon 12% of profits made from a Fallout MMO.
Underhanded? Maybe. But does it make sense for Bethesda to use such tactics? In my opinion, certainly.
No, you are just a marketing drone.
 
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I think it's time to indulge in the inane conspiracy theory that Herve's Interplay is nothing more than a massive money-laundering scheme or some sort of front. It does present a plausible (no, not really, but humor it bros) explanation for how Herve has kept the company afloat through all of the terrible mismanagement, massive flops, and financial troubles. And it could explain why Herve is willing to take Zenimax to the mat in court, even though anyone could realize Zenimax would easily be able to win through attrition (billable hours ain't cheap).

Herve_Caen.jpg

The face of a criminal mastermind or a washed up porn-star? YOU DECIDE!

Anyway, both parties being paired with one another in legal hell is no sweat off my back.
 

Micmu

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Edward_R_Murrow said:
I think it's time to indulge in the inane conspiracy theory that Herve's Interplay is nothing more than a massive money-laundering scheme or some sort of front. ...
He finds investors, pretends to be making games, hires some small teams to do some demo screens to convince publishers that work is progressing and suddenly, before *anything* is made, all money disappears...
And I don't think that's inane.
Menckenstein said:
Herve may be a lousy businessman
Lousy?? Oh, he knows exactly what he is doing.
 

curry

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this would make a great plot for Damages' next season. Ron Jeremy could play Herve
 

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