Like attacking from safe distance
Newsflash: attacking from a safe distance is cheese in hiver's world of lunacy.
Unless you're saying that BG is riddled with poorly-designed maps that trap enemies on terrain and let you attack them with impunity (which I don't remember it having) or that it has unbalanced player vs. enemy max attack range (which I don't remember it having), your point is moot. If you do manage to provide examples of "abusing attack from safe distance" - your point is even more irrelevant, because you're just pointing out more flaws in BG encounter design, which is my argument in the first place.
Of course, you're just talking out of your ass at this point, because there was never a point where your enemies couldn't reach you.
Newsflash: having stealth is cheese in hiver's world of lunacy.
In no way does it amount to abuse of the ruleset, because you either have high stealth and the enemy fails the check, or he sees you and kills you. Meaning, it works exactly the way it should.
Eager to hear about abusing fog of war.
just preknowledge after playing it a hundred times
And now we know how hiver plays Baldur's Gate.
Save, fail, repeat. Hundred attempts later he randomly wins and runs to RPGCodex screaming awesome encounter design.
retreating and then coming back later fully healed with spells replenished
That's just a forgiving mechanic to prevent crap players like you from getting stuck with an unbeatable boss. I don't recall ever being motivated to flee in the middle of a boss battle because it never made sense narratively. Giving enemies cheating script-spells is not a viable solution to this problem because a well-designed hard enemy encounter should be hard even for a fully-stocked freshly-healing party. And many boss battles wouldn't let you leave until the boss was dead, if I remember correctly. Some enemies, like liches, will follow you outside. Basically, more nonsense from dumbfuck!!.
where the player can heal as many times as he likes while enemies have one measly heal potion or lower spell at best?
Healing is all but irrelevant with cheating spellcaster enemies because you are able to land a hit the enemy is pretty much dead. Dragons are the only ones with tons of HP and you will need all the healing you can get to make up for the difference.
So, now that hiver has failed to provide any justification for cheating script-spells, let's see what he concocted in an attempt to deny objective reality and avoid humiliation.
None of those are "SCRIPTED NON-COUNTERABLE SPELLS that live outside of the ruleset"
They are all in the ruleset you stupid laughable devolved shit.
Actually, they are.
Spell sequencers - moron. Plenty of them too, which you can also use if you want. Nothing insta replenishing about them.
Players can use multiple spell sequencers of the same type?
You've never actually played BG, have you? Plus, half the time it's not even an impossible multi-use high-level spell sequencer, but a hard-coded script.
Charm is an ordinary spell you can use, summons too. Detonation arrows you can get too.
Hiver is so stupid, his brain blocks out the "hard-coded insta-cast uninterruptible cheating script spells" two seconds after reading my post.
Teleporting - is actually invisibility spell.
It works in two different ways for players and enemies.
Beholders are special high level creatures with their own abilities you cannot have because you are not a Beholder, imbecile.
Thanks for confirming my original argument of Baldur's Gate having ill-conceived enemies that fire cheating scripted spells outside of the normal ruleset in a way that is entirely inaccessible to the player.
You managed to add an unnecessary insult at the end there, but I just assumed you were raised in a brothel or crack den.
Kangax imprisonment spells are the same ones you can use
No, his imprisonment spells are actually hard-coded scripts that, as hell bovine stated, are ranged as opposed to touch, are insta-cast, uninterruptable, and don't seem to have a limit. Oh, let me guess, Kangaxx is a special high level creature that uses his own abilities because you're not a demilich.
You know, you could have just said from the beginning "yes, I know the only hard enemies in BG are the ones that cheat like there's no tomorrow, but I don't have a problem with it because lore establishes them as having special backgrounds, allowing me to suspend my disbelief and just save-scum or magic-immune my way to victory". You'd still have poor taste in gaming, but at least you wouldn't look like a thoroughly-ravaged butthurt moron.
As we see there are no such spells as you describe. Expect in very rare cases such as Irenicus spells, which is excused by him literally being outside of the rule set genius and main villain who you rarely interact with before the very end.
Thanks for providing another example of an enemy that's only difficult because his AI cheats. The fucking obligatory recurrent final boss and main villain of the game!
Just in case you wanted to say "yes, enemies cheat, but these are all optional encounters you can ignore". Good job ruining the only remaining excuse for getting out of the hole you dug for yourself.
Thats the consequence of the whole system being built on such spells and spell like abilities and any melee skills being just the most basic and quite boring ones. Which is one of the most fmailiar and even "famous" problems of IE games.
You're doing such a good job poking holes in your argument, I should just sit back and watch you argue with yourself.
Yes, as I have said in my original post, the BG combat system is ridiculously skewed in favor of spellcasters, and even though the normal ruleset provides plenty of opportunities for spellcaster enemies being difficult through creative use of powerful spells, the game still resorts to having them cheat through all of the aforementioned examples. Shit encounter design is shit.
And if you think this is it you are sorely mistaken
Actually, your factually fallacious retorts and blanket contradictions are getting rather old. Since you're not able to properly defend your argument, and have likely realized yourself that your original position is 100% inaccurate and based solely on your inability to read and comprehend the posts you respond to and are doing this solely in hopes of stumbling on a miracle that will save you from even more public humiliation, I do not see myself responding to any more of your drivel, unless you are able to provide a single argument that is neither clearly false nor irrelevant to the discussion. A response filled with nothing but infantile attempts at insults and rivers of blood from your butt will result in a prompt and irreversible ignore.
games and saying "BG not soo gud, BG 2 gr8" is just a sad cliche. I, for one, don't agree with this statement at all and honestly can't pick "the better game" between BG1 and 2. As for the combat limitations, blame low level AD&D, not BG. One bad roll of the dice killing your lvl 1 mage is AD&D WAD, not a BG flaw.
