Escapist Magazine + Extra Credits dramastorm

[Ermm]

I only like moviebob on escapist, but that ExtraCredits is so full of derp that I think my monitor will explode. That voice is so fucking annoying, and he is philosophing for like 6 min about some console trash (and mentions Call Of Derp a lot).

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/ ... Easy-Games

I think the pink, little derp rabbit moved a bit.

 

[Volrath]

Escapist are the faggots who called Fallout outdated. Let them rot.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

Escapist is going down? HELL FUCKING YEAST INFECTION!

 

[Ermm]

Word is on the street that for Social Gaming this week could be very hard, and that investors are starting to afraid of Zynga because of risks or something like that.

Maybe TheEscapist closing is the first step to incline.

 

[Quilty]

Erm... I don't find Extra Credits or MovieBob or Deraleous “shitty” by any standards. On contrary, they offer very fine, very entertaining, often insightful around-gaming-and-the-culture-thoughts.

You gotta be fucking kidding me. Each video I've seen of this has been nothing but completely unfunny and stupid, with the 'insight' being typical next-gen tardism paired with 'high journalism!!!'. I'd rather read John Walker's wankery on RPS than this shit.

Hey let's not go crazy here.

This, a hundred times this. Don't even think about reading that utter bullshit.

 

[CorpseZeb]

You gotta be fucking kidding me. Each video I've seen of this has been nothing but completely unfunny and stupid, with the 'insight' being typical next-gen tardism paired with 'high journalism!!!'. I'd rather read John Walker's wankery on RPS than this shit.

Ok, you may don't agree with Extra Credtis PoV, but – c'mon - you should give them a one credit at least – one extra credit - they really care about computer games as new medium, as new form of free speech, as a new form of artistic freedom. Maybe they are a bit idealist, but hey – idealists change the world.

Ps. 'high journalism!!!'? What it is supposed to mean? If you said by that, it will be very bad, if they disappears, because they doing very hard work by educating "typical next-gen" audience, then yeah... you can call that in this way.

 

[ortucis]

Extra Credits is more for game developers than the retarded gamers who find it cool to hate everything out there for no fucking reason.

Also, how exactly does the Escapist manage to add stupid shit like gaming shows with porn stars if they are running out of money to pay for something like Extra Credits? Lets not forget the Witcher 2 review as well compared to DA2.

 

[Haba]

Worst is on the street that for Social Gaming this week could be very hard, and that investors are starting to afraid of Zynga because of risks or something like that.

Maybe TheEscapist closing is the first step to incline.

The way the economy looks like at the moment, it isn't just Zynga and Escapist that will get the shaft...

 

[Ermm]

I just noticed I wrote ''Worst is on street'' LOL. Fixed

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Twenty bucks says soon enough DU will tell us that Taluntain will need 200$ in donations to treat a gold brick-related injury.

 

[Menckenstein]

Does that girl have boneitis or something?

 

[sea]

Extra Credits are alright, but they have been sort of going down the drain for a while as they have to stretch for more and more ideas, and sometimes they have a habit of rushing through issues without really getting into them, offering up an excuse like "we don't have enough time to talk about this". Hey guys, if you don't have enough time, then split the episode up into multiple parts! That said, dismissing them for being too idealist or too focused on the gaming industry as a whole instead of your one favourite uber-hardcore corner of it is stupidly closed-minded. A lot of it is game theory/design/social issues 101, but they do a great job of communicating that stuff in an easy-to-understand way.

Aside from those guys, MovieBob is the only actual smart person producing content for The Escapist after Shamus Young left (at least I think he did). Sounds to me like they're in a rock and a hard place... chances are they just don't have the capital on hand to both pay their content creators and maintain their site, and they don't make enough ad revenue in order to do so. Kind of sucks for everyone, and I completely sympathise with those angry about losing out on money, because frankly, creating good content on a regular basis pretty much has to be a full-time job. At the same time, James going on to take the money and use it to start an indie publishing label? That's just fucking lame on his part. And here I thought he was a decent person.

I guess that's the issue with working for the Internet... you need to be able to get up and leave at a second's notice, without getting pulled into this sort of drama. Unless it's something very casual, always have your terms defined up-front so that you can hold your employer to them. The whole "I know you have a lot to handle right now, so I don't mind if you don't pay me now" thing can be tempting, but that sort of attitude can also lead to your employer "forgetting" about paying you entirely.

 

[Fens]

dismissing them for being too idealist or too focused on the gaming industry as a whole instead of your one favourite uber-hardcore corner of it is stupidly closed-minded.

my gripe with them is rather that they're not idealistical at all... their shows mostly boil down to "we'd like it this way, they do it that way, but we're still fine with that and hooray for games whatever they're like"

that attitude doesn't need its own weekly show.

MovieBob is the only actual smart person producing content for The Escapist

moviebob is only entertaining if the movie isn't about comics... his massive hardon for anything DC/Marvel is annoying to say the least

 

[Renegen]

It's nice to know that the same scumbags that destroy gaming the way The Escapist has are also scumbags with their employees. Maybe in the future, everyone will hate them and be wiser.

 

[Redlands]

At the same time, James going on to take the money and use it to start an indie publishing label? That's just fucking lame on his part. And here I thought he was a decent person.

Well, supposedly it's a non-profit thing to help support the type of games that they like to talk about. God knows a vast majority of what they talk about is fucking retarded and/or kind of "closing the barn door after the horse has bolted"; but there's a lot of dumb people out there who need to be told these obvious things.

And apparently they also discussed what to do with the extra non-artist-fixing money publicly. If The Escapist people had an issue with that, they should have gone, "Umm, guys... x y z? Just a reminder." Not sure where James got the idea that it's 75% but since a lot of stuff isn't out in the open...

I guess that's the issue with working for the Internet... you need to be able to get up and leave at a second's notice, without getting pulled into this sort of drama. Unless it's something very casual, always have your terms defined up-front so that you can hold your employer to them. The whole "I know you have a lot to handle right now, so I don't mind if you don't pay me now" thing can be tempting, but that sort of attitude can also lead to your employer "forgetting" about paying you entirely.

Especially if you let it go for an entire year, and especially if they keep hiring new people to make content for them. If they're not going to pay you, where are they going to get the money to pay them as well?

 

[CorpseZeb]

my gripe with them is rather that they're not idealistical at all... their shows mostly boil down to "we'd like it this way, they do it that way, but we're still fine with that and hooray for games whatever they're like"

Huh? They showing sort of idealistic attitude 'bout cultural importance of gaming idiosyncrasy's. But for now, games are rather shows of second hand ideas borrowed from somewhere else...

 

[sgc_meltdown]

their shows mostly boil down to "we'd like it this way, they do it that way, but we're still fine with that and hooray for games whatever they're like"

that's because in 'gaming shows' these days you can only say things people might not like to hear if you produce content that might be construed as comedy or entertainment otherwise you are being serious and nobody will watch your crap you hateful person who hates games

 

[MasterSmithFandango]

By the way, is there any way to stem the tide of newfags with shitty taste? We can't get much more racist around here... what's next?

 

[Lightknight]

they really care about computer games as new medium, as new form of free speech, as a new form of artistic freedom. Maybe they are a bit idealist, but hey – idealists change the world.

Since when ? People like them never change anything, just talk about culture, artistic vision, expression, etc. I'd rather read what actual devs think on these issues. ACTUAL devs of GOOD games. Every interview with Shigeru Miyamoto is a fucking revelation, and he doesnt even say anything profound or tries to go deep into philosophy of gaming.

 

[CorpseZeb]

Since when ? People like them never change anything, just talk about culture, artistic vision, expression, etc. I'd rather read what actual devs think on these issues. ACTUAL devs of GOOD games. Every interview with Shigeru Miyamoto is a fucking revelation, and he doesnt even say anything profound or tries to go deep into philosophy of gaming.

Since beginning of homo sapiens...? There is a funny anecdote from French Revolution time – if I remembered correctly - one man asking what an idea is really worth, they all are just words printed in the books after all, so someone gives him a book full of revolution ideas skin-bound with skin of some blue blood royalist...

Anyway, if games are Art, then one, proper philosophy of gaming doesn't exist.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Ok, you may don't agree with Extra Credtis PoV, but – c'mon - you should give them a one credit at least – one extra credit - they really care about computer games as new medium, as new form of free speech, as a new form of artistic freedom. Maybe they are a bit idealist, but hey – idealists change the world.

Fuck off. Wowowowo new form of free speech, like I give a fuck about my computer games being a new form of free speech, I'd rather my computer games be actually good and have some proper gameplay, than be some faggy artsy bullshit. Also, lol idealists.

This is exactly what I mean by 'high journalism!!!!!'. A bunch of English majors suddenly find themselves in the position of a 'journalist!!!!!' and start spouting out long-winded speeches about 'art' because they are journalists!!!!! now. They are important and have opinions!!!!!! Please listen to me while I keep babbling about shit for 10 minutes without actually saying anything.

And if you say that they are 'educating' next-gen gamers, no, they are not. Unless you find the episode about 'difficulty = the whole gaem being composed of tutorials!!' a particularly educating insight. Jesus K Reist.

 

[MetalCraze]

I don't understand why this thread exists?

There is an important question not asked here

Is she hot and where are pics

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

By the way, is there any way to stem the tide of newfags with shitty taste? We can't get much more racist around here... what's next?

Rampant liberalism.

I agree, we need to piss off the right-wingers now.

 

[Surf Solar]

wtf is this thread..

Is Escapist this site where they have these "funny" videos of some guy talking as quick and as retarded as possible? Why do people care for this crap

 

[CorpseZeb]

Fuck off. Wowowowo new form of free speech, like I give a fuck about my computer games being a new form of free speech, I'd rather my computer games be actually good and have some proper gameplay, than be some faggy artsy bullshit. Also, lol idealists.

I see... You only care about yesterday great games, obviously. But old master of coding die eventually, or don't care any more. So what about tomorrow?

Like or not, games should be about freedom, art or not, should be about artistic ideas. You may want to burn new Gutenberg press, while good old ink and paper are all in rage, but you can't stop Revolution. Unless, of course, games drown into molasses of pure entertainment and fun. At one side of games coin – fun/entertainment/toy – on other - “high” (if you like) ideas – what would you choose?

In other words, yeah, plenty of games out there are “difficult”, so we don't need any form of freedom anymore (freedom to make difficult, challenging games), plenty of games out here are great brown-UT-shit, so for what we need new art direction? What you say? What's wrong with art and freedom in games, besides more diverse palette of choice?

And if you say that they are 'educating' next-gen gamers, no, they are not. Unless you find the episode about 'difficulty = the whole gaem being composed of tutorials!!' a particularly educating insight. Jesus K Reist.

Huh? They are right, case in point "Singularity", whole game is one big tutorial, no space left for game itself... But if "Singularity" had proper tutorial, then maybe...