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EA confirms KOTOR 3: it's an MMO
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MetalCraze
Arcane
Bioware was a part of EA since 2005 (They belonged to Elevation Partners which belongs to... uh oh.. John Riccitelo). So unless they are making this for more than 3 years - EA has a part in this.
racofer
Thread Incliner
Oh is that so? This explains some of the design choices in games like Jade Empire and Mass Effect, more precisely the real time combat.
skyway said:
What is your source for this?
MetalCraze
Arcane
wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation_Partners
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Riccitiello
According to it John Riccitiello was CEO of EA from 1997 till 2004 (being responsible for EA nazi policy of closing/fusing studios and intervening with development processes) - then he went to co-found Elevation Partners where he was managing director (the guy who buys stuff obv), the first real purchase of which were Bioware and Pandemic (they also got fused. traditionally for Ricci eh?) - then in 2007 Riccitiello returned to his old CEO position, bringing Bioware and Pandemic to EA (for a price).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation_Partners
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Riccitiello
According to it John Riccitiello was CEO of EA from 1997 till 2004 (being responsible for EA nazi policy of closing/fusing studios and intervening with development processes) - then he went to co-found Elevation Partners where he was managing director (the guy who buys stuff obv), the first real purchase of which were Bioware and Pandemic (they also got fused. traditionally for Ricci eh?) - then in 2007 Riccitiello returned to his old CEO position, bringing Bioware and Pandemic to EA (for a price).
Comrade Hamster said:
That's all we need is for another good developer to go belly up. Even if you dislike BioWare, you have to say that they're one of the very few companies even making an effort with the RPG genre. Take their projects away, and their successes (which gives publishers more reason to be less interested in publishing any RPGs), and the market is that much more dry.
skyway said:
That is... interesting. Thanks Skyway.
Dark Matter
Prophet
*sigh*
I really wanted to see Obsidian conclude the story arc. Looks like that won't be happening.
I wonder, is Bioware gonna continue where Obsidian left off? They are calling it a sequel after all. Is this even gonna have a story? God, I hope not. I'd much prefer if they just ignored Obsidian's game altogether and created a generic SW MMORPG. I'd prefer that over raping what Obsidian created in KOTOR 2.
I hope this game fails miserably. Too bad, it won't affect EA a whole lot, they'll possibly just shutdown Bioware and move on.
I really wanted to see Obsidian conclude the story arc. Looks like that won't be happening.
I wonder, is Bioware gonna continue where Obsidian left off? They are calling it a sequel after all. Is this even gonna have a story? God, I hope not. I'd much prefer if they just ignored Obsidian's game altogether and created a generic SW MMORPG. I'd prefer that over raping what Obsidian created in KOTOR 2.
I hope this game fails miserably. Too bad, it won't affect EA a whole lot, they'll possibly just shutdown Bioware and move on.
spiwak
Novice
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The main problem with this is the same as Galaxies, namely that everyone wants to be a jedi but doesn't want anyone else being a jedi for fear of force overcrowding. I mean, after all, there were how many jedi in KotOR 2?
I don't see how this will work, especially with the leveling system of the KotOR games, which was all about a) 20-30 level caps, and b) being a jedi.
I don't see how this will work, especially with the leveling system of the KotOR games, which was all about a) 20-30 level caps, and b) being a jedi.
kris
Arcane
Dire Roach said:
I am a Star wars fan and I don't care about this. Meh.
Fuck
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that's all I have to say on this matter
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that's all I have to say on this matter
Unlike some of you guys who are saying that you won't miss Bioware if it gets canned, I hope the game sells enough so it does not happen. You may not like Bioware, but they sure make good games and without them the empty void in which we are waiting for a decent RPG to come out would just get bigger. However I must say this is one Bioware game that I will probably skip.
Xi
Arcane
Fuck the gaming industry, fuck them in their stupid asses!
Dire Roach
Prophet
SWG was released in June 2003. In August 2005, Sony announced that they had sold one million units of the game worldwide. A total of three boxed expansions were released in a span of slightly over two years, the last two in 2005, which meant they were in direct competition with WoW (released in November 2004). Recently, they announced they were going to release a collectible card game for it, which means there must still be a substantial player base that they are making money off of, even in today's WoW-hitting-ass-and-leg world. Is this not enough of a financial success for any pre or post-WoW MMO?Lesifoere said:
In any case, my point was this: Star Wars fans are the kind of people that will mindlessly open their wallets to anything that has their adored franchise's name on it. They might hate a lot of things about the Star Wars universe, they might bitch endlessly about how George Lucas raped the series with the prequels, but ultimately, they succumb to hype very easily. I know this because I, unfortunately, used to hang out in a dreaded Star Wars Fanforce chapter.
And kris, you may not be drooling over the game now, but you will be. YOU WILL BE.
Edit: Also, SWG's shittyness works in Bioware's favor. Dissapointed SWG players are most likely eagerly anticipating a better Star Wars MMO to come out, especially one that will be done by the same company that made KotOR.
kris
Arcane
Araanor said:
Two words: Phantasy star
I am disappointed that we'll not see a *real* KOTOR 3, but I am not convinced this will fail, financially.
Like some people already mentioned, Galaxies is expired, there aren't many SciFi MMOs and Bioware / EA have enough resources to support the project. Of course, it will probably not have a huge market success like WoW, but it could still make a decent profit.
I won't play it, but probably enough people will.
Like some people already mentioned, Galaxies is expired, there aren't many SciFi MMOs and Bioware / EA have enough resources to support the project. Of course, it will probably not have a huge market success like WoW, but it could still make a decent profit.
I won't play it, but probably enough people will.
rpgcodexusername
Arcane
yeah it will be a bunch of jedis using the force powers that temporarily paralyse other characters...if KOTOR 1 is anything to go by.
Or you could craft items!
Or you could craft items!
There is one big problem when you try to make MMO Star Wars. How can you make other classes compete against the Jedi? I mean, Jedi are just too damn powerful. Ofcourse everyone will want to play them and because they can heal, shield, use the force, etc they are pretty much self sufficient.
Does anyone have an idea how you can make this work, so there is not 100 jedi/10 other classes?
The only way I see that it could work is if they don't allow you to be a Jedi, but then the kids would go crazy. What? You can't be a jedi? This game sucks.
Maybe if they put a level limit before you can become a jedi, but that would also just be a matter of time before you would have bunch of L60 jedis.
Even if they hired actors to play jedi and have a council in which they would observe you and decide if you are worthy or not to become a jedi would not work.
Even if you tried to make the classes balanced it would just mess with SW lore. It just can't work.
Does anyone have an idea how you can make this work, so there is not 100 jedi/10 other classes?
The only way I see that it could work is if they don't allow you to be a Jedi, but then the kids would go crazy. What? You can't be a jedi? This game sucks.
Maybe if they put a level limit before you can become a jedi, but that would also just be a matter of time before you would have bunch of L60 jedis.
Even if they hired actors to play jedi and have a council in which they would observe you and decide if you are worthy or not to become a jedi would not work.
Even if you tried to make the classes balanced it would just mess with SW lore. It just can't work.
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