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comrade troglodyte :M
I see that cronyism can be found even on the dex. Why is this article not flagged as advertising?
Don't forget to add the disclaimer that I have half the Codex as friend on Steam and played Killing Floor with a lot of them. :3I see that cronyism can be found even on the dex. Why is this article not flagged as advertising?
Overal, that's also a problem with this gaming industry: It's just glorified toys in the view of the general population. Movies, on the other hand, are enjoyed by kids and grandmas all over the world.
Its Sir Patrick Steward for you, you uncultured swine!Article is amazing felipepepe.
Unfortunately trends are shaped by young people who will never read it
Edit: wait who's Patrick Steward?
I think any media is not excluded from this problem. Movies didn't start with potemkin they were waaaay before but we simply either don't have actually them anymore or we simply forgot about them.
With media mature comes need for archiving older important stuff.
Its Sir Patrick Steward for you, you uncultured swine!Article is amazing felipepepe.
Unfortunately trends are shaped by young people who will never read it
Edit: wait who's Patrick Steward?
Also, Captain Jean-Luc Picard, as you may know him.
That's the fundamental difference between film and gaming. You're not in the audience. It's a lot easier to sit through something primitive and weird as an audience member than as the one interacting with it, particularly if the person you're watching play it actually does know what he's doing and doesn't have all the same pointless confusion you'd experience in his place.
Its Sir Patrick Steward for you, you uncultured swine!Article is amazing felipepepe.
Unfortunately trends are shaped by young people who will never read it
Edit: wait who's Patrick Steward?
Also, Captain Jean-Luc Picard, as you may know him.
Right, the captain after James Diberius KirkIts Sir Patrick Steward for you, you uncultured swine!Article is amazing felipepepe.
Unfortunately trends are shaped by young people who will never read it
Edit: wait who's Patrick Steward?
Also, Captain Jean-Luc Picard, as you may know him.
You mean Jean-Luc Picart.
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Cinema is over a century old, yet it’s expected for any decent critic or self-proclaimed enthusiast to have a knowledge ranging from ancient classics such as Battleship Potemkin and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari to recent movies only shown at foreign festivals. If you tried to write about cinema having watched only post-90’s movies and one or two older Disney animations, you would be nothing more than a joke. Renting Citizen Kane once, or the fact that you grew up watching movies, aren't remarkable achievements in a serious industry.
So how can we ask others to respect games as art, when even gamers and industry professionals don’t bother to learn about its history?
Yes, there will always be monks preserving knowledge, but you can't say that our past is still remembered because a guy in Ukraine uploaded a video of a old game and got 5 views. The real issue is the public awareness.I suppose it's because older games often have very weak interfaces, are sometimes difficult to run on new machines and take a lot longer to complete than it does to watch a movie. But it's absurd to say people have forgotten. The internet's full of retrospectives on old games. I'm sure you can find YouTube playthroughs of any given late-80s early-90s game you wanted.
And that goes against all the discourse being made by these same people on how games are art, how they should be respected and be treated as culture.
With games there is obviously the added factor of constant technological progress. Most people probably believe that older games are outdated and therefore only of limited 'merit' (or none at all).
And that goes against all the discourse being made by these same people on how games are art, how they should be respected and be treated as culture.
There is, but obviously nowhere near the same extent as is the case with video games. The most significant ones were the jump from silent to sound and black-and-white to color, both of which happened more than half a century ago.With games there is obviously the added factor of constant technological progress. Most people probably believe that older games are outdated and therefore only of limited 'merit' (or none at all).
Because with movies there is no technological advancement?
And that goes against all the discourse being made by these same people on how games are art, how they should be respected and be treated as culture.
Games from the late 80s and early 90s, depending on form, are often more comparable to films like A Man Sneezes or A Train Goes By than they are to Nosferatu or Cabinet of Doctor Caligari. The reality is that no one but film scholars DOES care about those ultra-early, ultra-primitive forays. In the era of Nosferatu, I doubt if anyone was sitting down to watch A Man Sneezes and going "what a fascinating cultural event." Early gaming, like early cinema, was essentially all about how exciting the format was, much more than it was about the content produced.
That becomes interesting in retrospect, once a form has become completely standardized and normal--today, it's bizarre and kind of fascinating to watch a fifteen second clip of a man sneezing and think, "This once wowed audiences." But we're nowhere near that era in history yet. We're far too close to the birth of "sophisticated" gaming and gaming is still entirely too much in flux for us to look at those early games and say "man, how could anyone ever have been entertained by this?" We're very much close enough to understand how they were entertaining; we're also close enough that most people without nostalgia find them cryptic, badly designed and boring. We'd need much more distance for it to have the novelty value of high weirdness.
I think having one Ukranian guy posting a YouTube video about Fountain of Dreams or whatever is very much in line with even our modern interest in parallel examples of ultra-early cinema, and is probably even closer to the amount of interest there was in A Man Sneezes twenty years after its time.
I think having one Ukranian guy posting a YouTube video about Fountain of Dreams or whatever is very much in line with even our modern interest in parallel examples of ultra-early cinema, and is
probably even closer to the amount of interest there was in A Man Sneezes twenty years after its time.
There is, but obviously nowhere near the same extent as is the case with video games. The most significant ones were the jump from silent to sound and black-and-white to color, both of which happened more than half a century ago.With games there is obviously the added factor of constant technological progress. Most people probably believe that older games are outdated and therefore only of limited 'merit' (or none at all).
Because with movies there is no technological advancement?
When talking about Alakabeth or dnd I understand that, but when we go to Lands of Lore, Daggerfall, Ultima VI and the likes, that's ridiculous.Games from the late 80s and early 90s, depending on form, are often more comparable to films like A Man Sneezes or A Train Goes By than they are to Nosferatu or Cabinet of Doctor Caligari.