People News David Gaider leaves BioWare

[undecaf]

Well the thing is that Gaider is a good designer but a bad writer.

Skilled and talented people playing roles that they are shitty at :lesigh: (coughGeorgecoughLucascough)

I'll take your word for it as I've only heard about the horrendous stuff about his writing.

And I'm also drunk enough to not be able to make a coherent point or query about a subject I don't really care about.

 

[Pirata Alma Negra]

I suppose Chris Avellone will assume his role in Bioware and he will produce the next InXile Ip

 

[Mangoose]

Well the thing is that Gaider is a good designer but a bad writer.

Skilled and talented people playing roles that they are shitty at :lesigh: (coughGeorgecoughLucascough)

I'll take your word for it as I've only heard about the horrendous stuff about his writing.

And I'm also drunk enough to not be able to make a coherent point or query about a subject I don't really care about.

Yeah he made some really good mods for BG2.

Edit: Hardcore combat/dungeon mods. Not story ones.

Huh. Also he apparently wrote HK47, Jolee, and Carth. Carth obviously very ehhhh but Jolee and HK47 were great. But he wasn't lead or story writer or anything, just wrote the specific characters.

After that he became lead writer for Bioware and it all went downhill.

BTW, another funny fact is that Hepler wrote the Smuggler storyline for SWTOR, which was actually a pretty good storyline. (Some of the class storylines in SWTOR were actually decent because they had to outsource non-Bioware writers to fill them in)

I suppose Chris Avellone will assume his role in Bioware and he will produce the next InXile Ip

Isn't it more likely that he'll stick with Larian?

 

[Roguey]

He also helped create http://popdemandmod.wikia.com/wiki/Pop_Demand_Mod_Wiki

 

[Grimlorn]

Maybe he got into a fight with the BioWare resident anti-white guy

My bet is on him sexually harassing employees at Bioware.

 

[Black]

Maybe he got into a fight with the BioWare resident anti-white guy

This sad little fuck?

 

[Alienman]

Exactly

 

[Zep Zepo]

"Hey "Gay"dar, write any romances for the new IP today?"

"Oh "Gay"duh, did you submit that new tranny dialogue yet?"

"Oh "Gay"derp, is that marrying an animal script written yet?"

Gaider: "I cry evry teim. I leave noa"

Zep--

 

[Zeriel]

ENSLAVE NATIONS WITH NECROMANCY

 

[Sothpaw]

Good riddance.

 

[DeepOcean]

Great, now Feargus can have Gaider as a stretch goal for PoE 2 and we get to know how big Durance's staff is.

 

[Nekot-The-Brave]

So, if a game only had gay romances. Would that be exclusive enough for you?

 

[Septaryeth]

Or perhaps not. Does anybody really care?

Personally I do think he believes in what he wrote, to the point where he would go to Bioware Social Network to defend it.
Then again, arguing then banning players complaining about "retcon" is already pretty low, but to get butthurt from all the criticism and ragequit the official forum of his own game sets another record.

"Oh "Gay"derp, is that marrying an animal script written yet?"

by Jools

 

[Average Manatee]

inb4 he joins Obsidian to fill Avellone's place.

 

[Shadenuat]

Well the thing is that Gaider is a good designer but a bad writer.

Huh. Also he apparently wrote HK47, Jolee, and Carth.

He is actually also not a bad writer. He also made the better add-on to NWN1 which main campaign was shit, and I think Morrigan, Alistair and Shale in DA:O - and these are characters who have the most C&C and their stories tie into game world the strongest.
Also from all AAA developers I think he has most posts on the 'dex?

I always thought he is competent at writing and design, and it's just studio politics that might have given him bad rep. Or broke his mind and made him shitpost on his own company forums. Either way if he'd just write us modules like HoU and characters like Jolee, in games that would benefit from his quirky writing, I don't think anyone would be unhappy about that.

 

[abnaxus]

Nevar forget

 

[Atlantico]

I saw it as the writing was on the wall for Gaider as soon as he announced he was leaving his post as a lead writer on Dragon Age. Everybody in corporate denies this, but DA:I was a considerable flop.

The people who worked on DA:I are moving to other projects and the future of the DA franchise is unclear. He wasn't going to be a lead-writer on anything else at Bioware, so there's only one way for him: out. Do something else.

DA:O was the success that called for corporate to order a sequel, give it an awesome button and embrace the consoles. DA:I was released years later and there's no word on any sequel or plans to make one.

Perhaps a reboot is planned, but either way, Gaider would never be involved. I don't know if I can blame him completely for the fuck-up DAI and DA2 were, but I will give him a fair share, because as stupid and pathetic as those were as *games* they also sucked dick storywise. And that part is on Gaider.

I can't even say I'm happy to see him gone, because as talentless a hack as he was as an RPG writer, he didn't hire himself. Bioware is still Bioware.

 

[Morality Games]

DA:O was the success that called for corporate to order a sequel, give it an awesome button and embrace the consoles. DA:I was released years later and there's no word on any sequel or plans to make one.
.

Gaider one of the two best writers Bioware ever had. In a perverse way Dragon Age: Inquisition showcases his abilities because he had the knowledge and expertise to cynically exploit the Tumblr crowd. That's also a reflection of the talent of the writers beneath him, though.

I'm not sure why people still say DAII was a badly written game, when it was in fact a fairly well written visual novel, better than almost all the stuff the Japanese write. Unlike Origins, the writing didn't buttress up the RPG systems because there weren't any systems to be boosted.

 

[Tigranes]

Gaider was alright, and his writing / design was often pretty enjoyable. He clearly has a passion for RPGs and he's kept at it. Although half the Codex still plays Bioware games for some reason, it's probably a good thing that he's no longer there, opening up the slimmest of chances that his next project might be interesting.

 

[Bumvelcrow]

This seems like a good time to ask if anyone wants to buy a copy of The Stolen Throne? Mint condition and unread. Could potentially be signed, depending if I can find a copy of Gaider's signature. If no offers then I might have to read it (or at least ask someone to post a brief synopsis).

 

[Paul_cz]

I really hope he isn't going to CDP or Obsidian.

 

[Morality Games]

I really hope he isn't going to CDP or Obsidian.

Hope he is, because it would be super funny.

 

[Data4]

Is this an early indication that Bioware is taking steps to improve the quality of it's products?

 

[Gondolin]

Is this an early indication that Bioware is taking steps to improve the quality of it's products?

No, it's a sign that Bioware wants to make more money.

 

[Perkel]

After fishishing The Witcher 3 he said to himself:
" What is this ? How could i stray from path of good ? I am corrupted ! UnWORTHY ! "
He took his pen broke it on his knee hissing loudly, put on his fedora and looked at the door saying this:
" I will make it right !, GODS, I SWEAR IT ! "
Then he looked at his mailbox and started to type: obsidi...@.. , lar... cdp...


No one heard his voice, no one saw him laughing in silence, staring at his monitor,
only his broken pen lying it its own dark blood.