Company News Brian Fargo talks about inXile's plans for Van Buren at Eurogamer

[Latro]

does romance exist in a post-humanity setting? probably not

HIRE ME AVELLONE

 

[Latro]

So what if Brian wants to do a fallout game, and is thinking of approaching Bethesda and doing a turn-based fallout game. Perhaps using VB as a guideline?

depends on how offended bethesda/zenimax is/was by obsidian complaining about them getting screwed over. I don't think they'd actually care, it'd probably come down to contractual agreements (I'm assuming obsidian will refuse to get fucked this time)

 

[Infinitron]

The problem isn't Bethesda-Obsidian. The problem is Bethesda-inXile.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/08/15/brian-fargo-on-inxiles-darkest-publisher-driven-days/

 

[Metro]

So what if Brian wants to do a fallout game, and is thinking of approaching Bethesda and doing a turn-based fallout game. Perhaps using VB as a guideline?

Wasn't VB about Caesar's Legion? Todd would insist it happen after the events of New Vegas!

Also Hunted was awful. Uninstalled after about three hours.

 

[Jaesun]

The problem isn't Bethesda-Obsidian. The problem is Bethesda-inXile.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/08/15/brian-fargo-on-inxiles-darkest-publisher-driven-days/

Well then it will be a joint Obsidian/inXile game, but Obsidian will handle all the talking with Bethesda. EVERYBODY WINS!

 

[Metro]

Obsidian is really good at accepting shitty contracts.

 

[valcik]

So what if Brian wants to do a fallout game, and is thinking of approaching Bethesda and doing a turn-based fallout game. Perhaps using VB as a guideline?

Sounds good, except that inXile can't make proper hexagon based grid, using Shadowrun-like colourful squares instead. Compromises and simplifications everywhere!

 

[Pirata Alma Negra]

Just another name that signifies nothing, to Fargo take money from fools grognards and do another crap game.

 

[VioletShadow]

The problem isn't Bethesda-Obsidian. The problem is Bethesda-inXile.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/08/15/brian-fargo-on-inxiles-darkest-publisher-driven-days/

Well then it will be a joint Obsidian/inXile game, but Obsidian will handle all the talking with Bethesda. EVERYBODY WINS!

This could work out!

Spoiler

 

[Zeronet]

So what if Brian wants to do a fallout game, and is thinking of approaching Bethesda and doing a turn-based fallout game. Perhaps using VB as a guideline?

depends on how offended bethesda/zenimax is/was by obsidian complaining about them getting screwed over. I don't think they'd actually care, it'd probably come down to contractual agreements (I'm assuming obsidian will refuse to get fucked this time)

Did Obsidian themselves ever complain? I thought it was mostly gaming media and Obsidian were like 'yeah, it was disappointing not to get the money'. Brian made the point that QA was Zenimax/Bethesda.

 

[tuluse]

Did Obsidian themselves ever complain? I thought it was mostly gaming media and Obsidian were like 'yeah, it was disappointing not to get the money'. Brian made the point that QA was Zenimax/Bethesda.

Obsidian doesn't complain about people they hope will give them future contracts.

 

[naossano]

Nobody except Tim Cain himself can make proper Fallout game.

Even he would say you're giving him too much credit.

A lot of the things a lot of people don't like in Fallout 2 were Tim Cain's ideas.

There is a difference between an idea and its execution.
The Enclave itself and the vault experiments aren't bad ideas. What is an issue is that they rushed the endgame because they split the team into areas, without a strong leadership for the main road.

Another idea that wasn't bad on paper but awfull in execution was Harold fate... But sadly, it wasn't because of rushed ending...

 

[Ovplain]

:S

 

[Roguey]

What I value the most is good gameplay and deep, complex mechanics

In Fallout?

 

[valcik]

Yes, first Fallout was a pretty good game in comparison to others published back in 1997. Too bad they've lost GURPS license, that was serious hit under the belt! Heck, even that simple invetory system was much better than this modern MS Excel-like bethesdian abomination optimised for gamepad. Great interactivity with objects and characters, aesthetically perfect and visually original, to the last detail polished game. Made from scratch, including engine, mind you! Sure it cannot compete with some nerdy stuff like JA2, great game anyway.
And Arcanum? Now that's some serious craftsmanship in terms of deep and complex mechanics. Made from scratch, including engine, once again.

edit: inb4 grognard tag get plastered over me

 

[Burning Bridges]

inXile is about nothing but quality, not quantity.
/irony

 

[Burning Bridges]

Also couldn't he simply hire someone who's last name is Van Buren? Afaik no one can trademark your last name.

 

[imweasel]

I'd put my bet in some kind of spin-off for Wasteland's universe.

A Fallout clone set in the Wasteland universe sounds quite likely to me. Wasteland 2 is a good game, but i'm sure Brian knows by now that what everybody truly wants is a Fallout 1 clone.

I'm not really sure what he wants to do with the Van Buren trademark though.

 

[Jaesun]

In before MCA goes to work for inXile.

 

[Dehumanizer]

One of the eye-catching ideas Black Isle had for Van Buren was that the player would run into other players in the game world. You'd have a series of rivals that weren't necessarily enemies - more parties you would compete against, with different goals. They weren't necessarily evil, but they would have a different agenda. You would run into conflict with them over the course of the game.

Now where have I seen that before?

 

[DawnrazorDCLXVI]

Bethesda lawsuit incoming.

Bethesda butthurt incoming MOARLIEK.

 

[hexer]

what's up with that classy fan-made Van Buren remake? Is it still alive?

I am much more excited about Hexer's upcoming project. (more than any upcoming commercial game)

Hi bros! The news reached me today so I'm here to clarify. The work on fan-made Van Buren hasn't stopped but it slowed down. I am totally focused on my private business and it's going pretty good. Things are getting better every day. Plus I'm still at my old work so I have almost no free time. The idea behind the private business is that I earn money and return with it to Van Buren. What we were doing before is pure fan love for the game and it would be a waste to leave it unfinished. I would be happy if Chris manages to make Van Buren a reality :D

 

[ROARRR]

what's up with that classy fan-made Van Buren remake? Is it still alive?

I am much more excited about Hexer's upcoming project. (more than any upcoming commercial game)

Hi bros! The news reached me today so I'm here to clarify. The work on fan-made Van Buren hasn't stopped but it slowed down. I am totally focused on my private business and it's going pretty good. Things are getting better every day. Plus I'm still at my old work so I have almost no free time. The idea behind the private business is that I earn money and return with it to Van Buren. What we were doing before is pure fan love for the game and it would be a waste to leave it unfinished. I would be happy if Chris manages to make Van Buren a reality :D

I love you man!

 

[naossano]

I hope you will blast other current post-apocalyptic games.

 

[hexer]