Grimoire gameplay and hints thread

[Lady_Error]

Which races have special attacks? I know Drakes have one, Aeorb(?) mindflay and one of snake races has bile spitting or something.

 

[Baff]

Keep in mind that your Templar will be a Durendil and so have crap armor for quite a while.

I'll try to have a high roll for Wolfin Templar and see if it goes through. Durendil is not the best choice.

Ahh, right. My cleric is wolfin and I didn't want any duplicate races.

 

[YES!]

I don't think Metabolism determines how fast you use up vitality. There is definitely some sort of multiplier that makes it faster to regain (mana and vit) the more of it you have. So if you are drained of vit it takes a lot longer to get that first 25% back then the last 75%, making it worthwhile to rest early and often. But I want to not rest early and often so need to figure out what keeps vitality from going down fast or recover faster. It was stated as a fact by the guy who posted the spreadsheets that strength and con impact how much vit per level, but what determines its usage rate and recover rate?

 

[Lord Andre]

BTW, I've noticed magic missile hitting a second target after the first one is killed. Anyone got a lock on how it works? I'm thinking each power level adds a new missile instead of making the first one stronger...sort of like d&d...

My only regret is that I didn't put more speed on my casters. I assume that's what they need to get their turn first so I can alpha strike boss-y fights.

I think there may be a spellcasting attribute the equivalent of speed. I know my fastest character attacks first with a weapon, but last with a spell.

I don't see which stat would match that... Maybe each action has a speed factor that combines with the stat to determine turn. I know my sage when stabbing with a dagger also goes faster than if she had cast a spell.

 

[YES!]

Which races have special attacks? I know Drakes have one, Aeorb(?) mindflay and one of snake races has bile spitting or something.

Drakes have fire breath. Lions have some sort of roar ability I've never tried (fear?).

 

[Baff]

Which races have special attacks? I know Drakes have one, Aeorb(?) mindflay and one of snake races has bile spitting or something.

Drakes have fire breath. Lions have some sort of roar ability I've never tried (fear?).

Dread

Vamphyr has charm

 

[Lady_Error]

It was stated as a fact by the guy who posted the spreadsheets that strength and con impact how much vit per level, but what determines its usage rate and recover rate?

The MET stat itself?

 

[YES!]

BTW, I've noticed magic missile hitting a second target after the first one is killed. Anyone got a lock on how it works? I'm thinking each power level adds a new missile instead of making the first one stronger...sort of like d&d...

My only regret is that I didn't put more speed on my casters. I assume that's what they need to get their turn first so I can alpha strike boss-y fights.

I think there may be a spellcasting attribute the equivalent of speed. I know my fastest character attacks first with a weapon, but last with a spell.

I don't see which stat would match that... Maybe each action has a speed factor that combines with the stat to determine turn. I know my sage when stabbing with a dagger also goes faster than if she had cast a spell.

I think it is skill level. I noticed my bard's sleep go from ST to aoe with higher skill. And the power level doesn't add more missiles at least for up to the mid levels. I got the Rose fairy lady and hers hit all members of a group and her skill in sorcery was wicked high so I'm guessing it has to do with skill level. Its just a guess though.

 

[Lady_Error]

Vamphyr has charm

That one is apparently overpowered against human enemies, eg. against Mordecai. So maybe having 50% during the day is worth it for the Vamphyr. Still seems like a lot of hassle.

 

[YES!]

It was stated as a fact by the guy who posted the spreadsheets that strength and con impact how much vit per level, but what determines its usage rate and recover rate?

The MET stat itself?

I don't think so. I started a new game and two warriors with a lot of bonus attributes to spend. I went all in met with one and all in FEL with the other and there was no difference in vit usage or recovery I could see. I should have made 8 of the same to test better but I stayed up all night playing the game and I'm lazy at testing.

This game is great. It would be a lot better with the chardev of Frayed Knights as this is too basic to shine, but since MMX I have needed something new and meaty content wise like this. S&S scratched the itch a little, and this is really getting the spot nice and good.

 

[Lord Andre]

BTW, some info from my experience with lethal blow.

When the ranger does enough damage to bring the enemy down to 10-15% life, the enemy is like "I made it." and then he dies. It happens enough to be noticeable and I pumped it up to only 20 with some saved points. From there, every time it hits, it gets +1. So if you get it going, it will pay for itself pretty fast.

 

[YES!]

Vamphyr has charm

That one is apparently overpowered against human enemies, eg. against Mordecai. So maybe having 50% during the day is worth it for the Vamphyr. Still seems like a lot of hassle.

You can get the charm spell easily and early, and I got the bard charm instrument early too. I don't see a need for charm great enough to get a class just for it though.

 

[mondblut]

I'll try to have a high roll for Wolfin Templar and see if it goes through. Durendil is not the best choice.

Nobody but Durendil can be templars out of the box. They need 60 points and have a roll modifier of x2.

As a furry you'll need a bonus of 75 and they have no modifier. Good luck rolling that

(they make kickass rangers tho)

 

[buru5]

People are saying to leave 2 slots open for recruitable NPCs. Is this mandatory for game completion? What do you miss out on if you don't recruit them?

 

[Haba]

People are saying to leave 2 slots open for recruitable NPCs. Is this mandatory for game completion? What do you miss out on if you don't recruit them?

They are game breakingly OP.

 

[Lady_Error]

I rolled 32 points for a Wolfin and that wasn't enough to choose a Templar. So yeah, I can confirm.

A Bard is also surprisingly difficult to roll, especially a slow one. SPD 40 is probably the lowest you can get for them.

 

[Joined on the 4th of July]

Can you have a full NPC party?

Spoiler

I just beat a bit harder fight and everyone's dead except Little Rosy.

 

[Lord Andre]

I rolled 32 points for a Wolfin and that wasn't enough to choose a Templar. So yeah, I can confirm.

A Bard is also surprisingly difficult to roll, especially a slow one. SPD 40 is probably the lowest you can get for them.

Isn't templar one of the 4 classes that you can only get later ?

 

[Lady_Error]

Isn't templar one of the 4 classes that you can only get later ?

People are saying a Durendil can roll it from the start, but they have gear restrictions or something.

 

[Lord Andre]

Isn't templar one of the 4 classes that you can only get later ?

People are saying a Durendil can roll it from the start, but they have gear restrictions or something.

I think in the discussion they confused templar with metalsmith which is quite easy to get with durendil but a bad choice IMO.

 

[King Crispy]

Not sure if already mentioned but there's a friendly merchant in the Village of Crowl, which is very close to the starting location in Sanctuary, if you chose that one. He's an armorer and sells weapons, and his shop, afaict, is completely safe to rest in. So he makes an excellent early base of operations.

Remember to:

- Choose whichever of your characters has the highest Barter skill to handle all transactions

- Right-click on the character's talk icon to get a pop-up with all possible options including BUY and SELL

- Do NOT sell anything if you have any doubts whether you'll need it or not later

Hope this helps someone.

 

[Lady_Error]

I think in the discussion they confused templar with metalsmith which is quite easy to get with durendil but a bad choice IMO.

I don't think so....

Durendil Templar requires only 30points, i already made one.

Nobody but Durendil can be templars out of the box. They need 60 points and have a roll modifier of x2.

 

[Lady_Error]

Nobody but Durendil can be templars out of the box. They need 60 points and have a roll modifier of x2.

Do you have a list of race/class combinations that get the x2 points modifier?

 

[Lord Andre]

I think in the discussion they confused templar with metalsmith which is quite easy to get with durendil but a bad choice IMO.

I don't think so....

Durendil Templar requires only 30points, i already made one.

Nobody but Durendil can be templars out of the box. They need 60 points and have a roll modifier of x2.

I've never heard of this x2 modifier. I just checked and on a roll of 9 durendil can't get metalsmith anymore. He must roll a 10. If the x2 existed, a 9 would've been sufficient.

 

[Lord Andre]

Remember the game planner https://www.dropbox.com/s/s65dktw1by2s769/Grimoire Planner.xlsx?dl=0 from the superdemo.

I haven't seen anything in the full game that contradicts it.