baby arm said:
Todd's always been better than Pete at PR. Makes me wonder why they've stuck with Pete for so long. Must be his super duper backrubs.
He photographs good.
BethesdaLove said:
3. Fucklivion - guess what?... and from what ive seen in the vids, its crap
Clever.
And what's nice about all that is that you, by default, connect all the dots. When you're designing content, you know these things are there, so you can reference them. It feels tighter than if you sat down and designed a series of specific quests first. I'm inspecting set pieces, like, "Oh, this would be a really cool quest," and then we fit it into the environment.
Since when is it an achievement if you do something not completly retarded? Every dev does the world first ... And even if quest are done before the completition of all the world docs, they dont have to be crap and unfitting. Its just that beth creates games fot mentally challenged minors.
Here's strawman. Here's you attacking strawman. Run, strawman, run!
Todd: "Here's how we do things. We create the world, then put quests in it. Alot of other companies do it differently."
BL: "No you fucking idiot! That's not an achievement!"
Todd: "I never..."
BL: "Shutup Toddler! Oooh good for you! You're not doing something retarded! Big fucking whoop!"
Todd: "Anyways, we design a quest, then see how we can fit it..."
BL: "And another thing! The quests don't have to be stupid!"
Todd: "Uh..."
BL: "If quests are done first they don't have to suck!"
Todd: "I never said tha..."
BL: "You make stupid game for stupid retarded minors! Stupidhead!"
Bullshit, i dont need nostalgia to see that fucklivion sucks. I dont compare it to fallout. I just say that fucklivion sucks.
Also what retard sees "gaming journalism reviewers" as a reference?... wtf, those retards nowadays are dropouts from school and cant write for shit.
Todd: "Continuing on..."
BL: "Oblivion? More like Fucklivion! It sucks! Don't need nostalgia to see that!"
Todd: "Riiiight... Anyways, you can go back and look at those old reviews..."
BL: "You smelly pineapple porridge brain head! You dummy duck ass! Only retards see gaming journalists as a reference!"
Todd: "I... uh... said that to illustrate how perceptions have..."
BL: "No! You crazy cookie dildo breath! You slimy ugly hairball nerfish doofbag ballchin dweebenheimer!"
Todd: "..."
fuck this shit, do i have to link the thread with blantant lies about oblivion here...
Chefe: "Instead of instinctively taking what I wrote out of context, did you bother to actually read it?"
BL: "Don't make me insult you like I insulted Todd!
Chefe: "Point taken."
They. Aren't. Promising. The. Crazy. Amount. Of. Stuff. That...
Oh, damnit to hell. You won't listen anyways.
I dont give a shit about him or his retarded audience... I want fallout 3. And because of this Beth should burn to the ground! THIS IS CODEX!
Todd: "We're spending all this money and time to make a game that we want to..."
BL: "Shutup you foolish nincompoop baddie daddy! You greasy geezer mousketeer dograper! I don't care about you or what you like or what you do or who you make the game for!"
Todd: "Then why..."
BL: "Make Fallout 3 for me because I HATE YOU! I LOATHE YOU! I WANT TO THROW ABORTED FETUSES AT YOUR FACE! I WANT TO RAPE YOUR FAMILY, MUTILATE YOUR PETS, AND BURN YOU HOUSE TO THE GROUND!"
Todd: "We're... uh... making a... video game."
BL: "THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! RUN CHICKEN LITTLE! THE SKY IS BETHESDA AND IT'S GOING TO STRAP YOU UP TO A BURNING CROSS OF ACID AND SHOOT METEORS AT YOUR DICK!"
Todd: "... moving on."
... fuck himself in the eye.
You must be referring to the massive size of my cock.
Claw said:
Chefe said:
Instead of reading the excerpt, read the whole thing.
Only if you post it here.
There's a link at the end of the summary which directs you to the full review. It's not hard to miss, unless you didn't read the summary either, or are incredibly obtuse.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3 ... ector_.php
With Bethesda, there is a pattern of things sounding better than they end up being.
I believe that's a case with every gaming company. The trick is, as I mentioned, to look past the hype.
So you learned nothing. It's a cheap, paper-thin argument. You know what sucks? Monkey Island. Everyone who thinks otherwise is just nostalgic, lol!
When Fallout came out, I played it once. Later I played Fallout 2, once. Then I didn't play them for almost a decade. And then, when someone told me about a sequel being in the works, I decided to replay them, and still found them great, graphics notwithstanding.
Liking a game from the nineties after not playing it or even thinking about it for seven or eight years is a clear sign of nostalgia, not quality!
I didn't say that Fallout was a bad game. Nor did Todd, Gamasutra, or anyone else with at least half a brain. Far from learning nothing, I learned that nostalgia can bestow a mythical status upon something to make it seem greater than it really was at the time. That's not to say it wasn't great, or that it should be taken out of context with it's own time, or that it cannot be picked up by someone today and enjoyed like it was when it first came out. What it is saying is that you're turning the game into something it is not; an almost sublime and perfect status that can never be achieved.
Of course, no one is stopping you from believing that. After all, the Christians have been doing it for two thousand years. But unlike that group, you shouldn't be so quick to crucify anyone who thinks differently, unless you have a valid reason (or a really funny one). Otherwise these attacks are inane and pointless and the poor strawman is in witness protection.
Too bad they bought an existing franchise and thus attracted an audience that enjoyed those games.
How many of us would make a franchise in our own vision, and the vision of those who agree with us, if we had the opportunity? I've had dreams about taking over the Zelda franchise and deliver a proper sequel to the first two games. It would be difficult, it would do away with alot of the nonsense that ALTTP brought in, it would make the player feel alone and scared in a harsh world. I would, however, make it third person like OOT and TP. Would it be exactly like the first two? No, of course not. Would those rabid Nintendo fanboys try to crucify me? Of course. Would the world get an amazing fucking game and view the world of Hyrule in a different and new light? I believe so.
