Read and get educated just how atrociously terrible and utterly retardly nonsensical the story in FO 3 is:
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=27085
You can circlejerk all you want, but the selectively blind nitpicking for plotholess and errors doesn't prove anything about Fallout 3 not being a good game - and it certainly not worse than F2 in this regard, so the real problem with the game may be everything apart from story/dialogs got better. Even if we agree that the story is bad (which is not, in some regards it surpasses FNV and in many - F2) it's not enough to condemn Fallout 3 as not a very good game. Its atmosphere, world connectivity, variety, sheer size, visuals and sound - all of this is top-notch. It's not a masterpiece Fallout New Vegas is, but it's still up there among the best games ever made.
Fallout 3 is a shit game. If any of you think otherwise then go do us all a favor and win Darwin award for this year.
It has shit story, shit gameplay mechanics, shit graphics (compare to Crysis or Far Cry 2), shit music, shit characters, shit world, shits on lore, treats adults like kindergarden and is just plain boring.
I am playing Gothic 2 right now and that game has no fucking loadings between locations. A game from 2000. And it's 2016 and those asshats from Bethesda still clinge to their pathetic engine and get away with it.
*embarrassingstop embarassing yourself
So much maximalism in there. You see too flawed things and justify the fact you liked one by pretending to have some objective evalutation. No middle-ground, it's either shit or masterpiece, right? Can you see the logic in the fact that FNV, modded Fallout 3, is considered masterpiece even though most of its systems are copypasted from FO3, some additions are useless and in some regards its worse? There was still some magic that turned a turd into a cake? What is it, dialogue and story?
Especially notable with comparing FO2 and FO3 in regards of story. FO3 is *less* broken in that regard. When in your defense of FO2 you deny obvious things like FO3 having more consistent tone and better exploration. Dumb articles nitpicking character motivations and plotholes prove nothing as, again, FO2 had more of those. Do you remember it had magical shaman sending you vision as a part of main quest?
So much maximalism in there. You see too flawed things and justify the fact you liked one by pretending to have some objective evalutation. No middle-ground, it's either shit or masterpiece, right? Can you see the logic in the fact that FNV, modded Fallout 3, is considered masterpiece even though most of its systems are copypasted from FO3, some additions are useless and in some regards its worse? There was still some magic that turned a turd into a cake? What is it, dialogue and story?
Especially notable with comparing FO2 and FO3 in regards of story. FO3 is *less* broken in that regard. When in your defense of FO2 you deny obvious things like FO3 having more consistent tone and better exploration. Dumb articles nitpicking character motivations and plotholes prove nothing as, again, FO2 had more of those. Do you remember it had magical shaman sending you vision as a part of main quest?
Ilitarist said:If you just lower your standard it's a perfectly acceptable game, guys.
you mean fallout 2?that they turned FO into a fucking circus of cultural references?
you mean fallout 2?that they turned FO into a fucking circus of cultural references?
FNV largely has the same gameplay as Fallout 3, down to dialog system (except for switching from chance to flat checks). It has a different quest structure in the second part of the game but this structure itself doesn't make it good - FO4 has the same structure and it's more or less horribly implemented. Writing and characters and somewhat different setting (by the way, FO3 "war happened last week" assets work even worse in a relatively developed setting so it loses some points there) are all the real advances. There are also updates for progression system with new perks, but there's also the fact Obsidian doesn't know what to do with 3D worlds so level design as well as some quest design really suffered.
I see most of you like a good story (this explains why you consider Morrowind to be good), but the game is much more than story. FONV is a step ahead of FO3 in terms of story/setting and that's pretty much it, evetything else is marginally better or worse..
NoFO3 had just as much reactivity, if not more
NoSo FNV is as good as Fallout 3
Yes, if i wanna play a RPG i don't want to find my dad and easily kill super mutants at LV1, Percentage skill checks are retaded, the non percentage ones are the worst.So what, shit game is transformed into a great game by adding a good story and more types of skillcheck
worse level design
I can never get enough of a good trashing of this pile of turd
Oh no you fucking didn't, you didn't just scoff at 1gb vram. My first gaming computer had 64 kb of RAM, hence it was called a commodore 64. My first pc, had one 1mb of vram and I'd just love to shove all of its 13,3 inches of Trident VLB glory up your ass without lube (or dos4gw for that matter). You fucking entitled piece of .... ow fuck who am I kidding. Good on you kid, you lucked out and started enjoying RPG's in a time where pc's are still backwards compatible with every crappy system that came before and in the meantime can enjoy any new AAA++ game that's released. Best of two worlds.Before that, I played Skyrim and then FO3 two years ago on my first "gaming" computer (1GB VRAM, lel).
Oh no you fucking didn't, you didn't just scoff at 1gb vram. My first gaming computer had 64 kb of RAM, hence it was called a commodore 64. My first pc, had one 1mb of vram and I'd just love to shove all of it's 13,3 inches of Trident VLB glory up your ass without lube (or dos4gw for that matter). You fucking entitled piece of .... ow fuck who am I kidding. Good on you kid, you lucked out and started enjoying RPG's in a time where pc's are still backwards compatible with every crappy system that came before and in the meantime can enjoy any new AAA++ game that's released. Best of two worlds.Before that, I played Skyrim and then FO3 two years ago on my first "gaming" computer (1GB VRAM, lel).
I know, I discarded my 1gb card one year ago, it was also when i bought my first mainboard without a FDD or IDE connector and my first PC-case without a 5,25" bay. It just made me notice how time's flying and just felt like going on an old guys rant. But I mean it, if you started out in the 1gb vram era, which really isn't that long ago, you're in a position to enjoy all the golden oldies while also enjoying all the new games that come out. A great time to start RPG-gaming. It's getting more and more difficult to get old dos or amiga games to work, so enjoy it while you still can.What I really meant to say is that, by today's standards, 1GB VRAM is not a gaming computer at all. But it was the first computer which allow me to actually play games in a long, long time.