Fallout: New Vegas - first screenshots (not scans)

[roll-a-die]

I'll have to disagree with that. No NWN mod could fix the two worst problems with the game: non-stop crashes and corrupted saves, and terribad engine with clunky combat and no real party support. Even the good modules were a pain to play because of this.

I think you are thinking about the new shit. NWN 1 didn't crash nor did it corrupt your saves.

You also have a much greater degree of quality mods for NWN 1.

 

[roll-a-die]

Well, I don't see any reason, why is this game won't suck ass.
FFS, it's OBSIDIAN! They fucked up NWN and KOTOR franchises.

Impossible to do, both franchises were already beyond fucked up.

I liked NWN (not the original campaing... Holy fuck it was stupid). I liked multiplayer mode and toolset was the best kit for modmakers since FRUA. Second NWN's official campaing was even more stupid and buggy, but what they did to toolset just made my piss boil.
First KOTOR was at least enjoyable. And story was p. nice (as much as it possible for SW setting). Second KOTOR was just fucked up. Story didn't make any sense, a lot of dialogs didn't make sense, companions were typical clichés

The buggynes and dialog/story not making sense is because, well they had to cut almost a quarter of the game. An entire planet and tonnes of cut scenes due to time constraints set by Lucas Arts.

 

[.Sigurd]

Well, I don't see any reason, why is this game won't suck ass.
FFS, it's OBSIDIAN! They fucked up NWN and KOTOR franchises.

Impossible to do, both franchises were already beyond fucked up.

I liked NWN (not the original campaing... Holy fuck it was stupid). I liked multiplayer mode and toolset was the best kit for modmakers since FRUA. Second NWN's official campaing was even more stupid and buggy, but what they did to toolset just made my piss boil.
First KOTOR was at least enjoyable. And story was p. nice (as much as it possible for SW setting). Second KOTOR was just fucked up. Story didn't make any sense, a lot of dialogs didn't make sense, companions were typical clichés

The buggynes and dialog/story not making sense is because, well they had to cut almost a quarter of the game. An entire planet and tonnes of cut scenes due to time constraints set by Lucas Arts.

I really liked the character background (especially Atton and Bao-Dur), and the plot is not extremely cliche like KotOR1.
The dialogues are also better than the ones from KotOR1.

 

[ScottishMartialArts]

Narrative coherence does fall apart pretty spectacularly in the last quarter of the game though.

 

[The Wizard]

due to time constraints set by Lucas Arts.

now don't sell obsidian short, the upgraded minigames were their idea.

who even played those more than once? the pod race thing was horrible in the first kotor, and adding a jump button didn't really help at making it better.

 

[Sceptic]

I think you are thinking about the new shit. NWN 1 didn't crash nor did it corrupt your saves.

I'm not, it's NWN1 I'm talking about. I've seen the same crashes and save corruptions on 3 different systems over the years, no two with the same combination of hardware, and each using a different patch version. NWN2 didn't crash on me once and apart from some minor glitches it runs cleanly with the latest patch.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

You must be living in bizzaro world if NWN2 is stable and NWN1 isn't.

 

[Sceptic]

It's called the real world

and yeah it's very bizzaro

 

[roll-a-die]

Yeah NWN 1 only really has issues when it's a pirate version/cracked.

I've played NWN 1 since release with very few crashes that were the games fault. Only 1 corrupted save but that was because at the time my ram was faulty.

 

[Droog White Smile]

Indeed, NWN1 was a very stable game. Good performance as well.

 

[Lockkaliber]

Narrative coherence does fall apart pretty spectacularly in the last quarter of the game though.

This always gets thrown around when talking about KotOR 2 but I've never found the game particularly incoherent beyond the obvious examples of the cut HK-factory and Malachor V, which hardly make up a quarter of the game. Perhaps you could explain further?

 

[roll-a-die]

Scores of dialogue with handmaiden, Atton, Kriea, Visas. There is evidence that you could train Bao-dur as a jedi. The planet of robots was supposed to have another jedi than the one on Korriban. Ehm the HK factory was supposed to have some exposition on where Revan went and where the HK's fit into it. The end sequence on Malchior was supposed to be twice as long with more exposition by kriera. The second meeting with handmaidens mistress was also cut short.

They basically had to cut the entire end sequence into a quarter of what it had been.

 

[.Sigurd]

you could train Bao-dur as a jed.

You can train Bao-Dur as a Jedi (Jedi Guardian).

 

[roll-a-die]

I could have sworn that had been cut out. I always played full dark-side that's probably why.

 

[.Sigurd]

I could have sworn that had been cut out. I always played full dark-side that's probably why.

Bao-Dur is a light-side character, if you chose the dark-side patch you gonna have a bad rep with him.

 

[Lockkaliber]

Scores of dialogue with handmaiden, Atton, Kriea, Visas. There is evidence that you could train Bao-dur as a jedi. The planet of robots was supposed to have another jedi than the one on Korriban. Ehm the HK factory was supposed to have some exposition on where Revan went and where the HK's fit into it. The end sequence on Malchior was supposed to be twice as long with more exposition by kriera. The second meeting with handmaidens mistress was also cut short.

They basically had to cut the entire end sequence into a quarter of what it had been.

That explains what was cut, and I am well aware of that, but it doesn't make a quarter of the game incoherent. Much of what was cut, as far as dialog goes was not vital to the story, except for Malacor V and the HK-factory.

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

Bao-Dur is a light-side character, if you chose the dark-side patch you gonna have a bad rep with him.

I never had problems turning him Jedi while playing Darkside.

 

[Sceptic]

Yeah NWN 1 only really has issues when it's a pirate version/cracked.

NWN1 hasn't needed a crack for a few patches now. Didn't improve stability, and as I said this was on 3 completely different systems (in 2 different continents too)

 

[Clockwork Knight]

NWN wa always stable for me. Pirated platinum and later bought diamond, both start up fast and don't crash.

 

[Sceptic]

Bah! away with you all. The multi-headed Gaider was right and I seem to live in a parallel dimension where NWN2 runs like a charm and NWN1 is an unstable piece of shit. I think I have the better half of the deal too: you can keep your real world and your stable HOTU, I'll keep my bizzaro world and my stable MOTB

 

[Mangoose]

Yep, always had stable runnings with NWN1.

 

[Secretninja]

those screenshots makes me want to vomit

you're grammar make me want to vomit

sorry im not a grammar

 

[roll-a-die]

Scores of dialogue with handmaiden, Atton, Kriea, Visas. There is evidence that you could train Bao-dur as a jedi. The planet of robots was supposed to have another jedi than the one on Korriban. Ehm the HK factory was supposed to have some exposition on where Revan went and where the HK's fit into it. The end sequence on Malchior was supposed to be twice as long with more exposition by kriera. The second meeting with handmaidens mistress was also cut short.

They basically had to cut the entire end sequence into a quarter of what it had been.

That explains what was cut, and I am well aware of that, but it doesn't make a quarter of the game incoherent. Much of what was cut, as far as dialog goes was not vital to the story, except for Malacor V and the HK-factory.

Ahh it would have been much better had it not been cut and had obsidian given it a longer beta cycle before going gold. Expository details would have been a bit more plentiful and the story would have been a little bit better.

Am I the only one who liked swoop racing and pazzak?

I have a question though wasn't dantooine bombed to hell like taris and Carths planet? How were we able to walk on it much less meet the jedi council there?

 

[ScottishMartialArts]

Narrative coherence does fall apart pretty spectacularly in the last quarter of the game though.

This always gets thrown around when talking about KotOR 2 but I've never found the game particularly incoherent beyond the obvious examples of the cut HK-factory and Malachor V, which hardly make up a quarter of the game. Perhaps you could explain further?

It's been long enough since I played KotOR that I can't remember specific examples. Nevertheless, I do remember becoming increasingly confused and uncertain of what was happening and why, from when you meet up with all the Jedi Masters on Dantooine, and Kreia kills them, to the ending.

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

I could have sworn that had been cut out. I always played full dark-side that's probably why.

Bao-Dur is a light-side character, if you chose the dark-side patch you gonna have a bad rep with him.

Unless you guide him along to the Dark Side as well, which isn't really all that hard. Considering he starts out with some obvious repressed rage issues, anyway.



Problem is his 'Dark' self looks like someone scribbled on his face with magic marker.