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Corporate clusterfuck at EA

Suchy

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http://ealouse.wordpress.com/2010/10/12 ... /#comments

Hi everyone,

I would think myself to be part of some noble cause, like the original EA Spouse trying to save her husband from a hellish work environment at EA. That had a happy ending, however, with tons of publicity and a total change of overtime wages and salaries and how they are handled within the company. I do not expect a happy ending, so I’ll be personal and selfish, and this is just for me.

So just call me EA Louse.

I found out recently that I will be dismissed from Bioware Mythic during the next round of layoffs EA coming this November. I’m sick of seeing EA outsource their art and find every excuse to get rid of us and still not achieve anything. Mythic is dying, and its not us who killed him but we’re taking the fall.

But if you want to know what really went down with Warhammer, I’ll tell you right now.

First, the project leaders did not know what they were doing. Jeff Hickman was the saddest excuse for a producer I’ve seen. All he did was drink the Koolaid and suck up to the right people. He was the perfect yes-man, and this reached down to almost all managers.

My boss who will not be named, again and again would tell us that Rob Denton, one of the original owners, said we should “do this” and “do that” and we would say “omg it makes NO sense, please explain A, B, and C to him. “And then he’d come back and tell us, after we thought he had gone to talk with him,” No, Rob wants in this way. Jeff agrees, this is what we’re going to do. Understood? ” They never actually talked back to Rob. We didn’t talk back to them.

Rob said jump, our leaders said, “How high?! And on who?”

So we shut up and did what we were told, by people too afraid to tackle real problems. It is a culture of fear, especially since Mark Jacobs was fired.

Oh, he left voluntarily you say? No, he was fired, and everything placed on his shoulders by those closest to him so they could divide his salary and annual bonus. I bet Rob is enjoying that sweet new Maserati he bought after leaving the knife in his partner of 15 years.

Want to know more? Keep reading. I can keep ranting.

Rob was never there during the development of Warhammer. We always joked about when his next weekly holiday was coming. (Answer? Next week!) Mark was not available, was way too head down trying to design his own contributions or whatever. Rob always handled things. We were told NOT to speak with Mark in person, never, or else we would be explaining to Rob.

The coup began long before Warhammer, and Jacobs did not even realize it.

And yet, this is common gossip in the company, and nobody in this industry seems to get it. So get it! Rob was responsible for the entire project, then blamed Mark when things went wrong.

Ah, but could not do it alone. No, he needed Jeff Hickman, promoted from customer service to produce the Warhammer project. Wait, let me let you have that sink in. The man running customer service, on the theory that the management of a large team of CSRs qualified him to run a game development project, was put in charge of a $50 million project with no previous experience.

And he needed Eugene Evans, the man who brought you the almost non-existent marketing campaign behind Warhammer. We could not even believe how bad they fucked up the marketing campaign. There was almost none. We slaved for years, and this is how we were rewarded for it by Eugene and the people of EA? Being told that Warhammer was not “worth” a lot of money spent on it? LOL. Now he’s in charge of Bioware Mythic.

Oh yeah, and he needed Paul Barnett. You know him as the crazy British dude that appears in random videos at EA to promote his latest bullshittery. We know him as the crazy British dude who we have no idea of how he still has a job. This man was supposed to be the savior of Warhammer’s vision and design. Now all he can do is promote his strange ideas about his little secret project web Ultima game that’s been almost universally criticized by all of us and focus groups. What’s that? You didn”t know Paul loves one of those old Ultima games sooooo much he’s making a literal copy of it for Facebook? Well, the cats outta the bag. Too bad it sucks ass.

So what do they all have in common? All of them failed, badly, in Warhammer, and each of them is in a position of authority in the new company, while the rest of us are facing pink slips. How do they sleep at night? They spin aruond, blame everything on Mark, divide his old salary between them, and never speak about it again. Oh, and they fuck us little guys as well.

Almost makes me congratulate them for having the balls, but after watching them work, it’s obvious they don’t have any. They’re cowards running scared trying to hide under the wing of Bioware, now that Rob has become a general manager of EA.

And Bioware? Don’t make me laugh. They’ve spent more money making the Old Republic than James Cameron spent on Avatar. Shit you not. More than $ 300 million! Can you believe that?

And you know what they’re most proud of? This is the kicker. They are most proud of the sound. No seriously. Something like a 20Gig installation, and most of it is voiceover work. That’s the best they have. The rest of the game is a joke. EA knows it and so does George Lucas,they’re panicking , and so most of Mythic has already been cannibalized to work in Austin on it because they can’t keep pushing back launch.

Old Republic will be one of the greatest failures in the history of MMOs from EA. Probably at the level of the Sims Online. We all know it too ……

Anyway, back to Warhammer. We shouldn’t have released when we did, everyone knows it. The game wasn’t done, but EA gave us a deadline and threatened the leaders of Mythic with pink slips. We slipped so many times, it had to go out.

We sold mor ethan a million boxes, and only had 300k subs a month later. Going down every since. It’s “stable” now, but guess what? Even Dark Age and Ultima have more subs than we have. How great is that? Games almost a decade make more money than our biggest project.

So there it is. Rewarding the incompetent. Firing the competent.

I say it anonymously so I can keep my next few paychecks coming.

So I’m a louse. A big fat EA louse.

Want some more questions answered? Ask away.
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FeelTheRads

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And Bioware? Don’t make me laugh. They’ve spent more money making the Old Republic than James Cameron spent on Avatar. Shit you not. More than $ 300 million! Can you believe that?

And you know what they’re most proud of? This is the kicker. They are most proud of the sound. No seriously. Something like a 20Gig installation, and most of it is voiceover work. That’s the best they have. The rest of the game is a joke.

Ahahahahaha. Sounds like the Bioware I know. Or was that Bethesda? Ah, who can tell the difference? :lol:
 

FeelTheRads

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Ed123 said:
Sounds like generic griping from a laid-off drone tbh.

Of course, nobody takes these seriously, it's always "hah, he's just upset he was laid off, I'm sure he's exaggerating" while everything goes to shit because sheeple will put their trust in some high-up dumbfucks.
 
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Sounds normal. Make fail product -> suck cock of the guy above you -> get bonus and promotion -> fire everyone who wasn't sucking enough cock. You can tell the people destined for success by how they start prematurely sucking cock 24/7 before things even go bad.
 

DalekFlay

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Thank God we all fought to make video games big business and have mainstream appeal! Corporations make the best products!

YES.
 

Joghurt

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And Bioware? Don’t make me laugh. They’ve spent more money making the Old Republic than James Cameron spent on Avatar. Shit you not. More than $ 300 million! Can you believe that?

And you know what they’re most proud of? This is the kicker. They are most proud of the sound. No seriously. Something like a 20Gig installation, and most of it is voiceover work. That’s the best they have. The rest of the game is a joke.

This is the best part. I literally laughed out loud when I read this. Can't wait for it to get released and see all the clusterfuck that will be going on the net.

One think I am having hard time to believe is that the budget is 300$ million. Come on. How the fuck can you spend that much on a game? By the way. Does anybody know just out of curiosity and to compare - how much did WoW cost to develop?
 

Sceptic

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FeelTheRads said:
Of course, nobody takes these seriously, it's always "hah, he's just upset he was laid off, I'm sure he's exaggerating" while everything goes to shit because sheeple will put their trust in some high-up dumbfucks.
The point is that a laid-off butthurt drone is as likely to be making shit up as a high-up dumbfuck. I see no reason to take either's word at face value.

This is why EA_spouse was such an interesting thing. First it wasn't written by the employee himself, and second he wasn't being laid off. This is just a pale imitation, "I'm going to drag the people who fired me in the mud." Everything he said may be true, but the circumstances that pushed him to make the post are suspicious. Now if he'd made the post BEFORE being told he would be fired...
 

DalekFlay

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Joghurt said:
This is the best part. I literally laughed out loud when I read this. Can't wait for it to get released and see all the clusterfuck that will be going on the net.

One think I am having hard time to believe is that the budget is 300$ million. Come on. How the fuck can you spend that much on a game? By the way. Does anybody know just out of curiosity and to compare - how much did WoW cost to develop?

Not sure about WoW but there have been several 100+ million dollar games made. It is certainly feasible that EA would be stupid enough to double that for a "WoW killer" and then go 30% over-budget.

I really think the Star Wars name and KotOR connection will help that service break even at least though.
 

Turisas

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Maybe the sum includes the server infrastructure and what not? That shit ain't cheap.
 
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Turisas said:
Maybe the sum includes the server infrastructure and what not? That shit ain't cheap.

I'm sure they haven't even bought that yet. Game doesn't come out till next mid next year AFAIK.
 

Cenobyte

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One thing that bugs me to no end about TOR are those extremely frequent delays of the release date. I mean, how long is this game now officially announced and how often has it been pushed back since then?

Even at this years' Gamescom, they could only present a demo movie, completely different to nearly all other upcoming MMORPGs, who were directly playable for the most part. And this game is supposed to finally come out next year?
 

DalekFlay

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They probably only show CGI movies because the gameplay looks boring as fuck on the rare occasions they show it.
 

FeelTheRads

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I haven't done that, but you'd have to be a very special kind of blind retard to believe the things he said don't happen.
 

Lesifoere

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DalekFlay said:
They probably only show CGI movies because the gameplay looks boring as fuck on the rare occasions they show it.

From what I've seen of gameplay vids, not only is it boring as fuck, it also looks like shit.

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Very next-next-gen. $300 million and this is what they came up with?
 

MetalCraze

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Looks like WoW with Lightsabers.

Silellak said:
EA buys and destroys another independent developer. Shocking.

Bioware = independent developer? LOL
They weren't one long before EA bought them
 

made

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Heh, this has been all over the web today. What's funny, he only mentions TOR in passing, yet everywhere fanboys jump at him for "bashing" the game like that's all he talked about.
 

MetalCraze

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Ed123 said:
This thread reminds me of the heady days when it was EA and not Bobby Kotick who constituted public enemy no.1 for "us gamers".

Bobby Kotick is an arch-enemy for us gamers that's why I keep buying his Starcrafts and Modern Warfares
 
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Joghurt said:
One think I am having hard time to believe is that the budget is 300$ million. Come on. How the fuck can you spend that much on a game? By the way. Does anybody know just out of curiosity and to compare - how much did WoW cost to develop?

'This is Vegas' cost about 50 million dollars to make and was originally slated to come out for the PC, XBOX 360 and PS3. It was pretty much done and then Midway went broke. Warner Bros got ahold of them and the game...and then just said 'nah'.
 

fizzelopeguss

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Whole thing is a giant elevation partners ponzi scheme, 800 mil on bioware, another 300 million on this shit? They're bleeding EA dry and raping the dried up husk.

Also The budget will include marketing, MW2 for example had a marketing campaign of 200 million dollars alone.
 

Silellak

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MetalCraze said:
Looks like WoW with Lightsabers.

Silellak said:
EA buys and destroys another independent developer. Shocking.

Bioware = independent developer? LOL
They weren't one long before EA bought them
Bioware? Who said anything about Bioware? I was thinking about Origin and Westwood Studios, among others.
 

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