Decline Sword Coast Legends Pre-Release Thread

[Infinitron]

WTF, seriously? Companion subforums? Is this a thing?

 

[pippin]

Not even my d&d characters that I made during high school were that fucking bad

 

[Fairfax]

(Psst, that guy's not actually a Watcher, he's a guy who was trolling them in Twitch chat during the mindx2 vs Hiddenx D:OS 2 match)

It's really hard to tell with the Watch, though. I kept saying they gave their GOTY award to Fallout 3, Skyrim and Mass Effect 3 and then I checked and it was true.

 

[Delterius]

The Cleric.

The Drunk.

The High INT / Low WIS wizard.

The Mysterious.

The Wise.

The Ranger.

The Halfling Fighter.

The Lord of Darkness.

 

[Irenaeus II]

Self-proclamed Lord of the Dark. He sounds like fun.

 

[ArchAngel]

It's really hard to tell with the Watch, though. I kept saying they gave their GOTY award to Fallout 3, Skyrim and Mass Effect 3 and then I checked and it was true.

Skyrim has 98% positive score on Steam. So if we take that into online communities, Codex covers that 2% of negative, everyone else falls into 98%. Singling out Watch is kind of unfair when they are just like everyone else.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

WTF, seriously? Companion subforums? Is this a thing?

Yes, think those have been there for a while. Never checked them out though, even when I spent some time as a drama vulture on those forums I couldn't face going into those. They just look embarrassing.

 

[Morality Games]

WTF, seriously? Companion subforums? Is this a thing?

What, you didn't know? The way you keep track of stuff I thought you would have been the first.

Pretty pointless addition. Not sure there is much to say about the companions.

 

[Night Goat]

Exclusive screenshot of the game's companions:

Spoiler

 

[King Crispy]

Dude that is a sick fedora.

 

[Excidium II]

Exclusive screenshot of the game's companions:

Spoiler

Some TOEE inspiration I see.

 

[prodigydancer]

The Cleric.

The Drunk.

The High INT / Low WIS wizard.

The Mysterious.

The Wise.

The Ranger.

The Halfling Fighter.

The Lord of Darkness.

Credit where credit is due: they don't secretly cut corners, blushing and hoping nobody will notice. They proudly and openly half-ass everything to maximum mediocrity.

 

[getter77]

Came across this nugget at the tail end of the NeoGAF thread for it, not sure exactly where it is sourced from be it some video update or lost in the swamp of the official site. It certainly sounds plausible considering the road up to now:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181136562&postcount=221

Updates

• They're keeping level scaling for sure.
• They've added a ton of new placables for DM mode
• Added devil creatures for DM mode (imps, succubus)
• Various bug fixes, balances, etc.
• They changed death somewhat. When the party dies, they still just go back to the beginning of the dungeon. The enemies you killed remain dead, but now the enemies you didn't kill regain full health. Still no hard fail state, and it sounds like that won't change.
• DMs can change monster health of the fly. This is pretty huge. Anybody who ever has DM'd knows that sometimes the party will come across something that you made too strong and you'll tweak stuff behind the screen. Great fix on their part.
• Quest rewards are still randomized, but they got rid of trash loot as random. They will not allow DMs to hand pick what gear players get from completing quest.
• You can't put action text on chests with loot.
• They will not fix the tile system. What encounters you get will remain fixed to what the randomly generated tile allows you to create.
• Big one: Do not expect any major changes from how the game feels during this weekend's sneak peek. They will not add in any more features due to the imminent launch. They hope to be able to support and add post launch. There are things not in the head start that are in the final game. But systems are as they will be. Depending on how you look at it, it's either developers promising to support post launch, or developers shipping an incomplete game. Time will tell on that one, I think.

 

[Infinitron]

Anybody who ever has DM'd knows that sometimes the party will come across something that you made too strong

They're keeping level scaling for sure.

Spoiler

Yeah, yeah, I know about the +5/-5 thing

 

[Excidium II]

• They changed death somewhat. When the party dies, they still just go back to the beginning of the dungeon. The enemies you killed remain dead, but now the enemies you didn't kill regain full health. Still no hard fail state, and it sounds like that won't change.

P. amazing, you can finish the dungeons on auto-pilot.

 

[Roguey]

No illusion of strategic gameplay here. Might as well go full D:OS with encounters.

 

[Mustawd]

That's so damn casual that I really don't see the point of even playing...

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

What's funny is that the party resurrection thing comes after so much other cheese. From what I recall (not 100% on all these just what I gathered a while back):

- every class has some sort of healing
- potions appear to be very plentiful, incl resurrection potions which make dead characters bounce back up
- unlimited "stabilisation" (by any class) in the middle of battle which basically resurrects the character
- life stealing weapons everywhere which heal the pc as they damage enemies

I know some of this is technically based on DnD stuff but watching it in action everything is clearly taken to casual extremes. They obviously thought that wasn't enough to keep people alive in the face of fearsome level scaled mobs so the TPK mechanic was a brilliant addition.

 

[Space Insect]

Came across this nugget at the tail end of the NeoGAF thread for it, not sure exactly where it is sourced from be it some video update or lost in the swamp of the official site. It certainly sounds plausible considering the road up to now:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181136562&postcount=221

Maybe now we'll be rolling for tiles rather than stats.

 

[Jaesun]

Level scaling... in a D&D game?

Have these people ever played D&D before?

 

[AwesomeButton]

Level scaling... in a D&D game?

Have these people ever played D&D before?

Scratch "before".

 

[aleph]

Level scaling... in a D&D game?

Have these people ever played D&D before?

After all that is known about SCL, you still have to ask?

 

[Bubbles]

It's meant to enforce inclusivity.

 

[Whiran]

It's meant to enforce inclusivity.

Yes, we shouldn't discriminate against bad players right?
:incloosive:

 

[Space Insect]

SCL dev: What even is a bad player?
Assistant dev: Well sir, it's those people who the fighter was made for in Baldur's Ga-
SCL dev: How dare you mention that elitist pice of trash! It did not even have LGBTQAP romances! You are fired!