Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 2 is vastly overrated

[Volourn]

Bg1 rains phat loot. You get magic items easily. You literally get to buy fukkin artifacts. This myth that bg1 diesnt have lots of phat loot is fukkin retartet.

 

[octavius]

Play with Hard Times and Cursed Items Mod if you want to avoid phat lewt.

 

[levelworm]

- When I explored BG1's maps I discovered few things I would consider interesting, so discoveries never felt awesome.

If you're talking about loot, this is where we really disagree. The overabundance of magical items in BG2 is obscene. In BG1 magical items are harder to find which makes it feel rewarding whenever you do get them, and in BG2 the majority of the magical shit that gets thrown at you just gets sold off to merchants or never finds its way out of your bag of holding.

Most of the magic items in BG 1 are fucking boring. +1 dagger? Yey, I get +1 to THAC0 and +1 damage, whoopidiedoo. The only interesting loots are a bunch of wands.

The bow in the tent is pretty good though~~

 

[BING XI LAO]

Now Sykar's mad and he's rating everything retarded.

Imagine having him at your PnP D&D table.

I wish I had a buttmad autist with Underrail PfP at my table instead of apathetic soy millenial cucks.

 

[Peacefriend]

D&D based games with truly great encounter design would be KotC I & II

I'm pretty sure I saw KotC 2 get shat upon pretty hard here, for reasons including encounter design?

 

[ItsChon]

D&D based games with truly great encounter design would be KotC I & II

I'm pretty sure I saw KotC 2 get shat upon pretty hard here, for reasons including encounter design?

I waited until the game was properly finished before playing it. As it is now, the encounter design is fantastic, and anyone that complains is a crybaby bitch.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

I disposed of the troll dude who had besieged the De Arnise hold. Anomen died in the process, though. I was resurrecting him since I'm a cleric, but then Nalia's dialogue got triggered mid cast and my spell was interruped. I had to rest and cast the spell again

 

[NecroLord]

I disposed of the troll dude who had besieged the De Arnise hold. Anomen died in the process, though. I was resurrecting him since I'm a cleric, but then Nalia's dialogue got triggered mid cast and my spell was interruped. I had to rest and cast the spell again

Yeah, I had things like that happen every once in a while. You want to cast a crucial spell and then their banter triggers...

 

[KateMicucci]

I disposed of the troll dude who had besieged the De Arnise hold. Anomen died in the process, though. I was resurrecting him since I'm a cleric, but then Nalia's dialogue got triggered mid cast and my spell was interruped. I had to rest and cast the spell again

Yeah, I had things like that happen every once in a while. You want to cast a crucial spell and then their banter triggers...

Is this an EE problem?

 

[NecroLord]

I only play the original games with fixpack and aTweaks, along with some other PnP fixes.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

You can only leave the Planar Sphere when you're absolutely done with it. Maybe keep that in mind for the next time

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

I only play the original games with fixpack and aTweaks, along with some other PnP fixes.

Dude. Sword Coast Strategems. Its an AI mod, so don't feel guilty or that you're tainting the experience. Its so good. As good as BG is already, it manages to make it even better.

 

[ArchAngel]

Only bad thing about BG2 (and all IE games) is pathfinding. Otherwise 10/10 games compared to modern shit

 

[anvi]

KOTC2 is awesome if you like big complex battles.

 

[Wayward Son]

I was able to finish BG1, but BG2 lacks the same early game plot cohesion and direction. Therefore BG1 is better

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

I was able to finish BG1, but BG2 lacks the same early game plot cohesion and direction. Therefore BG1 is better

It's not that. Imo, rescuing Imoen is meaningless. You could've never added her to your party. You could've killed her yourself. bg1 and 2 are very different games.

Encounters are way, way better in 2 though. The expanded bestiary helps a lot.

 

[Wayward Son]

I was able to finish BG1, but BG2 lacks the same early game plot cohesion and direction. Therefore BG1 is better

It's not that. Imo, rescuing Imoen is meaningless. You could've never added her to your party. You could've killed her yourself. bg1 and 2 are very different games.

Encounters are way, way better in 2 though. The expanded bestiary helps a lot.

Idk it’s just that the plot hook (rescuing imoen) is less good to me than the combination of Gorion’s murder and the iron crisis.

 

[NecroLord]

Encounters are way, way better in 2 though. The expanded bestiary helps a lot.

Sure it does. The inclusion of aberrations (Mind flayers and Beholders) is good. However, the Beholders and their Eye Rays are completely bonkers...
Also, I rather like Spellhold and its maze.

 

[luj1]

KOTC2 is awesome if you like big complex battles.

modern classic

 

[luj1]

Only bad thing about BG2 (and all IE games) is pathfinding. Otherwise 10/10 games compared to modern shit

/thread

 

[MerchantKing]

Bhaalspawn Saga : Part 2: Siege of Dragonspear (name implies)

Not even part of the saga. Literally just a random beamdog insert. Irenicus swoops in and kidnaps you at the end of BG1. You find out about this when you can get the exposition dump from Imoen.

 

[PapaPetro]

Bhaalspawn Saga : Part 2: Siege of Dragonspear (name implies)

Not even part of the saga. Literally just a random beamdog insert. Irenicus swoops in and kidnaps you at the end of BG1. You find out about this when you can get the exposition dump from Imoen.

What level range is the game? I never played that one.

 

[MerchantKing]

Bhaalspawn Saga : Part 2: Siege of Dragonspear (name implies)

Not even part of the saga. Literally just a random beamdog insert. Irenicus swoops in and kidnaps you at the end of BG1. You find out about this when you can get the exposition dump from Imoen.

What level range is the game? I never played that one.

Never played it either. According to the wiki, the xp cap is 500k

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

The xp you get in Dragonspear gets you like a couple of levels more than what you'd have in normal bg2. That makes the beginning of the game much easier to go through.

 

[MerchantKing]

The xp you get in Dragonspear gets you like a couple of levels more than what you'd have in normal bg2. That makes the beginning of the game much easier to go through.

It's pretty easy even with the 89k xp you start with in bg2.