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Why? Wouldn't it be cool to finally have VR that works?If you want to embarrass Metro, you can just randomly quote mine his "Build me a PC" thread. In any case, I hope he is right.
Why? Wouldn't it be cool to finally have VR that works?If you want to embarrass Metro, you can just randomly quote mine his "Build me a PC" thread. In any case, I hope he is right.
Why? Wouldn't it be cool to finally have VR that works?If you want to embarrass Metro, you can just randomly quote mine his "Build me a PC" thread. In any case, I hope he is right.
I am lazy and I play computer games because I am lazy - I bought a laptop so I can play games in bed. Anything that implies actual physical movement irritates me.Why? Wouldn't it be cool to finally have VR that works?If you want to embarrass Metro, you can just randomly quote mine his "Build me a PC" thread. In any case, I hope he is right.
It's basically like working on a job and earning experience while doing it. Then leave the company and get sued for using your experience on a new job
This is the basis of that employer-employee relationship known as the "post-doc".
EDIT: also, remember that ZeniMax's board is staffed by a lot of Entertainment (w/ a capital E) and Hollywood bigwigs, and litigious is often their middle name. The MPAA suits through the early to mid 2000s show how butthurt the studios and principle investors can get.
The burden of proof is never on the defendant.I've heard of some pretty crazy contracts that try and do just that, actually. And either way he would have to prove he never worked on that stuff on company time, or that Occulus never used what he did work on. And Zenimax say they have a written confession of the opposite, so... like I said, could get interesting.
The burden of proof is never on the defendant.I've heard of some pretty crazy contracts that try and do just that, actually. And either way he would have to prove he never worked on that stuff on company time, or that Occulus never used what he did work on. And Zenimax say they have a written confession of the opposite, so... like I said, could get interesting.
Carmack: I wrote that on my time off.Zenimax say they have a written confession that some of the code written under their watch was being used. I imagine Carmack is going to have to refute that written statement somehow. The burden of casting doubt on Zenimax's evidence is on him.
Carmack: I wrote that on my time off.Zenimax say they have a written confession that some of the code written under their watch was being used. I imagine Carmack is going to have to refute that written statement somehow. The burden of casting doubt on Zenimax's evidence is on him.
Judge: Does Zenimax has proof that Carmack was working on this during time paid for by Bethesda?
Carmack: I wrote that on my time off.Zenimax say they have a written confession that some of the code written under their watch was being used. I imagine Carmack is going to have to refute that written statement somehow. The burden of casting doubt on Zenimax's evidence is on him.
Judge: Does Zenimax has proof that Carmack was working on this during time paid for by Bethesda?
Does it really work that way? If a lawyer works at a large law firm then he doesn't really have 'off hours.' That is, he can't take on his own clients in his spare time. Obviously programming is a little different but it depends on how his contract is worded. I can easily see it including all programming work created by an individual during the length of the contract.
How does stuff like GitHub work then? Is this some kind of corporate slavery or what?His leverage/clout doesn't seem to relevant. It would be odd to see an employment contract that partitioned 'work' product and 'funsies-time' product. Especially for programmers who often work odd hours. Anyway, Zenimax will win. Why? They have far more money to spend on legal fees than OR.
Carmark wasn't really a programmer anymore at id. He was an executive.His leverage/clout doesn't seem to relevant. It would be odd to see an employment contract that partitioned 'work' product and 'funsies-time' product. Especially for programmers who often work odd hours. Anyway, Zenimax will win. Why? They have far more money to spend on legal fees than OR.
Anyway, Zenimax will win. Why? They have far more money to spend on legal fees than OR.
Touche. Forgot about that.Anyway, Zenimax will win. Why? They have far more money to spend on legal fees than OR.
Uh, hello. Facebook.
Carmack: I wrote that on my time off.Zenimax say they have a written confession that some of the code written under their watch was being used. I imagine Carmack is going to have to refute that written statement somehow. The burden of casting doubt on Zenimax's evidence is on him.
Judge: Does Zenimax has proof that Carmack was working on this during time paid for by Bethesda?
Does it really work that way? If a lawyer works at a large law firm then he doesn't really have 'off hours.' That is, he can't take on his own clients in his spare time. Obviously programming is a little different but it depends on how his contract is worded. I can easily see it including all programming work created by an individual during the length of the contract.
Milton Bradley was sued by two men, Alan Coleman and Roger Burten, who claimed to have presented the original concept for Dark Tower to Milton Bradley in the late 1970s, at which point, MB declined to pursue it, but thereafter "independently" developed the game.[8] One of the Dark Tower game designers claims the court's decision was unfair.[9] As part of the resolution of the lawsuit, Milton Bradley pulled the game off the market, and it was never republished.
While that might technically be true I'm sure they didn't hire him to manage the finances or handle human resources. He's an idea man. And it's entirely possible the contract is worded as such that anything he came up with while under their employ is their property. While that might sound draconian/slavish let's remember that guys like Carmack are being paid precisely for that: their ideas/brainstorming/intellectual output.Carmark wasn't really a programmer anymore at id. He was an executive.
I'm pretty sure he didn't want to run id anymore. So he sold his company to Bethesda and found something interesting to work on.He's the most famous games programmer in history. He would name his conditions.
What I can't figure out, is why he wanted to work for them in the first place. He's not exactly poor.
I'm pretty sure he didn't want to run id anymore. So he sold his company to Bethesda and found something interesting to work on.He's the most famous games programmer in history. He would name his conditions.
What I can't figure out, is why he wanted to work for them in the first place. He's not exactly poor.
Takes off... with shitty Facebook-type applications? Be sure to bronze that shit in your sig.Preserving this quote for the future, once the Rift takes off I'll put it in my .sigOculus is going to be DOA, why bother?
Carmark wasn't really a programmer anymore at id. He was an executive.His leverage/clout doesn't seem to relevant. It would be odd to see an employment contract that partitioned 'work' product and 'funsies-time' product. Especially for programmers who often work odd hours. Anyway, Zenimax will win. Why? They have far more money to spend on legal fees than OR.