C&C

[kingcomrade]

In my mind, one of the greatest crimes in the strategy genre was the C&C style of strategy game, because they held SO MUCH promise.
It started with Dune 2, and basically only the graphics got better from there. It wasn't until really late in the series that they even allowed you to queue up unit builds. The games don't have much balance, the units themselves are a pain to use.
The latest, they've completely abandoned their old model of resources, and now the C&C series has become incredibly generic with the Generals.

Personally, I liked Red Alert 1 & 2 and I absolutely loved the Dune games, but I can't bring myself to actually play them. The idea of spice harvesters that get picked up and shuttled about on automated carryalls, the sandworms, etc. appeal to me so much, it's really too bad that they suck.
I just got Dune 2000 and Emperor Battle of Dune or something like that. Dune 2000 is basically C&C with Dune units. I haven't played Emperor, but its supposedly different from the originals. I'll get back to you, but man I wish they would make a worthwhile Dune game.

 

[LlamaGod]

C&C sucks

 

[Naked_Lunch]

Personally, I liked Red Alert 1 & 2 and I absolutely loved the Dune games, but I can't bring myself to actually play them.

What?

 

[kingcomrade]

I like them. They're really cool games with interesting ideas and great settings, but they aren't fun to play.

 

[spacemoose]

In the same vein, I've recently tried Emperor of the Fading Suns and I love the setting - its a sort of Urth-of-the-New-Sun scenario, where humans had a vast galactic empire once, but it has now fractured, degenerated and most of the knowlege has been lost. So you still have some starships and can use them, but don't have the tech to build any more. You lead a noble house with the goal being to get yourself elected regent, and declare yourself emperor. Most people here probably know about it, since it's on underdogs and was in your abandonware thread, Kingcomarade.

So I love the setting, but the combat is terrible - its hex based, and you can only attack a hex from one other hex, there are no leader traits, no combat events, terrain bonuses are incorrect. I've been spoiled by Hearts of Iron, and no matter how I try I can't enjoy this game.

 

[roguefrog]

C&C was king in the early RTS days. Give me C&C and Red Alert over Warcraft 1&2 anyday. Then the heavy hitter came out. Total Annihilation and Starcraft, and line was drawn.

 

[Jinxed]

I still play the original dune 2 on dosbox sometimes. Waiting on Star Wars: Empire At War

 

[Vival]

I loved C&C and Red Alert on small lan-parties with friends, despite the unimpressive unit balancing (i.e. battleships in RA) and the lack of strategy depth compared to Starcraft. It was somewhat similar to Doom1+2 which just were plain more fun in multiplay than the slower Quake. Could be nostalgia, i guess.

 

[LlamaGod]

C&C was king in the early RTS days. Give me C&C and Red Alert over Warcraft 1&2 anyday. Then the heavy hitter came out. Total Annihilation and Starcraft, and line was drawn.

Total Annihilation is okay, the rest suck. TA can be fun, but there is such a lack of strategy. I do like it's method of resources, though. But good modern RTSes have progressed past that to a higher degree (Kohan)