Age of Empires III: Definitive Edition

[JarlFrank]

Malta is a really odd choice.

The original campaign's prologue had you play as the knights of Malta, so it kinda makes sense to add it as a proper faction.

 

[Young_Hollow]

Malta is a really odd choice.

The original campaign's prologue had you play as the knights of Malta, so it kinda makes sense to add it as a proper faction.

And calling them Malta was probably safer than calling them Hospitallers or the Knights of St. John, which was what they actually are in the campaign.

 

[HeroMarine]

The original campaign was incredibly bad, even by today's retarded standards.

 

[Young_Hollow]

The original campaign was incredibly bad, even by today's retarded standards.

The alternative history thing at the end was interesting though and was better than the alt-history of Chinese campaign.

 

[HeroMarine]

The original campaign was incredibly bad, even by today's retarded standards.

The alternative history thing at the end was interesting though and was better than the alt-history of Chinese campaign.

It was horrible. Can't comment on the expansions campaigns as I never played them.

 

[Narax]

Malta is a really odd choice.

Most of their assets are reused/reskinned from the original game, so they're basically reselling you something you already have. Their addition is just a very lazy marketing move to attract the deus vult crowd. Also they seem to be getting extremely uncreative with their dlc names. The only thing i am looking forward to is the new royal houses mechanic.

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[HeroMarine]

Malta is a really odd choice.

Most of their assets are reused/reskinned from the original game, so they're basically reselling you something you already have. Their addition is just a very lazy marketing move to attract the deus vult crowd. Also they seem to be getting extremely uncreative with their dlc names. The only thing i am looking forward to is the addition of the royal houses mechanic.

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Well, I'm the deus vult crowd but consider me not attracted.

 

[Lacrymas]

I'm sure AoM would get more attention and would be played more than this thing. They just have to remove the silly auto create button in every building and it's smooth sailing from there.

 

[Young_Hollow]

I'm sure AoM would get more attention and would be played more than this thing. They just have to remove the silly auto create button in every building and it's smooth sailing from there.

They messed up AoM with the Chinese expansion and they won't be able to justify another expansion until they fix it, which I'm guessing they don't want to do. With the AoE2 and 3 expansions, they have at least a large part of the community on their side but from the reviews I've read, the Tale of the Dragon expansion is too bad to love even for fanboys.

 

[Lacrymas]

It is terrible, yes, and I wouldn't feature it in a theoretical DE at all tbh. AoM doesn't need expansions anyway, it just needs an adrenaline shot.

 

[Young_Hollow]

You can only get one of them and you can only get it in Age 4 but it looks cool. Seems like they're taking more liberties with historical accuracy than with AoE2.

 

[LESS T_T]

Buy some cosmetics.

 

[Young_Hollow]

RIP, next steps will eventually end up with the AoE franchise being like Starcraft, bursting at the seams with DLCs and coonsoomables and a constant flow of bad updates to justify them. At least it didn't die leaving me sad but instead stayed alive and grew into something I hate. Couldn't have gotten a better death if they did seppuku.

 

[JarlFrank]

I'm sure AoM would get more attention and would be played more than this thing. They just have to remove the silly auto create button in every building and it's smooth sailing from there.

They messed up AoM with the Chinese expansion and they won't be able to justify another expansion until they fix it, which I'm guessing they don't want to do. With the AoE2 and 3 expansions, they have at least a large part of the community on their side but from the reviews I've read, the Tale of the Dragon expansion is too bad to love even for fanboys.

AoM doesn't have a proper Definitive Edition yet though.
The AoM we got was basically what AoE2 HD was.

And then they made AoE2 DE with a new and improved engine. AoM is the only game in the series that hasn't received that full scale treatment yet.

 

[Tacgnol]

I'm sure AoM would get more attention and would be played more than this thing. They just have to remove the silly auto create button in every building and it's smooth sailing from there.

They messed up AoM with the Chinese expansion and they won't be able to justify another expansion until they fix it, which I'm guessing they don't want to do. With the AoE2 and 3 expansions, they have at least a large part of the community on their side but from the reviews I've read, the Tale of the Dragon expansion is too bad to love even for fanboys.

AoM doesn't have a proper Definitive Edition yet though.
The AoM we got was basically what AoE2 HD was.

And then they made AoE2 DE with a new and improved engine. AoM is the only game in the series that hasn't received that full scale treatment yet.

AOM uses the same engine as AOE3, so it would probably be pretty straightforward you would think.

 

[Young_Hollow]

I'm sure AoM would get more attention and would be played more than this thing. They just have to remove the silly auto create button in every building and it's smooth sailing from there.

They messed up AoM with the Chinese expansion and they won't be able to justify another expansion until they fix it, which I'm guessing they don't want to do. With the AoE2 and 3 expansions, they have at least a large part of the community on their side but from the reviews I've read, the Tale of the Dragon expansion is too bad to love even for fanboys.

AoM doesn't have a proper Definitive Edition yet though.
The AoM we got was basically what AoE2 HD was.

And then they made AoE2 DE with a new and improved engine. AoM is the only game in the series that hasn't received that full scale treatment yet.

I don't think they can get away with making an AoM DE without fixing the EE and fixing the Chinese in the expansion first. Unlike in AoE2 or 3, they don't have an edition that the community was happy with to start on. I haven't played AoE1DE yet and I don't play the original AoE1 but I doubt the community is completely satisfied with how 1DE was handled either, though at this point they're probably just thankful they left it alone and didn't inject all the xbox account and mindless DLC crap. AoE1DE does look like the same engine as 2DE though. Hopefully they keep their hands off because the whole series has been being ''remastered'' for 9 years now and all they've done is make every game more similar to eachother both graphically and mechanically. You only need to look at AoE3 to see where most of the bonuses and ideas for the new AoE2 civs came from, and its the same with AoE4 and AoE2.

 

[Lacrymas]

AoE1 DE definitely wasn't handled with finesse, let me tell you.

 

[pickmeister]

Not a fan of further bastardizing the series. I’d be happy if they left AoM alone.
It’s enough that they changed the color palette/tint/textures/whatever.

Original AoM:

HD:

I prefer the original.
It looks like they improved the fidelity and texture resolution in the HD edition but I think the developers of today don’t understand that sometimes less is more. To me, the original is much nicer to look at.

 

[BING XI LAO]

Well, at least they did aoe2 properly.

 

[pickmeister]

If you mean AoE 2 HD edition then kinda. They changed a handful of minor things that make me dislike it but that’s because it was the first game I ever played so I am especially autistic about it.

As for DE edition, not a fan. Too much bloom, fog etc. and way too floaty animation. Original devs wanted the animations to look somehow realistic. New devs just wanted to make them smoother and the result looks strange.
Which is something I despise about developers of today (art direction especially) - their point of reference is not real world. Their points of reference are other games because they’ve never been outside to see anything real and it shows.

Also not a fan of the new non-sense civs like Italians.

I read here on codex the new campaigns are good, though.

 

[BING XI LAO]

DE artstyle is a bit flawed, but the corrected shift-queue functionality and various new UI features are indispensable.

 

[Young_Hollow]

Well, at least they did aoe2 properly.

All the stupid seasonal events and online integration aside, DE does look Warcraftified / carttonified like pickmeister says. Also, while campaigns may be good, I think they've exhausted the AoE2 gameplay system and how much variation it allows. Adding stuff like units that can strip away armor, units that have charged attacks, cannibalized bonuses from AoE3, etc aren't really innovative. They could've and should've made a new game where more civ-to-civ variation was possible instead of making infinite DLCs for this ''Definitive'' version. For people on older systems or those who don't want the cartooney graphics, HD or the original AoC is still solid and mostly unsurpassed if you have friends to play with.

Its been what, 23 years since AoK released and they still haven't come up with anything better? Of course complaining now doesn't make sense since the older playerbase isn't their target audience anymore because they've got consoomers a-plenty asking for ''more DLCs plz'' everywhere.

 

[Young_Hollow]

DE artstyle is a bit flawed, but the corrected shift-queue functionality and various new UI features are indispensable.

Ques could be considered QOL features at best, which could've been added in a patch. And pros made a skill out of juggling production buildings without que features before all this; and for normal players, I don't think it would change much anyway if you're used to the old system. The other UI stuff seems to just gimmicks.

 

[pickmeister]

When it comes to RTS games in general, the community often asks for QoL features that in the end almost make the game play itself, lower skill ceiling, suck the fun out of it, and then people stop playing it. At least that was one of the main reasons why people moved from SC2 back to SC1.

But perhaps now, with more casual paypig audience, this model works.

 

[Sarathiour]

You can only get one of them and you can only get it in Age 4 but it looks cool. Seems like they're taking more liberties with historical accuracy than with AoE2.

AoE3 was never even remotely historically accurate, even in the base game mercenary and rocket launcher were silly unit, indigenous unit were closer to some kind of mythos, and the two expansion get even more sillier. Non one can seriously complain that they are adding fun unit, which make the whole debacle of removing the dancing pit for Amerindian even more ridiculous .