Decline EA Rapes Dungeon Keeper

[DraQ]

Sometimes I can't help but wonder if Penny Arcade is too in "the know". Does 90% of their readership even know what that is even poking fun at?

Honestly, I can't blame them for forgetting that not everyone knows what are hantaviruses.

 

[Spectacle]

Sometimes I can't help but wonder if Penny Arcade is too in "the know". Does 90% of their readership even know what that is even poking fun at?

The daily news posts they do usually contain links that reference whatever it is they are parodying.
But yeah, if your read through the archive from the start, as one often does with webcomics, a lot of strips will be completely incomptehensible.

 

[Grinolf]

So I decided to try the first game and after first few missions it didn't look that good.
First thing, every mission felt the same and different maps and new buildings until now didn't affected gameplay in any noticeable way.
And even if the first missions are suppossed to be easy, it's not like they shouldn't have any strategical elements involved at all. But all development of the dungeons was very linear with no choices involved in it and combat consisted of just grabbing all your guys and dropping them onto enemy.
Also most of my time I spent on micromanaging the training room by both constantly increasing it's capacity and dropping new units there.
Compared to it, it didn't look like other rooms require much attention at all, until late game when you need to make your treasure more and more bigger, because you have so much money that you don't know what to do with them. Last game I ended with 150k gold.
Still hope, that situation would improve soon.

 

[Azrael the cat]

It's even spawned two separate articles in the Guardian newspaper (as in actual articles, not game reviews) about how shit it is, and how bad an idea it is for gaming

 

[zerotol]

It's even spawned two separate articles in the Guardian newspaper (as in actual articles, not game reviews) about how shit it is, and how bad an idea it is for gaming

Its good that even the not specialized media is signaling the shittyness of this model

There might still be hope.

well who am i kidding here

 

[FeelTheRads]

Still hope, that situation would improve soon.

 

[Dexter]

Dungeon Keeper for free for the next 2 days: http://af.gog.com/?as=1649904300

 

[theweirdn8]

Fear not my children, Simon Carter, the lead programmer of the original Dungeon Keeper approves of Underground Throne. DK will live again as a new I.P.

 

[Storyfag]

Fear not my children, Simon Carter, the lead programmer of the original Dungeon Keeper approves of Underground Throne. DK will live again as a new I.P.

Looks kinda meh, to be honest. It all depends on whether it will be able to pull off Dwarf Fortress' levels of FUN. In the meantime, I have higher hopes for War for the Overworld.

Still, in the end, I would really like to see a DK-themed game closer to Evil Genius - with you controlling a single, expanding dungeon. The reset at the start of each mission can get a bit tedious.

 

[Astral Rag]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-keeper-ad-accuses-ea-of-misleading-customers

 

[Average Manatee]

Not really , the only outcome was to ban the ad and its been so long that I'm guessing its no longer even running.

 

[Cazzeris]

I've finished the original Dungeon Keeper some hours ago. What a great game.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

Fear not my children, Simon Carter, the lead programmer of the original Dungeon Keeper approves of Underground Throne. DK will live again as a new I.P.

That looks awful.

 

[jcd]

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[Drax]

Brought to you by 1995.

 

[Horus]

Sometimes I can't help but wonder if Penny Arcade is too in "the know". Does 90% of their readership even know what that is even poking fun at?

The daily news posts they do usually contain links that reference whatever it is they are parodying.
But yeah, if your read through the archive from the start, as one often does with webcomics, a lot of strips will be completely incomptehensible.

Why would anyone want to read Penny Arcade archive from the start?

 

[Darth Roxor]

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/another-ea-exec-explains-why-new-dungeon-keeper-su/1100-6420996/

Now, EA Mobile boss Frank Gibeau has offered his own take on the matter, explaining in an interview with GamesIndustry International why the game came up short, but also why the company is not going to pull the plug on it anytime soon.

"Dungeon Keeper suffered from a few things," Gibeau said. "I don't think we did a particularly good job marketing it or talking to fans about their expectations for what Dungeon Keeper was going to be or ultimately should be. Brands ultimately have a certain amount of permission that you can make changes to, and I think we might have innovated too much or tried some different things that people just weren't ready for. Or, frankly, were not in tune with what the brand would have allowed us to do. We like the idea that you can bring back a brand at EA and express it in a new way. We've had some successes on that front, but in the case of Dungeon Keeper, that just didn't connect with an audience for a variety of reasons."

"If you watch some of the things we've been doing over the last eight or nine months, we've made a commitment to players," Gibeau said. "We're sincere and committed to that. So when you bring in a group of people to Dungeon Keeper and you serve them, create a live service, a relationship and a connection, you just can't pull the rug out from under them. That's just not fair. We can sustain the Dungeon Keeper business at its level for a very long time. We have a committed group of people who are playing the game and enjoying it. So our view is going to be that we'll keep Dungeon Keeper going as long as there's a committed and connected audience to that game. Are we going to sequel it? Probably not. [Laughs] But we don't want to just shut stuff off and walk away. You can't do that in a live service environment."

What's wrong, Codex? Can't handle innovashun?

 

[jcd]

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[Angelo85]

"Dungeon Keeper suffered [...] I don't think we did a particularly good job" Gibeau said.

There, quote has successfully been innovated.

 

[Jaedar]

I think they innovated too much in the "screwing their players over" department

 

[set]

They innovated in sucking, surprising EA just doesn't get a patent for how they do it.

 

[Caim]

Though to be fair, it *was* a completely new way to make a grab for our cash!

 

[Markman]

Its just fucking bullshit tactic and unfortunately there is alot of retards paying to skip paywalls so they can continue run in circles in a neverending wheel.

I will gladly pay for new content, but paying for unlocks and paying just to be able to grind a bit more is fucking retarded.
Lul, what if Dota or League would limit you to 2 matches a day and wanted you to pay 4.99 for a 24 hour pass? It would never work.

I wonder how this practice brings millions of dollars and its all from people that usually dont play games. Real gamers would never put up with this shit.
Like Angry Birds Go! , unlock a car for 49.99. Gtfo

 

[DraQ]

tried some different things that (they) just weren't ready for.

Sounds like something a child rapist would say in his attempted defense.

 

[FeelTheRads]

It's beautiful how he spins it to make it sound like it's the fault of the people who just can't accept change.

Is there a professional bullshitter job category yet?