Yes. A fucking Pentecostal.
http://horizonzerodawn.wikia.com/wiki/Travis_Tate
But you did not get my point. The concept of HADES is simply retarded.
Anyone would be happy to be able to reborn life after an apocalypse and there is no rational reason which can justify the implementation of some AI purposed to wipe out entire life in case life is not respecting a certain criteria. Take note that Hades purpose was to kill humans and not the wild fauna.
What is the criteria which can say that the current human life forms must be eradicated? There is no such criteria. There cannot be such a criteria. As such the villain, the story and basically the entire narrative are shit.
Questions?
Again, did you play the same game I did? Hades was built to destroy the fauna and flora in case the environment was NOT SUITABLE for human life. So that everything could start over. Hades would kick in before human life because the terraforming process went wrong.
If human life already existed, it would not activate.
HADES was one of a suite of nine subordinate functions under the control of GAIA as part of Project Zero Dawn. Should GAIA's terraforming efforts prove unsuccessful with regard to producing an environment suitable for sustaining life, HADES' function was to reverse the work done, reverting the planet to its previous lifeless, sterile state so that GAIA could engage in another attempt. In the process, any life that was introduced during the terraforming attempt would be exterminated.
HADES' last resort failsafe function intrinsically meant that it only acted if required. Since GAIA's first terraforming attempt was successful, HADES was never required, and thus remained inactive.
Ok. My mistake. Please answer the following questions:
1) HADES has no issues killing humans. Shouldn't the AI acknowledge that he has no purpose once human life is encountered? It seems like the most basic failsafe logic you put in any AI of that kind.
Yes, it should. Those were likely removed by the h4xx0r beam.
2) Considering that the world ended exactly because of AIs going rogue who would design and implement an AI who would destroy the world?
Someone who realised it's a pretty damn efficient way of stripping a planet of hostile lifeforms, just build more self-replicating bots. Plus the typical sc-fi trope of "but THIS time we will be able to control it, promise"
3) Why should someone design a subsystem which could take over the main system? Who is so retard? Maybe only Elisabet Sobek ... the most intelligent and formidable woman in the world.
Someone who is smart enough to realise that if it couldn't take over the main system, the main system (GAIA), being a self-aware AI, would probably want to protect its creation of abominations, much like the Xenomorph queen in Aliens and thus never permit HADES to take over voluntarily.
4) Why starting from a blank state is better than correcting something? How do you define that a terraforming effort was unsuccessful? Terraforming is not really a cheap operation.
Because ecosystems are complex and chaotic, who knows if it's even possible to correct it? What we DO know is, the one we had on Earth, works.
5) Let's say you need 500 years to recreate Earth atmosphere, why would someone destroy Earth atmosphere and then wait another 500 years instead of trying to control or clean up what exists? Each hundred years increases the risk of failure for the entire House of Cards. Real AIs should adapt to existing conditions and don't try to destroy reality in order to match their programming. If an AI can only proceed from a specific set of initial conditions then that AI is a failure and definitely not suited for terraforming or any other complex tasks. Creating a second AI to correct the first AI is simply stupid. By doing it you just multiply the complexity of the entire system by two and you are basically asking for something to blow up in your face. I mean that's what I'm thinking ... but I'm not Elisabet Sobek.
The atmosphere isn't destroyed, only the
biosphere meaning the life. There would be changes to the atmosphere as a result of course, but there would be no humans to nuke everything to shit and cause more damage, so subsequent retries would probably be much quicker than the first one.
Also, Every evul AI in every dystopian sci-fi ever, tries to destroy the world. It's a given at this point.
6) How come Hades is able to fly? If that prick was able to fly then a full AI like Gaia should be in orbit.
This is your first good point. The AI should be able to do whatever its host robot body can, of course, but as for flying like a disembodied space ghost, that scene really didn't sit well with me either. I've got nothing.
7) How come Hades is expert in manipulating humans? He was not designed to ever deal with them.
It was programmed to learn and adapt. Google bots are already manipulating people by studying their behavior as we speak. In 50 years from now, how much more advanced will that shit be? Nevermind however many centuries that thing has been dormant.
8) How come Hades was able to write viruses in order to corrupt Gaia? His primary function was not that. I know, real AIs can shit rainbows without any explanations when the plot requires rainbows.
Da fuck? That WAS its primary function. Read your own question 3 again. Slowly. It was designed to override GAIA and activate Faro killbots.
9) If someone is capable of modifying an AI in such a manner then that *someone* is capable of creating it own AI and it doesn't need HADES for anything.
Says who? That makes no sense. When IRL hackers hack something, do they create their own version? No.
What I'm trying to say is that there is no rational reason for HADES existence. Nobody would be so stupid to create this type of AI. And whoever is capable of modding HADES should be capable of creating his own evil AI. It makes no sense.
Wrong. It's much easier to hack a computer than to build a new one. Especially in a post-apocalyptic wasteland where there are no high-tech industries.
Hades is pivotal to the main story and everything crumbles once you realize that his existence doesn't make sense. Hades is just a stupid plot device.
Wrong. Its existence does make sense in the context of the game world, and also the plot could still work (with minor changes) if it wasn't there.
Does this makes sense to you?
Yes.
Look, if you want to find things wrong with the story, they are definitely there. Long before Hades, there aere much more fundamental issues, some of which I have mentioned in this same thread. Hades is the least of its problems.
Firstly, pure math. We don't know how long these things take to self replicate, but we do know that it would pretty much halve with every generation. Thus, pretty damn soon the entire planet would be one crawling mess of robots. I punched some rough numbers into Excel, and basically my earlier post on the subject was wrong. If the robots take a week to replicate, within 20 generations, or around 5 months, you'd have 5 million robots. A month later, you would have more than 80 million and by 7 months, you'd have more than a billion. This does make the year and a half plus timeline of PZD seem a little ridiculous. In a year's time there would be 22 quadrillion robots (if the resources existed to build them, which it wouldn't).
Sure, the robots wouldn't be replicating full time, they would also be liquidizing dolphins and fighting, but it's also really unlikely that their replication would take a full week so let's call it even.
Second, why would the smartest man in the universe and the biggest evul white male embodiment of corporate greed, SPECIFICALLY make his engineers not make a backdoor into his killbots' OS? His main clients are big corporations and armies. Exactly the kind of customer who wants a secret backdoor into every goddamn thing, plus being a greedy fucking white heterosexual male, he would want to take control for his own needs. Did he never see any movie ever made about rogue AI? Makes no sense in the context of the story.
Third: Why would this same evul white male suddenly have a moment of conscience, realise he made a terrible mistake by killing billions of innocent people, and attempt to make up for it by killing even more innocent people (the alphas) and doom the rest of humanity to extinction as far as he's concerned?
Then: in the context of HOW THE REAL WORLD WORKS:
There would not be stronk, independent fierce wombyn running around being warriors. There just wouldn't. There is no social support system for it and they would be insta-slaughtered. Feminism is a luxury afforded by modern Western living standards and technology. It goes away immediately if those things go away, and all of humanity's knowledge was lost, thus there would be no silly ideas like this floating around, people would just do what they were naturally good at. And they would not be buddy-buddy with someone who looks completely different from 99.99% of the tribe by having jet black skin, while at the same time shunning a baby because it has an unknown mother. There is no enlightened Twitter mob to explain how differences between people are social constructs, people will behave according to their instincts in a survival situation.
You would not be able to kill 20 meter tall death machines, with wooden fucking arrows. And they would not be equipped with the worst heatsinks in the universe, that can't even cool down the death machine in the middle of a blizzard.
Etc.
Many issues with this game/setting/story, but Hades is not a big one.