Inactive Conquests of the Longbow

[Wyrmlord]

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Well, I'll be sneaking into town to meet Lobb in the next update.

Tagging Infinitron, SCO, felipepepe, Sceptic, anus_pounder, ghostdog, Crooked Bee, commie, aweigh, and Andyman Messiah on any advice for a first-timer on this game.

I am playing this game blind, and I hope I don't make a mess of it!

Search reveals you are the only ones to have discussed this game here, so I hoped one of you would help nudge me along here!

 

[felipepepe]

Search reveals you are the only ones to have discussed this game here

It was on the Top 100 Adventure Games of all time list, but I've never seen it until now....you're doing a goob job bro, but add some explanations or remarks on some points. I didn't really get the combat (you just clkick on the guy and he dies?), or that first-person bow shooting part...and probably make the updates smaller, or this thread will be unscrollable soon.

 

[Norfleet]

Yeah, or use those spoiler tags that have been going around. This thread was already unscrollable. I had to force-stop it just to make it HOLD STILL.

 

[Infinitron]

It's been many years since I played this, but I'll say a few things:

1) It can be easy to screw up your game. Save early, save often, yadda yadda.
2) There's some C&C in this game! And multiple ways of achieving certain objectives. A rare thing for an adventure game. Try to experiment.
3) Always be on the lookout for new events in the world. You already know where to find them.

I didn't really get the combat (you just clkick on the guy and he dies?)

Yes. There is no combat engine, just a hit-the-bullseye target archery minigame.

 

[Crooked Bee]

Wyrmlord, just FYI, LP != image dump.

As for the game itself, apart from the fact that, well, this is a Sierra game so the usual trappings apply, I don't have anything to add. Been too long since I played it last.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

Fucking tags.

Here's my advice for playing this game:

Save early, save often

Same as with every old Sierra adventure game.

Here's my advice for LPing this game: do not PICTUREPICTUREPICTUREPICTUREPICTUREPICTURE. I don't give a fuck how nice the screenshots look.

 

[ghostdog]

I've been wanting to play this game.

As for the LP... come on wyrmie, you know the score, don't just dump pic after pic. Write some stuff down, descriptions, comments about what you're doing, transcribe some dialog maybe, in order for it to have better pace. As it is now it hurts the eyes. Your BaK LP , even if it was a bit chaotic, was much better structured.

 

[Tigranes]

Played it a year or two ago, loved it - good writing and stands up well for a point and click adventure. Keep going, just... yeah, make it an LP.

Save, C&C, try everything you can in every order you can, there's one forest area that is really annoying but in general the puzzles are sensible.

 

[SCO]

It's a interesting game. It has a 'optimal' course through it as usual, but unlike most sierra games a non-optimal course will change the ending and some of the game slightly.

To be 'optimal' you have to think like the stereotypical Robin Hood: don't lose a opportunity to be generous to the poor, steal all you can from the rich, save all your friends, get it together with Marion, do risky infiltrations.

I'm also pretty sure a LP was already done here.

 

[commie]

Just remember to equip the ring....when the time comes of course, and NOT before.




Seriously though bro, this is one of the few(many?)Sierra adventures that passed me so I won't be any help.

 

[Guido Fawkes]

Would you be interested in LPing "Conquests of Camelot" instead? It is from the same designer and much less known than Longbow. I never played it and I assume most folks here haven't either. Wonder if it is as good.

Here's my advice for playing this game:

Save early, save often

Same as with every old Sierra adventure game..

Either this or use a walkthrough.

The game is very good and I remember enjoying it a lot. A jewel of Sierra indeed. Only criticism I have of it is that it makes a mess of the Robin Hood legend in many ways, though I guess many appreciate the originality.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Entertaining read, even if it took me half an hour!

 

[abnaxus]

Anyone ever tried to shoot Marian? Is it an immediate game over?

 

[Wyrmlord]

Anyone ever tried to shoot Marian? Is it an immediate game over?

Well, I have been trying to see for the past two days what outrageous things I can make Robin do. Or how I can get him killed.

Robin refuses to kill innocents. Always. I have not been able to make him kill anyone who was not supposed to be killed.

However, when Robin shoots an arrow at the Tree of Life, the Tree of Life comes alive and kills him. When Robin enters the city and attacks the guards or gets himself seen, he is quartered soon after. So it is possible to get killed in this game, but only if you really try hard to do something stupid despite repeated warnings not to do so.

 

[Wyrmlord]

I've been wanting to play this game.

As for the LP... come on wyrmie, you know the score, don't just dump pic after pic. Write some stuff down, descriptions, comments about what you're doing, transcribe some dialog maybe, in order for it to have better pace. As it is now it hurts the eyes. Your BaK LP , even if it was a bit chaotic, was much better structured.

Indeed, to make amends based on the suggestions you guys have given, it might do some good to show - before the next update - how exactly this game works.

CotLB requires you to be a full fledged forest ranger. The game leaves you in the massive forest of Nottingham-shire, but at any given point of time, you can see only one tiny part of the whole forest. Therefore, you have to memorize landmarks and directions to know what is where. All the time, you must keep a mental note of where you are in the forest.

For example, suppose I wish to find the Willow's Grove landmark. After several trial and error attempts, I discovered I could reach the Willow's Grove by following West, West, West, South, South, South, South, South, and East from Robin's camp. This is what travelling in the game looks like:

Starting point:

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Those can be pretty tricky directions to remember. Go one click too far south or one click less west than you should and you miss the place. The same place can be reached by going SW, SW, SW, S, S, S, or maybe S, S, S, S, W, W. But this game really makes you feel so lost in the forest that you don't want to risk using new directions other than the ones you used the first time. There is no map to tell you where you currently are in the forest. CRAZY!

It's quite close to what it felt like when you travel the Elvandar forest in Betrayal at Krondor. And maybe a little bit of what Dungeon Master feels like.

 

[ghostdog]

Does it have a speed option in the menu ? If so you could map the area pretty fast, like in the QFG games.

 

[Guido Fawkes]

Afaik there is indeed a map button, check the interface. It is only a few areas of the game(i.e: the part with catching the little green guy) where you have to memorize locations and walk through mazes of sorts.

 

[Wyrmlord]

New update

Spoiler

The last we left off, Robin Hood was trying to find a way to meet Lobb in the city, with the pink slipper he received from Marion Mourn to be used as a token.

He will be killed on the spot if he entered the city.

But his luck comes in the form of a beggar. His clothes might come useful.

Jestingly, Robin Hood pretends to be a highway bandit.

By now, the beggar really seems to believe Robin Hood is about to rob him.

Time to drop the pretense.

We give the beggar some money.

This is when Robin's friends appear, as they always do.

Keeping prudence in mind, Robin can not afford to have his cover blown. If anyone finds out that the beggar gave his clothes to an outlaw, all the guards in Nottingham will be searching for Robin disguised as a vagabond.

Now that Robin is disguised...

...we send him to Nottingham.

I believe Lobb might be in the shack to the right, so I go there.

As I remember, he needs to be shown a pink slipper.

In the conversation that follows, Lobb tells us that Prince John, in order to prevent Richard the Lionheart from coming back home, is secretly stealing the funds raised for Lionheart's ransom. The Sheriff and Abbot of Nottingham are hiding and stashing those funds to make sure they never reach the King of Austria.

Robin's job is to recover those funds and give them back to the Queen.

Robin returns home for a chat with his company, in the usual night time drinking and eating session.

He admits quite frankly that, at this moment, he is much more interested in Marion Mourn than getting his king back home

On the next day, Robin heads straight for the Willow Grove, where he first dreamed of Marion Mourn. He gets to see her in person.

We learn that the elite guard of Prince John are currently masquerading as monks of the Abbot of Nottingham. While one of those soldier-monks was beating Marion to an inch of her life, another monk had stolen a scroll from her, which is somehow of some importance.

It's now Robin's chance to surprise Marion with the emerald he received in his dream. I take it out of my inventory and show it to Marion.

Cool, so now Robin and Marion are engaged. Now to get back to usual Robin Hood business.

Again, Robin confronts a member of the guard, but this one is less of a corrupt official and more of a man dedicated to enforcing the law no matter what. Robin sympathises a little with him, and treats him with a little more respect.

Robin's friends show up.

Before we are through, Robin hands some money to the peasants, for some extra points, of course.

Now to top the day off with another night's supper.

Tomorrow, we recover the scroll for Marion. But for now, we rest.

 

[ironyuri]

Another image dump, good job.

 

[SerratedBiz]

This is a very Wyrmlordian LP.

That said, this is a great game. You can't possibly go wrong in just playing it and screwing up where you must - part of the appeal (as in other Sierra games) is seeing all the different kinds of deaths available.

If it's your first time playing and you use a walkthrough, you're a moron.

 

[Absalom]

I never got around to playing this, so I'll be definitely following this.

Maid Marion said:
"...Blessed Lady, the Virgin Queen of Heaven whom I serve..."; "I'm a priestess of the ancient powers"

So is she a pagan or not? That could be interesting.

 

[Wyrmlord]

Any experts of Nines Men Morris here?

Ulminati, Grunker, and other board games fans here, can you give tips on Nines Men Morris?

I want to get a perfect score, which includes winning all games of Nines Men Morris. So I need some schooling on Nines Men Morris.

IDtenT, you are South African. Search reveals Nines Men Morris is very popular in your country. Do you know any tips on winning Nines Men Morris?

 

[Ulminati]

I'm afraid I haven't played Mølle (danish version of 9 men morris) since I was in kindergarden.
I prefer my games with more complex rules these days, with Go being a notable exception.

 

[Grunker]

Sorry, I'm almost only "an expert" it the big strategy games like Axis & Allies, Twillight Imperium, that kindda stuff. And some other, more gimmicky board-games. The oldschool stuff I'm not a huge fan of, sorry.

 

[ghostdog]

At last, a robin hood with a full, manly beard.