Help from ye old schoolers

[Andhaira]

Jasede, you haven't played EOB2?? LoL was inspired by EOB2 and even uses much of the same interface/style. It WAS going to be EPB3 until Westwood lost the rights.

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

I can't wait to play Eye of the Beholder 2 for the first time.

Is it worth playing 1 first to import the party?

The two games are very similar UI wise, so there is no reason not to play number 1. It is a great game itself. There is no real advantage to importing your party, unless you want completion.

 

[Elwro]

No real advantage? Some of the named weapons got transformed to +afew weapons, which were highly useful. (I also liked the first part of the game more than the 2nd, but it could be because I was never able to finish EoB2.)

 

[mondblut]

Sounds good and looks good from what I've seen in a quick search. Is drawing maps mandatory to have a good playtime?

No, it has automapping I believe.

 

[Mortmal]

really worth it to play EOB 1 before, theres no reason to not play it, it was a fantastic game . The only one you could skip is eye of beholder 3, its not that bad either, but it was a disapointment compared to 2 . Next to get is land of lore , wich is still very pretty.

 

[Elwro]

EoB3 is a disappointment mainly because the combat / puzzle ratio is WAY too high and any form of character advancement is very rare, since you're high level already. And too many areas with quickly respawning enemies. EoB1 is just fantastic for an archetypical AD&D dungeon crawler.

Come on, just look at this:

Eye of the Beholder 1 intro

The same with some gameplay

:tearofoldschooljoy:

 

[Frau Bishop]

No, it has automapping I believe.

Terrific!
Oh, and I read you can create 8 characters for your party. Do you have to play with full force or can you set up a group of elite crawlers?
Wonder how this town tax will work out.
I'm so excited, I'm gonna play a new RPG.

 

[Jasede]

Very obscure question, but does the Amiga version support importing characters from EotB 1 to EotB 2? I always prefer the Amiga versions.

Edit: You know, that reminds me, I need to play Black Crypt for the first time, too. And I never tried the Amiga version of Dungeon Master either.

Edit 2: I really wish I still had the A500 I used to own. Beautiful machine. I accidentally formatted it completely as a kid and didn't know how to reinstall the workbench. We threw it away.

Edit 3: Wow, I never managed to find a kickstart as quickly as today. Amiga music is the shit.

 

[Frau Bishop]

Edit 2: I really wish I still had the A500 I used to own. Beautiful machine. I accidentally formatted it completely as a kid and didn't know how to reinstall the workbench. We threw it away.

Wut? Why didn't you just boot from disc like anyone else without hdd?

 

[Jasede]

I was a kid. We couldn't figure that out. I'm going to spend ~1000 Euro one of these days to buy an Amiga 500 in pristine condition.

 

[Frau Bishop]

I bought one some years ago for about 50 Euro, lots of old discs (about 20% still worked) and stuff included. I have to say.. it wasn't the same experience. Fucking around with the OS was annoying and the mouse felt like cursed. Compared to a C64 retro experience it was actually not so great.

 

[Jasede]

Huh. Maybe it was just better in my memory. The Workbench is kinda clunky and the mouse is awful, but the games... the games were so good.

Mainly I'd like to hear all my favorite Amiga games music again the way it was intended to sound like.

And report on your retro C64 experience, I'm curious! I never had a C64.

 

[Frau Bishop]

Ah, don't know what to say. Sitting in front of a C64 after long years of absence just felt great, it smelled right, the keyboard was oldschool-good and the sound of a 1541 drive is like music anyway. No, really.
Kind of revisiting the church you attendend in your childhood, or something like a Erich Honecker exhibition in your case.
Good luck in finding a similar happy place with the A500, probably it just boils down to what we liked when we were young.

Gives me the creeps to think about what the gaming youngsters of 2009 have to relate to once they get a midlife crisis.

 

[Micmu]

just felt great, it smelled right, the keyboard was oldschool-good

C64 was kickass, especially the first version, fat rounded one in dark gray color. I laughed at friends with their crappy rubbery ZX spectrums.
I still can't believe I threw mine away years ago.

sound of a 1541 drive is like music anyway. No, really.

I had a 1541-II drive, holy SHIT was this thing loud! I honestly thought it's punching holes through a floppy.

 

[MetalCraze]

ZX Spectrums at least didn't have ugly rectangular pixels. Also my ZX Spectrum was custom-built (no rubber keys, but plastic ones, and it was also grey) and it was awesome (and loaded from tape, none of that next-gen diskette bullshit). But it was collecting dust and 10 years ago or so my parents gave it away to my nephew and he broke it

 

[mondblut]

No, it has automapping I believe.

Terrific!
Oh, and I read you can create 8 characters for your party. Do you have to play with full force or can you set up a group of elite crawlers?
Wonder how this town tax will work out.
I'm so excited, I'm gonna play a new RPG.

You can play with one character if you want, but the encounters are fairly merciless, and facing does matter, so you'd want several to cover one another's back.

 

[Zomg]

Tried to replay LoL recently; it is butt. I had a high opinion of it based on my original play, but in retrospect it got me on high 1993ish production values. It's just an unbelievably annoying game with constant pointless nonsense out of nowhere (the Xeob and the Knowle - what) and weirdo furry Legend-grade fantasy.

 

[Mortmal]

Very obscure question, but does the Amiga version support importing characters from EotB 1 to EotB 2? I always prefer the Amiga versions.

Edit: You know, that reminds me, I need to play Black Crypt for the first time, too. And I never tried the Amiga version of Dungeon Master either.

Edit 2: I really wish I still had the A500 I used to own. Beautiful machine. I accidentally formatted it completely as a kid and didn't know how to reinstall the workbench. We threw it away.

Edit 3: Wow, I never managed to find a kickstart as quickly as today. Amiga music is the shit.

Yes you could export EOB1 character to EOB2 with the amiga version , i used to play it with floppy . I prefer too the amiga version, part sentimental value and part cause it always feel superior to the pc , much more colorful,and superior music and ambients.
Now i am forced to play amiga games on winUAE, i still have my old amiga , its in pristine condition, except the plastic aged, except the drive dont work anymore ... either that or the floppy disks gets unreadable after decades. Btw anyone knows the life span of a floppy disk ?
I wouldnt pay 1000 euros to get another one, wish i knew how to repair that internal drive.
You speak of installing the workbench , did you have an hardrive with your A500 ? those were ultra expensive , well at least in france. I dont remember to have to install anything on amiga.

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

Very obscure question, but does the Amiga version support importing characters from EotB 1 to EotB 2? I always prefer the Amiga versions.

Edit: You know, that reminds me, I need to play Black Crypt for the first time, too. And I never tried the Amiga version of Dungeon Master either.

Edit 2: I really wish I still had the A500 I used to own. Beautiful machine. I accidentally formatted it completely as a kid and didn't know how to reinstall the workbench. We threw it away.

Edit 3: Wow, I never managed to find a kickstart as quickly as today. Amiga music is the shit.

Yes you could export EOB1 character to EOB2 with the amiga version , i used to play it with floppy . I prefer too the amiga version, part sentimental value and part cause it always feel superior to the pc , much more colorful,and superior music and ambients.
Now i am forced to play amiga games on winUAE, i still have my old amiga , its in pristine condition, except the plastic aged, except the drive dont work anymore ... either that or the floppy disks gets unreadable after decades. Btw anyone knows the life span of a floppy disk ?
I wouldnt pay 1000 euros to get another one, wish i knew how to repair that internal drive.
You speak of installing the workbench , did you have an hardrive with your A500 ? those were ultra expensive , well at least in france. I dont remember to have to install anything on amiga.

Amiga disks are hopeless. They corrupt easily and quickly, so don't write off your floppy drive just yet.

In comparison, every one of my C64 games works! Amiga, I have less than half that load (all stored with anal precision) and of those, I wonder if some of them with have the dreaded "black screen of death" due to corruption later in the game.

 

[Jasede]

I think I mainly like Lands of Lore because it looks really, really good. And it does, doesn't it? I don't know a prettier 320x240 game. *graphics whore*

Speaking of C64, I want one too now. That's an era I 100% missed out on. Just look at this stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fiul1Xu9wbg

These drums are just perfect.

 

[MetalCraze]

I think I mainly like Lands of Lore because it looks really, really good. And it does, doesn't it? I don't know a prettier 320x240 game. *graphics whore*

That is true. Graphics supposed to be much more advanced after like 15 years and yet only 2D games have such awesome panoramas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ2k5-viJ78&
At 1:25 there is a true fantasy area.

 

[mondblut]

I think I mainly like Lands of Lore because it looks really, really good. And it does, doesn't it? I don't know a prettier 320x240 game. *graphics whore*

Ishar 2 and 3.

And it's 320x200.

 

[Jasede]

I lived a lie all these years?

 

[JarlFrank]

Damn, DOS games looked fucking GORGEOUS. Wonderful art design and hand-painted colourful graphics. Lovely. 99% of modern games can't even remotely reach the love for detail and the diversity those games had back then. Damn, I wish someone would finally make a 2D game again.

 

[Luzur]

I was a kid. We couldn't figure that out. I'm going to spend ~1000 Euro one of these days to buy an Amiga 500 in pristine condition.

heh, i found a fully boxed and 2 spares on the local dump some months ago.

also 3 C64's and a PET computer was "rescued" from there last September.

so i am pretty sure you dotn have to pay 1000 euroes for one.