Alright, any recently-released RPGs that are good?

[Efe]

Or it is expressed through your actions rather than arbitrary sliders like passionate/stoic, etc

 

[Serus]

I'm curious which squad TB games have more depth then URR? Even better if they are somewhat recent.

JA2? Sure. But it's debatable whether it's an cRPG.
ToEE? Not in my opinion.

What else is out there that I've missed?

Goldbox, KOTC, BaK. Dark Sun, Proudfoot games and Voidspire Tactics are arguably contenders as well. Haven't played Alvora Tactics, but if it is anything at all like Voidspire, maybe that as well.

There are also some oldies with good reputation that I haven't tried like Aethra Chronicles and Disciples of Steel that are supposedly great as well.

Blackguards had potential but was poorly balanced and too easy to break, even compared to the others.

Low Magic Age looks like it has potential, but it is pretty much an incomplete dnd combat engine at this point.

Thank you for the reply.

GoldBox, KotC I haven't played. Might get around to KotC eventually.
BaK: A good game, but please remove your nostalgia goggles. Combat doesn't compare to URR complexity.
DrakSun: I really don't remember them being very complex or interesting combat-wise?
The further ones I didn't play also.
Blackguards I wasn't impressed about from my short time with that game.

So yeah, so far... ToEE. I strongly disliked the patched version I once tried to play. Tiny characters, very difficult to control UI. Also kept crashing. I hardly managed to leave the initial area. Maybe I need to look for another version/put more effort.

Haplo in this thread:

"I haven't played any of the game mentioned so they don't count. I know very little about the genre i am discussing in general. Obviously i must be right".

Edit:
Also: JA2 is only "debatable" if you are a retard. Might as well debate if TOEE or KOTC or Wizardry series or Golden Box games, etc... are crpg. In fact all those mentioned games probably have less of features commonly seen in crpgs these days than JA2 has.

 

[Jacob]

Easy mode: JA2 is number 13 on Codex top 70 PC RPGs...

 

[Haplo]

"I haven't played any of the game mentioned so they don't count. I know very little about the genre i am discussing in general. Obviously i must be right".

Or maybe, you know, the games were listed following my request, after my initial post. To see what else is there.
My impression is that not particularly much. Even less that can match or exceed URR.

And I didn't need to play all of the mentioned games to realize Underrail is very good.

 

[Roguey]

Or it is expressed through your actions rather than arbitrary sliders like passionate/stoic, etc

One could argue that every strategy is a role playing game then (and that would be incorrect).

 

[Catacombs]

AoD
Underrail

Haven't played AoD yet.

Lucky fuck.

agree. He is pretty lucky since he got to experience that magical experience for the first time ever.

Forget Total Recall, Total Uncall

I've never played either.......

 

[Efe]

i honestly don't know how you make these jumps.
Do you really think every strategy game has fully customizable squad loadout, skill gain, etc?

 

[Roguey]

i honestly don't know how you make these jumps.
Do you really think every strategy game has fully customizable squad loadout, skill gain, etc?

XCOM does.

 

[Efe]

so you downscaled from "every strategy game" to x-com 2?

 

[Roguey]

so you downscaled from "every strategy game" to x-com 2?

You're defining RPG as a collection of features rather than a game that allows/acknowledges your role playing.

 

[Efe]

acknowledging role playing decisions is not a feature now? if you piss people off they give you old "fuck off". is that not consequential enough?
xcom has dress up dolls while ja2 has characters. looting enemies, mail ordering equipment vs magically cloning researched guns. fixed story missions and limited play area vs free form nature of ja2.
but i guess you were just going for low effort bait and this is a wasted discussion.

 

[Lhynn]

Roguey is right.

The game straddles the line, but in the end its a very in depth strategy game.

 

[fantadomat]

Does it really matter?In the end it is a good game.

 

[Roguey]

acknowledging role playing decisions is not a feature now? if you piss people off they give you old "fuck off". is that not consequential enough?

That's one of those ~simmy~ features, adding the ability to piss people off, but giving a heavy disincentive for doing so. You play it the right way, or you just make things needlessly harder for yourself.