Stalkers, Space Rangers, Pathologic&Void, etc., are actually a steep incline from what the west's been producing lately.
baronjohn said:What else am I missing?
Well, you've had Piranha Bytes, but what other western-european developers have made a good game the last ten years? Remedy, Blue Byte, Ubisoft, Lionhead, Crytek, Rockstar North, DICE, Funcom, they all suck. You've Sports Interactive and Creative Assembly I guess, but they're still making the same games they made over ten years ago. Like 13+ similar Championship Manager games and 7-8 Total War games with very few differences with the exception of the Medieval->Rome jump.MetalCraze said:Stalkers, Space Rangers, Pathologic&Void, etc., are actually a steep incline from what the west's been producing lately.
If we'll count EU as a part of "West" then not really. Eurodevs also make worthwhile games.
It's just the Kwa that really sucks.
I've looked at Space Rangers 2 but the UI looks like it's got cancer so I'm discouraged. I'll get to it eventually.
Completely forgot about Paradox of course. Yeah, they're definitely good, even if they are still basically just making Europa Universalis again and again. Less sure about Cyanide. That's the guys who keep spamming us with cycling manager games, isn't it? Blood Bowl was decent, but yeah, not exactly an original IP or idea.MetalCraze said:Another two - Paradox (Swedish) and Cyanide (French)
Granted you may say that BBLE is good because of the original (e.g. boardgame) while Cyanide just ported it and Paradox's neverending addons are more like DLCs (if not patches) and you'll be right - but those games are still good, complex and very addictive.
I may add certain Czech devs too for some butthurt.
You may say - but that's not much and you'll be right again. However Sovok gamedev became pretty stale as well - many games recommended in this thread are 5 years old or more and if we are to dig through eurogames of that time we will find just as good examples.
Would've added Battlefront with Combat Mission series but damn they just keep releasing content packs with online DRM instead of improving their current games.
baronjohn said:Thanks guys, I've made notes and I'll check out the games as time permits.
I've looked at Space Rangers 2 but the UI looks like it's got cancer so I'm discouraged. I'll get to it eventually.
I've only played an hour or so of Cargo but what I saw was awesome
I should mention that I've also played You Are Empty and They're Alive and liked them both, even though they're generally considered to be somewhat bad, so feel free to suggest bad games too
KalosKagathos said:Yeah, guys, count yourself lucky you were spared the terror of Russian adventure games.