Beamdog working on a new D&D CRPG (cancelled)

[rusty_shackleford]

RPG fans are the worst.

Breivik isn't Christian.

What gave it away? Was it the mass murder? :D

Him saying he's not.
https://www.vl.no/nyhet/breivik-jeg-er-ikke-kristen-1.465538?paywall=true

As opposed to his manifesto that says otherwise over and over and over and over again?

no?
"If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform."

 

[Luckmann]

no?

Yes.

"My parents, being rather secular wanted to give me the choice in regards to religion. At the age of 15 I chose to be baptised and confirmed in the Norwegian State Church. I consider myself to be 100% Christian. However, I strongly object to the current suicidal path of the Catholic Church but especially the Protestant Church. [...] We must have a Church leadership who supports a future Crusade with the intention of liberating the Balkans, Anatolia and creating three Christian states in the Middle East. Efforts should be made to facilitate the de-construction of the Protestant Church whose members should convert back to Catholicism. [...] I fully support that the Church gains more or less monopoly on religion in Europe (government policies, school curriculum etc at least) in addition to granting the Church several concessions which have been taken from them the last decades." - page 1403 (or 1404, by .pdf page number).

I had this shit mailed to me, I actually had to skim through it. Breivik is (A) legitimately retarded, (B) a fucking nutter of epic proportions and his words at any one time should not be taken as indicative of anything but whatever ideas he happened to wake up with that morning, and (C) Christian (or believed himself to be at the time). He is/was a right-wing christian conservative and liberal HBTQ-rights activist and terrorist, not an ethnic nationalist or third-positionist of any kind, nor any form of pagan. Anything he says in his current circumstance can be considered nothing more than deflection and should be treated as deeply suspect in relation to the things he actually did and actually pledged his allegiance to as he did those things.

There's a reason Breivik was never part of any Scandinavian nationalist group or partook in any nationalist discussions, whereas he was very active within anti-Jihadist and cultural conservative circles, was a member of the Freemasons, and the Progress Party; and that's quite simply because that's where his loyalties lie.

To suggest that he was playing some kind of long con for over 10 years and then decided to suddenly break it and become an avowed national socialist pagan third-positionist after the attacks did not explode into the Christian European crusade called for in the manifesto is beyond ridiculous.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

RPG fans are the worst.

Breivik isn't Christian.

What gave it away? Was it the mass murder? :D

Him saying he's not.
https://www.vl.no/nyhet/breivik-jeg-er-ikke-kristen-1.465538?paywall=true

As opposed to his manifesto that says otherwise over and over and over and over again?

no?
"If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform."

Yes.

"My parents, being rather secular wanted to give me the choice in regards to religion. At the age of 15 I chose to be baptised and confirmed in the Norwegian State Church. I consider myself to be 100% Christian. However, I strongly object to the current suicidal path of the Catholic Church but especially the Protestant Church. [...] We must have a Church leadership who supports a future Crusade with the intention of liberating the Balkans, Anatolia and creating three Christian states in the Middle East. Efforts should be made to facilitate the de-construction of the Protestant Church whose members should convert back to Catholicism. [...] I fully support that the Church gains more or less monopoly on religion in Europe (government policies, school curriculum etc at least) in addition to granting the Church several concessions which have been taken from them the last decades." - page 1403 (or 1404, by .pdf page number).

I had this shit mailed to me, I actually had to skim through it. Breivik is (A) legitimately retarded, (B) a fucking nutter of epic proportions and his words at any one time should not be taken as indicative of anything but whatever ideas he happened to wake up with that morning, and (C) Christian (or believed himself to be at the time). He is/was a right-wing christian conservative and liberal HBTQ-rights activist and terrorist, not an ethnic nationalist or third-positionist of any kind, nor any form of pagan. Anything he says in his current circumstance can be considered nothing more than deflection and should be treated as deeply suspect in relation to the things he actually did and actually pledged his allegiance to as he did those things.

There's a reason Breivik was never part of any Scandinavian nationalist group or partook in any nationalist discussions, whereas he was very active within anti-Jihadist and cultural conservative circles, was a member of the Freemasons, and the Progress Party; and that's quite simply because that's where his loyalties lie.

To suggest that he was playing some kind of long con for over 10 years and then decided to suddenly break it and become an avowed national socialist pagan third-positionist after the attacks did not explode into the Christian European crusade called for in the manifesto is beyond ridiculous.

that quote was from his manifesto…
pg. 1308

 

[fantadomat]

RPG fans are the worst.

Breivik isn't Christian.

What gave it away? Was it the mass murder? :D

Him saying he's not.
https://www.vl.no/nyhet/breivik-jeg-er-ikke-kristen-1.465538?paywall=true

As opposed to his manifesto that says otherwise over and over and over and over again?

no?
"If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform."

Yes.

"My parents, being rather secular wanted to give me the choice in regards to religion. At the age of 15 I chose to be baptised and confirmed in the Norwegian State Church. I consider myself to be 100% Christian. However, I strongly object to the current suicidal path of the Catholic Church but especially the Protestant Church. [...] We must have a Church leadership who supports a future Crusade with the intention of liberating the Balkans, Anatolia and creating three Christian states in the Middle East. Efforts should be made to facilitate the de-construction of the Protestant Church whose members should convert back to Catholicism. [...] I fully support that the Church gains more or less monopoly on religion in Europe (government policies, school curriculum etc at least) in addition to granting the Church several concessions which have been taken from them the last decades." - page 1403 (or 1404, by .pdf page number).

I had this shit mailed to me, I actually had to skim through it. Breivik is (A) legitimately retarded, (B) a fucking nutter of epic proportions and his words at any one time should not be taken as indicative of anything but whatever ideas he happened to wake up with that morning, and (C) Christian (or believed himself to be at the time). He is/was a right-wing christian conservative and liberal HBTQ-rights activist and terrorist, not an ethnic nationalist or third-positionist of any kind, nor any form of pagan. Anything he says in his current circumstance can be considered nothing more than deflection and should be treated as deeply suspect in relation to the things he actually did and actually pledged his allegiance to as he did those things.

There's a reason Breivik was never part of any Scandinavian nationalist group or partook in any nationalist discussions, whereas he was very active within anti-Jihadist and cultural conservative circles, was a member of the Freemasons, and the Progress Party; and that's quite simply because that's where his loyalties lie.

To suggest that he was playing some kind of long con for over 10 years and then decided to suddenly break it and become an avowed national socialist pagan third-positionist after the attacks did not explode into the Christian European crusade called for in the manifesto is beyond ridiculous.

that quote was from his manifesto…
pg. 1308

Someone read that thing?! Were you part of the investigating team?

 

[Delterius]

Like I said. Abramofluid.

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

Like I said. Abramofluid.

Sounds like something you put in your car to clean the fuel injectors

 

[fantadomat]

Like I said. Abramofluid.

Sounds like something you put in your car to clean the fuel injectors

Or in your loved one to get the insurance money.

 

[Luckmann]

that quote was from his manifesto…
pg. 1308

Yes, and you casually left out part of it:

"If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform. This makes us Christian."

He fully considered himself a Christian, he just does not consider himself a religious or practicing Christian in the same way a priest would. Also, there's the whole thing where he literally calls for a Christian Crusade throughout the entire manifesto and refers to himself and the people that would follow him as Christian Templars. He was (or is) a right-wing cultural conservative and a Christian, nothing else. That being said, and as much as I generally dislike all forms of Semitism, this in itself should not be considered as besmirching Christians in general, because again, he's a fucking nutter.

Someone read that thing?! Were you part of the investigating team?

Worse. I was working for a nationalist newspaper at the time and we had it mailed to us. He basically mail-bombed every major and minor outlet with that Grade A insanity. The only part I actually read thoroughly was the diary leading up to the attacks, where I concluded that he was completely fucking retarded.

I think the best parts of the manifest is where he details the uniforms for the templars, partially because of how incredibly autistic this is, but also because it includes ribbons for such things as "Defender of Christendom Medal", "Multi-Cultural Force Medal" (.pdf-pg. 1092), and let's not forget the "Badge of the Justiciar Knight" (.pdf-pg. 1100), as well as the part of the diary where he's grinding down the synthetic fertilizer using home appliances that constantly break down because they get stuffed with the accumulated dust and the engines break down, forcing him to buy more and more blenders, and he's starting to become worried that they're going to start questioning his blender purchases at the place he's getting them.

This is extra hilarious because, since he's already set up a company in order to get the synthetic fertilizers to begin with, he could've just gotten something like an industrial cement mixer and grounded stuff down by mixing in diesel or throwing a bowling ball in there, leaving it on overnight - or anything like that. But nope, instead, he bought more and more home appliances. I'm picturing him showing up covered in white dust at the home appliance store every so often, buying a new blender, and a cashier who's chewing chewing-gum and who couldn't give any less of a fuck. Sitcom gold, right there.

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

Jesus tapdancing Christ, I knew Breivik was a bit touched in the head but I had no idea he was this level of turbo-autist LARPer.

Wait, what the fuck was this thread about again? Oh, right. Beamdog. I'm going to vote "no confidence" on their ability to hammer out a playable D&D campaign after Siege of Dragonspear. I'm fucking shocked Hasbro is letting them within 100 feet of the license at all.

 

[fantadomat]

that quote was from his manifesto…
pg. 1308

Yes, and you casually left out part of it:

"If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform. This makes us Christian."

He fully considered himself a Christian, he just does not consider himself a religious or practicing Christian in the same way a priest would. Also, there's the whole thing where he literally calls for a Christian Crusade throughout the entire manifesto and refers to himself and the people that would follow him as Christian Templars. He was (or is) a right-wing cultural conservative and a Christian, nothing else. That being said, and as much as I generally dislike all forms of Semitism, this in itself should not be considered as besmirching Christians in general, because again, he's a fucking nutter.

Someone read that thing?! Were you part of the investigating team?

Worse. I was working for a nationalist newspaper at the time and we had it mailed to us. He basically mail-bombed every major and minor outlet with that Grade A insanity. The only part I actually read thoroughly was the diary leading up to the attacks, where I concluded that he was completely fucking retarded.

I think the best parts of the manifest is where he details the uniforms for the templars, partially because of how incredibly autistic this is, but also because it includes ribbons for such things as "Defender of Christendom Medal", "Multi-Cultural Force Medal" (.pdf-pg. 1092), and let's not forget the "Badge of the Justiciar Knight" (.pdf-pg. 1100), as well as the part of the diary where he's grinding down the synthetic fertilizer using home appliances that constantly break down because they get stuffed with the accumulated dust and the engines break down, forcing him to buy more and more blenders, and he's starting to become worried that they're going to start questioning his blender purchases at the place he's getting them.

This is extra hilarious because, since he's already set up a company in order to get the synthetic fertilizers to begin with, he could've just gotten something like an industrial cement mixer and grounded stuff down by mixing in diesel or throwing a bowling ball in there, leaving it on overnight - or anything like that. But nope, instead, he bought more and more home appliances. I'm picturing him showing up covered in white dust at the home appliance store every so often, buying a new blender, and a cashier who's chewing chewing-gum and who couldn't give any less of a fuck. Sitcom gold, right there.

I feel for your pain mate . Still i wouldn't call him retard ..... more like lunatic or totally insane. After all he was pretty efficient at killing people,he even stopped killing at one time wait the cops. That just shows how more efficient the far right is at being terrorists. If the right decides to become a terrorist organization,the targeted government could crumble in a few years. From what i remember the guy was thinking that he is from the future and he is here to save humanity. This changes things drastically,all the sci-fi shows have thought us that lunatics saying that they are from the future,are always from the future and something bad is going to happen . At least was he a good writer,or modern literature level of garbage?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

that quote was from his manifesto…
pg. 1308

Yes, and you casually left out part of it:

"If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform. This makes us Christian."

He fully considered himself a Christian, he just does not consider himself a religious or practicing Christian in the same way a priest would. Also, there's the whole thing where he literally calls for a Christian Crusade throughout the entire manifesto and refers to himself and the people that would follow him as Christian Templars. He was (or is) a right-wing cultural conservative and a Christian, nothing else. That being said, and as much as I generally dislike all forms of Semitism, this in itself should not be considered as besmirching Christians in general, because again, he's a fucking nutter.

Breivik specifically states that the Justicar Knights are not religious.

Q: Do I have to believe in God or Jesus in order to become a Justiciar Knight?
A: As this is a cultural war, our definition of being a Christian does not necessarily
constitute that you are required to have a personal relationship with God or Jesus.
…
It is not required that you have a personal relationship with God or Jesus in order to fight
for our Christian cultural heritage and the European way. In many ways, our modern
societies and European secularism is a result of European Christendom and the
enlightenment. It is therefore essential to understand the difference between a “Christian
fundamentalist theocracy” (everything we do not want) and a secular European society
based on our Christian cultural heritage (what we do want).

I can consider myself to be the King of England, but that doesn't make me one. You can't be a non-religious Christian.

 

[Delterius]

In case you guys want to split hairs over another retard's manifesto:

Spoiler

 

[rusty_shackleford]

In case you guys want to split hairs over another retard's manifesto:

Spoiler

the retard hated women and managed to kill only men
he couldn't even be a mass murderer properly, what a complete fucking failure

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

In case you guys want to split hairs over another retard's manifesto:

Spoiler

the retard hated women and managed to kill only men
he couldn't even be a mass murderer properly, what a complete fucking failure

He loathed men, and as much as he claimed to despise women he was absolutely desperate for their attention and approval. His victim choices were not coincidence or accident nor failure. Better choice would have been that Canuck with the Mini-14, trying to remember his name.

 

[Delterius]

In case you guys want to split hairs over another retard's manifesto:

Spoiler

the retard hated women and managed to kill only men
he couldn't even be a mass murderer properly, what a complete fucking failure

He loathed men, and as much as he claimed to despise women he was absolutely desperate for their attention and approval. His victim choices were not coincidence or accident nor failure. Better choice would have been that Canuck with the Mini-14, trying to remember his name.

Actually, it was failure. His victim choices were supposed to be his mother in law, his younger brother, happy couples and hot, blonde women. He ended up killing only his roommates and some dude inside a convenience store.

Interestingly, the Beamdog thread has decayed into a bunch of charicatures that would be fun additions to BG1.

 

[Projas]

He also killed 2 girls, but they were uggos and not at all the kind he said he hated. His original plan was to shoot up a sorority full of pretty blonde girls, but his cunning plan was foiled when he knocked on their door and no one answered. He also wanted to use his room to torture chads and stacies, another part of his plan that went absolutely nowhere. It was a complete and utter failure in all regards. Killing his roomates was the only thing he executed according to his plan and he only wanted to do that to get them out of the way, not because he particularily despised them.

My Twisted World: Enhanced Edition when

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

Interestingly, the Beamdog thread has decayed into a bunch of charicatures that would be fun additions to BG1.

A male Shar-Teel would never fly, unfortunately.

 

[fantadomat]

Hahaha that guy was a pitiful cunt that couldn't find a hooker to sleep with him. What a waste of oxygen.

 

[Pizzashoes]

Hey, the guy just didn't understand the complex dynamics of social interactions. Apart from the murders, he's really not too different from a lot of folks. Can any of you make the claim that someone like Amber Scott understands human interactions better than Elliot Rodger?

 

[fantadomat]

Hey, the guy just didn't understand the complex dynamics of social interactions. Apart from the murders, he's really not too different from a lot of folks. Can any of you make the claim that someone like Amber Scott understands human interactions better than Elliot Rodger?

I don't need to,even if i am pretty social guy. I can always pay for a fast one if i am in much of heat. There is no need for me to go around killing people only to get fucked by bunch of criminals in the prison.

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

Hey, the guy just didn't understand the complex dynamics of social interactions. Apart from the murders, he's really not too different from a lot of folks. Can any of you make the claim that someone like Amber Scott understands human interactions better than Elliot Rodger?

I think one of Elliot Rodger's myriad issues was that he didn't understand human interactions nearly well enough. First big mistake would probably be doing what he thought was expected of him in order to attain access to women's (and people's in general as a direct consequence) approval.

 

[Pizzashoes]

Elliot Rodger was an autistic fuckhead, but he's not that much weirder than tons of other autists. It's easy to see some of Elliot in someone like Amber Scott or about five people in my high school class of 200. Autism is a part of us and shaming autists won't make them go away.

 

[Glaucon]

what's most revealing of a man's character is which mass murderers he knows the most about

 

[LESS T_T]

Another myterious pieces from the concept artist. These sure don't look like D&D, do they?: https://www.artstation.com/amycornelson

Forest Beast - for Beamdog

The Tall Barn Beast - for Beamdog

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

Another myterious pieces from the concept artist. These sure don't look like D&D, do they?: https://www.artstation.com/amycornelson

Forest Beast - for Beamdog

The Tall Barn Beast - for Beamdog

CoC or WoD?