Ideal setting for engaging story-driven cRPG

[SoupNazi]

That makes it worse. You're saying that he wasn't being sarcastic, is probably a bigot but he gets immunity because he is a long-time regular? Good to know.

I don't think anyone here cares if you're a bigot or not, no matter how long you've been here.

Are you a butthurt nigger?

 

[GarfunkeL]

In most situations you would be probably right - sarcasm. In case of JarlFrank... hmm... :D

That makes it worse. You're saying that he wasn't being sarcastic, is probably a bigot but he gets immunity because he is a long-time regular? Good to know.

Maybe this site is more to your liking: http://www.rpgwatch.com
You can even share your pain about the passing of your mother and they shall comfort you kindly. No harsh words or deviation from the politically correct-line is allowed over there, in the land of milk & honey. Go towards the light, brother!

 

[JarlFrank]

I just said that I wouldn't like being forced to play a nigger. Wasn't too bad in GTA SA but there it was done humorously and it wasn't an RPG where I should be able to relate to my character. When I create a character that I'm supposed to relate to, it really shouldn't be a black guy/girl because I don't like them.

And yes, I am a white supremacist, but if you're calling me a bigot for not wanting to play a nigger in an RPG, I'd advise you to never visit General Discussion

 

[Yggdrasil]

I think that a setting that could be interesting to both the masses and us would be something set in current times, but with a twist of conspiracy (not bush did 9/11). A more smaller-scaled type of scenario, put in an exotic locale to make things more interesting. An Iraqi insurgent group planning to take control of an important base (or whatever), with the quests given to you by the cell leader - acquiring weapons, ambushing convoys, stealing plans ... eventually you find out that the cell leader used you all to capture a nuclear rocket silo (or maybe just a briefcase of plutonium) and plans to fake a US attack on Iraq with the use of WMD to spark ultimate repricussions for the US... now you get to choose whether you allow him to do that and kill millions of your countrymen, or if you save them, or maybe use the WMD on another country... that would be pretty sweet. It would be something you could relate, with the potential for plot twists, and you can easily expand on the story: there can be relationships (no I don't mean romance) with the other cell members, suspicion thrown around, maybe a US Army soldier with whom you develop a sort of "nemesis" relationship i.e. he tries to stop all your missions, you somewhat find respect for each other or quite the opposite depending on your own choices and the way you go through missions.

A slightly related idea - how about Chesterton's The Man Who Was Thursday as basis for a game? In a modern setting (or maybe not?).

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

Excellent. Though it isn't much different to:

when you think about it...[/list]

 

[JarlFrank]

A slightly related idea - how about Chesterton's The Man Who Was Thursday as basis for a game? In a modern setting (or maybe not?).

I really like that book. But in a modern setting... nah. Fits much better into the late 19th/early 20th century. That said, a conspiracy or detective RPG set in that era could be really awesome. Set it entirely in London, make the player visit the dreadful slums of the eastend, involve him in upperclass society...

Could be good if made properly.

 

[alkeides]

Late 18th, early 19th century just before the Napoleonic Wars.

That's IMO the only historical era where you can creditably have adventurers of any gender or social class travelling around the continent. Casanova's memoirs are great source material here.

The Edwardian period just before WWI is similar but with a deal more "morality" inherited from the Vickies.

 

[Burning Bridges]

Wild West
Vernian ( e.g. Captain Nemo )
SciFi (serious SciFi or something funny like Futurama)
Prehistoric
Feudal Japan

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

In most situations you would be probably right - sarcasm. In case of JarlFrank... hmm... :D

That makes it worse. You're saying that he wasn't being sarcastic, is probably a bigot but he gets immunity because he is a long-time regular? Good to know.

No, he gets immunity because of the basic human right called freedom of speech.

Excellent. Though it isn't much different to:

when you think about it...[/list]

Warhammer/Warhammer40k-style Orks seem to be based on wild niggers.

 

[Azrael the cat]

Freedom of speech means freedom from legal or executive prosecution for one's speech. It doesn't mean freedom from other people using their freedom of speech to criticise you, or their ownership of private property to restrict your service, or their freedom of contract to drop their sponsorships or refuse to do business with you. They can do those things because that's a matter of their own freedoms - you can't compel someone to let you use their property (or website) or to do business with you (well, you can in Australia and many similar countries if it's discriminatory and so on - but we aren't basing our culture/constiution/nature on freedom of the individual either, so it isn't a contradiction for us: in Australia we've never had a right to 'freedom of speech', only a court-implied ruling that there must be a limited freedom of 'political' discussion about 16 years ago). I certainly wouldn't call 'freedom of speech' a basic human right - I greatly prefer the social/community focus of more left-leaning countries, including Australia, and the whole idea of a US-style 'freedom of speech' is fairly unpopular over here. However, I'd accept that it's important to the US culture, which is based fundamentally on the supremacy of the individual.

JarlFrank gets away with it on the Codex because it's a den of perversion that also has some discusison of computer games. The Codex has long been a low-censorship zone, with a freedom of, well, speech, hate-mongering, delusion, propaganda, deceit, hidden shock-porn linking and deliberate trolling. I wouldn't expect to get anywhere with 'how come this guy gets away with [x]' - even if [x] is 'genocide' or 'eating his human victims alive'. Just put someone on ignore if they're repeatedly irritating, or argue with them if you like. Warning: I don't like JF's views any more than you do, but scarily enough he is FAR from the worst on the site - you might want to set 'ignore' functions for Jim Profit and Nomask in advance.

 

[SoupNazi]

Jim Profit was banned, BRO.

 

[Jim Cojones]

I just said that I wouldn't like being forced to play a nigger. Wasn't too bad in GTA SA but there it was done humorously and it wasn't an RPG where I should be able to relate to my character. When I create a character that I'm supposed to relate to, it really shouldn't be a black guy/girl because I don't like them.

Hi, Melirind.

 

[Brotherman Bill]

I certainly wouldn't call 'freedom of speech' a basic human right -

 

[Yggdrasil]

A slightly related idea - how about Chesterton's The Man Who Was Thursday as basis for a game? In a modern setting (or maybe not?).

I really like that book. But in a modern setting... nah. Fits much better into the late 19th/early 20th century. That said, a conspiracy or detective RPG set in that era could be really awesome. Set it entirely in London, make the player visit the dreadful slums of the eastend, involve him in upperclass society...

Could be good if made properly.

At least the Codexers apparently are going to like if it's made in the original Victorian/Edwardian setting.
:tophat: :monocole:

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

Australia can't into civilization.

 

[denizsi]

Anyone read Fatherland?

An eerie, detailed alternate history serves as the backdrop for this otherwise conventional crime thriller. The setting is Berlin, 1964, some 20 years after the Third Reich's victory in WW II. Germany and the U.S., the world's two superpowers, find themselves in a cold war resulting from a nuclear stalemate; but U.S. President Joseph P. Kennedy is soon to visit Berlin for an historic summit meeting with Hitler, clearing the way for detente. Meanwhile, cynical police detective Xavier March investigates the drowning of Josef Buhler, former state secretary in the General Government. When the Gestapo takes over the case--ruling it suicide--March continues his investigation at the risk of his life, uncovering a deadly conspiracy at the highest levels of the Reich. With the help of American reporter Charlotte Maguire, he finds hard evidence of the wartime extermination of Europe's Jews, a secret that Buhler and his colleagues have been murdered to protect.

I believe they also made a movie out of that book or at least I've seen a movie with a very similar plot.

 

[Turisas]

Yeah http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109779/

TV movie tho so don't expect anything spectacular.

 

[denizsi]

What makes Mass Effect not 'proper' sci fi? The fact that you didn't like it?

It's fantasy - you have unexplained and convenient FTL, you have complete stealth fields, you have magic (the mass effect itself), basically. It's like Star Wars - fantasy in space - not science fiction.

PKD was a fantasy writer then.

 

[Azrael the cat]

Jim Profit was banned, BRO.

Wait - when was Jim Profit banned? What for? This is what I get for never visiting GD.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

In most situations you would be probably right - sarcasm. In case of JarlFrank... hmm... :D

That makes it worse. You're saying that he wasn't being sarcastic, is probably a bigot but he gets immunity because he is a long-time regular? Good to know.

He gets immunity because no one gives a fuck about the subject.

plus, we're all BROgots here. This is a place where pretend-PC isn't constantly grabbing you by the balls. Release the burning cross inside your heart!

 

[Ruprekt]

I still can't get grim fandago working on this pc

 

[Turisas]

I mean, seriously, try to imagine a cRPG with the atmosphere and soundtrack of GF. Poorly illuminated bars with jazz and gangsters-like figures smoking cigars, casinos, realistic attributes and weapons like Fallout, non-linear structure... I really can't think about anything that could possibly be better than this for my ideal cRPG.

You mean like New Vegas?

 

[commie]

I still can't get grim fandago working on this pc

Buy yourself an oldie PC (2005 or older) as that was the last year of Win 98 support for drivers. They are giving them away practically. I still have a P4 from 2002 and it's great for all those Win 95/98 games that don't work in any other way, and also for those that require ancient versions of quicktime(old FMV adventures).

 

[mondblut]

I wouldn't play a game where I'm forced to be a nigger.
If there was a small but superior tribe of whites, then I'd play it.

Better yet, a classic 80s style dungeon crawling about the party of white adventurers clearing out a continent of nigger, hobnigger and niggeroid hordes. Instant win!

 

[analt]

a game that features you playing one of hitler s helpers would be awesome. it would begin with character generation somewhere in 1920 where you help adolf seize power and win street battles with the communists. later on you can become a jew-hunter and obviously help cleansing germany and the occupied terriorities of the kikes + race traitors like schindler or stauffenberg.

it would be a party based game with turnbased combat (mind you the twist being that combat isnt about winning .... but to make sure as few as possible enemies get away alife. i.e. its about hunting down your prey and making sure noone escapes ) but the emphasis would be on dialogue/torture.

and just as soon as the game might get too repeative the war is over and the 2nd half of the game switches the setting to south america where you are now the hunted, trying to keep the mossad away from you and your friends. imagine playing in a party with Hans-Ulrich Rudel (fighter) and Dr. Mengele (Healer), fighting the jews in the streets of buenos aires. add sex cards for fucking chicks in occupied territories and we have a winner RPG worthy of the codex.

Not only is this the most awesome ever, but it gives me an idea for another one ... the first ever running-away RPG, where you play a Jew in the occupied terri-- er, lands of WWII and basically just try to not get killed. You are always moving east, trying to stay ahead of the Gestapo while not really excited about heading for Russia, hopping trains, forging papers, bullshitting people and masquerading as a German soldier, fucking German women and laughing to yourself about it, looting and hiding and lying and taking off like this rakish survivor-type I remember seeing on TV. You might fight some and do some sabotage and shit like that, but the main thing is survival and survival is mostly just not staying put. The opposite of current RPGs where you want to turn over every rock; this one would be more simulation-like and not like solve-the-puzzle-to-get-through-the-gate but more sandboxy where you might have random or procedurally generated areas and a lot of things that would be smartest to avoid and some kind of either timer-based or encounter based escalation system where you would eventually get caught if you stuck around long enough for people to get suspicious.

For fictional settings, I say Dune and Riverworld. Riverworld has going for it that its one giant river valley all the way around the planet = nice linear travel path without bogus rationalization, an obvious end goal, and the ability -- indeed, necessity -- to throw in everything plus the kitchen sink, because all of human history is living there simultaneously, purposely mixed together, with various levels of tech/resources from Stone Age and up, with hints of super-science just over the horizon.

Plus Barsoom. Come on, fuckers. Make a Mars game for real. The Dark Sun prequel deserves its game.