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Does the Bethesda Fallout fan base even like Fallout 4 more than 3 and New Vegas?
More than Fallout 3 for certain. New Vegas is weird as the appeal is completely different for each game.
Does the Bethesda Fallout fan base even like Fallout 4 more than 3 and New Vegas?
avalanche makes AA games, not that it can't look better than AAA:
Not trueBethesda doesn’t make AAA games either. At least budget wise, but they do sell like blockbuster titles.
2028Elder Scrolls 6 being their next title after that, (when is that coming, like 2026/2027?)
TES is the only franchise they haven't completely fucked up yet
Not trueBethesda doesn’t make AAA games either. At least budget wise, but they do sell like blockbuster titles.
2028Elder Scrolls 6 being their next title after that, (when is that coming, like 2026/2027?)
avalanche makes AA games, not that it can't look better than AAA:
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Fallout 3 - 12.4 million.Does the Bethesda Fallout fan base even like Fallout 4 more than 3 and New Vegas? I can get Bethesda putting Skyrim on everything, it was by a wide margin the best selling game they ever made. But Fallout 4 sales are pretty similar to Fallout 3.
avalanche makes AA games, not that it can't look better than AAA:
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And why make a car game instead of silver shroud you can also play as ordinary character?
Who cares about avalanche n+1 deferred looking rendering engine that did fuck all with its realtime focus while John's RAGE has unmatched vista and distance rendering? Give me RAGE 1 with prerender weather anytime over "alsoran" deferred engine games.
Homefront 2 has prerender and it was obviously worth it . Will be the same on mobile, realtime AAA was just corner cutting.
Starfield budget started at 200 million $ and only grew higher, most likely to 400 million with marketing costs.
Bethesda doesn’t make AAA games either. At least budget wise, but they do sell like blockbuster titles.
It's kinda terrible to think that FO4 sold 42 times as many copies as FO1, if we are to trust the figures at that site.Fallout 3 - 12.4 million.Does the Bethesda Fallout fan base even like Fallout 4 more than 3 and New Vegas? I can get Bethesda putting Skyrim on everything, it was by a wide margin the best selling game they ever made. But Fallout 4 sales are pretty similar to Fallout 3.
Fallout: New Vegas - 11.6 million.
Fallout 4 - 25 million.
https://www.vgchartz.com/game/226290/fallout/
Probably at certain point they stopped tracking F1&2 sales. Remeber that these games were sold in the times when market was much smaller. They were also offered for free on Epic and sold in bundles.It's kinda terrible to think that FO4 sold 42 times as many copies as FO1, if we are to trust the figures at that site.Fallout 3 - 12.4 million.
Fallout: New Vegas - 11.6 million.
Fallout 4 - 25 million.
https://www.vgchartz.com/game/226290/fallout/
F4 was on every cable network for months.Starfield budget started at 200 million $ and only grew higher, most likely to 400 million with marketing costs.
Bethesda doesn’t make AAA games either. At least budget wise, but they do sell like blockbuster titles.
Also 500 devs worked on it for ~ 8 years.
These are AAA numbers if I ever saw any.
Btw: Skyrim budget was around 100 million $ (development & marketing). These are also AAA numbers, especially in reality of 2011.
For comparison an AA title costs from several million (Greedfall costed 5, Deadfire 5,5) up to more than a dozen million $.
Yeah, for sure the market is enormous compared to what it was mid-90s, but still, I doubt it has expanded by a factor 40, could be wrong and google tells the answer. Not denying their influence, either.Probably at certain point they stopped tracking F1&2 sales. Remeber that these games were sold in the times when market was much smaller. They were also offered for free on Epic and sold in bundles.It's kinda terrible to think that FO4 sold 42 times as many copies as FO1, if we are to trust the figures at that site.Fallout 3 - 12.4 million.
Fallout: New Vegas - 11.6 million.
Fallout 4 - 25 million.
https://www.vgchartz.com/game/226290/fallout/
The games were much more influential than the meagre sales numbers would suggest.
I read that for Skyrim it was 85 millions for development, 15 for marketing. Don't know about F4.F4 was on every cable network for months.
Marketing costs were on par with GTAV, but somehow I doubt development budget was on par.
Bethesda probably doubles devleopment budget with marketing, it uld be interesting to see those numbers separately.
Completely unrealistic ratio, to put it mildly.I read that for Skyrim it was 85 millions for development, 15 for marketing.
Different times.Completely unrealistic ratio, to put it mildly.I read that for Skyrim it was 85 millions for development, 15 for marketing.
Yeah, that makes it look like they didn't do much marketing at all besides game journos and conventions for Skyrim at the beggining.Completely unrealistic ratio, to put it mildly.I read that for Skyrim it was 85 millions for development, 15 for marketing.
Starfield budget started at 200 million $ and only grew higher, most likely to 400 million with marketing costs.
Bethesda doesn’t make AAA games either. At least budget wise, but they do sell like blockbuster titles.
Also 500 devs worked on it for ~ 8 years.
These are AAA numbers if I ever saw any.
Btw: Skyrim budget was around 100 million $ (development & marketing). These are also AAA numbers, especially in reality of 2011.
For comparison an AA title costs from several million (Greedfall costed 5, Deadfire 5,5) up to more than a dozen million $.
It's kinda terrible to think that FO4 sold 42 times as many copies as FO1, if we are to trust the figures at that site.
An updated Fallout 3, with better looks and mechanics, would be a lot more work than the bunch of bugfixes and minor engine update you'll be getting for Fallout 4. This "next-gen update" is just meant as a cover for introducing the new Creations system, and possibly to help market the upcoming Fallout TV series.Does the Bethesda Fallout fan base even like Fallout 4 more than 3 and New Vegas? I can get Bethesda putting Skyrim on everything, it was by a wide margin the best selling game they ever made. But Fallout 4 sales are pretty similar to Fallout 3. I’d also think some better looking (with better combat mechanics) updated version of Fallout 3 would generate more hype among their fan base than a updated version of their 2015 game.
Nah, that's just off, Bethesda's been making near enough the definition of AAA Action-RPGs since Oblivion. They used to be more streamlined in production, pulling it off with slightly smaller teams than most competitors (up until Starfield at least) thanks to their specialised toolset expertise, but their scope, pricing and market perception was firmly in AAA territory. These are the things that define the AAA segment, the customer's end, not the staff count or budget in and of itself, that's indulging in the same fallacy as devs going "stop criticising, we worked really hard on it." The Witcher 3, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Assasin's Creed and all of those other AAA Action-RPGs were always going up against whatever Bethesda's latest flagship was.Bethesda doesn’t make AAA games either. At least budget wise, but they do sell like blockbuster titles.