Spark Mandriller
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Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that.Tolknaz said:freedom of speech
Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that.Tolknaz said:freedom of speech
I think the difference here is that here we have some fairly concrete evidence that can't be just handwaved away by the derp crowd.Antihero said:It's foolish of them, but a couple of BioWare employees pissing into a maelstrom is somehow worse than the entire farce of most professional game reviews anyway (which Metacritic helps perpetuate), who have a much bigger effect and influence?
Oh yeah? How does it work then? I'm not speaking about how they treat flaming or spamming, but cases such as this:Spark Mandriller said:Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that.
Spark Mandriller said:Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that.Tolknaz said:freedom of speech
It works by you can say what the fuck you want and they can't stop you. They're not stopping you. They aren't helping you, but that's not exactly the same fucking thing now is it? Letting people post on their forums is a service, if they want to stop providing that service for any reason they want they can do that. If they want to stop providing it for no reason at all they can still do that. Being allowed to post on forums isn't exactly a human right bro.Tolknaz said:Oh yeah? How does it work then?/
Tolknaz said:Oh yeah? How does it work then? I'm not speaking about how they treat flaming or spamming, but cases such as this:Spark Mandriller said:Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that.
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FixedOvg said:That's how it is, like we say in GLORIOUS potatoland "a bird shitting in his own nest is a bad bird". And with untermenschen like Woo, or whatever the kike's name is, what can you expect?
herostratus said:Let me let out a big fat "meh". If there was an organized effort by bioware to post positive reviews on metacritic, and they asked all of their employees to do so, there would be many, many more. Remember there's like, what, a hundred people working at DA2 and that one of them gets pissy by the low scores and posts one himself is not really very surprising and does not alter the score much. And there is some truth to the EA defense as well - he might very well actually *like* the game.
Blackadder said:herostratus said:Let me let out a big fat "meh". If there was an organized effort by bioware to post positive reviews on metacritic, and they asked all of their employees to do so, there would be many, many more. Remember there's like, what, a hundred people working at DA2 and that one of them gets pissy by the low scores and posts one himself is not really very surprising and does not alter the score much. And there is some truth to the EA defense as well - he might very well actually *like* the game.
Perception is everything. This may be a small nail, but a nail nontheless. What you say may be true, but it doesn't matter, because many will perceive the action to be shady and disingenuous. Instead of looking at this by itself, add it on to all the other stupidities that Bioware has been conducting and the overall picture doesn't look good.
herostratus said:Remember there's like, what, a hundred people working at DA2 and that one of them gets pissy by the low scores and posts one himself is not really very surprising and does not alter the score much. And there is some truth to the EA defense as well - he might very well actually *like* the game.
fixed that for ya.piydek said:Except this doesn't really matter when it comes to the issue. The issue is that metacritic scores are perceived as "of the people, for the people". This guy is a developer voting for the game he was involved in making. That's conflict of interest. This reminds me of practice of most politicians everywhere. Bioware developer voting on Bioware game on metacritic is NOT a private person voting on a game. This is by definition illegitimate practice. No amount of "perceptions" and relativization changes that. That's shitty neocon bullshit ideology.
Shannow said:Personally I expect PR-types, politicians, girlfriends, disclaimers, corporations, reviews, news and all the rest to be honest with me. If they fail to do so (as they invariably will) I will call them on their bullshit and make them feel the consequences where I can.
Alexandros said:Hasn't this been pretty much common practice for ages?
I don't get what you argue here.DragoFireheart said:Blackadder said:herostratus said:Let me let out a big fat "meh". If there was an organized effort by bioware to post positive reviews on metacritic, and they asked all of their employees to do so, there would be many, many more. Remember there's like, what, a hundred people working at DA2 and that one of them gets pissy by the low scores and posts one himself is not really very surprising and does not alter the score much. And there is some truth to the EA defense as well - he might very well actually *like* the game.
Perception is everything. This may be a small nail, but a nail nontheless. What you say may be true, but it doesn't matter, because many will perceive the action to be shady and disingenuous. Instead of looking at this by itself, add it on to all the other stupidities that Bioware has been conducting and the overall picture doesn't look good.
Exactly. Reality has never mattered and only the perception of reality is what matters.
Metacritic scores have the same deficiencies as all other internet polls and are meant to be taken with a grain of salt. It was never a bastion of truth and objectivity.Except this doesn't really matter when it comes to the issue. The issue is that metacritic scores are perceived as "of the people, for the people".
Dunno what neocon ideology has to do with this tbh...This is by definition illegitimate practice. No amount of "perceptions" and relativization changes that. That's shitty neocon bullshit ideology.
I'm not talking about the public perception of this, I'm talking about *our*, the codexian collective's perception of this. Hopefully, at least a few of you consider the facts of the case more important than the public perception of it when making up your opinions about it.
As it should be. The moment everyone's posts contain "I agree", "Me as well" I'm gone.Pablosdog said:There is much in-fighting in the codex; most posters revile at least one other poster. When I think of the codex I think of that scene in the first twenty minutes of 2001 with the rival ape groups combating each other.