Shadowrun Shadowrun: Hong Kong - Extended Edition

[supervoid]

I hope they'll implement very hard mode, this game is too easy even for me.
Also, second best bug ever:

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only one copy was usable in combat

 

[Lhynn]

Darth Roxor is it true that this game optional fights are the hard ones? and sort of mandatory ones are the ones that are cake?

 

[Excidium II]

Darth Roxor is it true that this game optional fights are the hard ones? and sort of mandatory ones are the ones that are cake?

I heard the fight against the russians in the whampoa sewers is p. tough.

 

[Prehistorik]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/shadowrun-hong-kong/posts/1367094

The art reminds me of

 

[Ninjerk]

It's a shame none of the games have really captured that aesthetic.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Darth Roxor is it true that this game optional fights are the hard ones?

Only in Grendel and to some degree in Whistleblower.

 

[Zetor]

Have you tried the "allow enemies to take more than 1 attack per turn" AI mini-patch thing? Though it'd probably only have any effect once enemies start getting 3 AP due to how the AI likes running around randomly as priority #2.

 

[Lord Andre]

Have you tried the "allow enemies to take more than 1 attack per turn" AI mini-patch thing? Though it'd probably only have any effect once enemies start getting 3 AP due to how the AI likes running around randomly as priority #2.

I tried it, in fact I played the whole game that way. Indeed the effect is most notable after the AP upgrade. Most relevant example is when I forgot 2-3 party members close together and get peppered with 10 grenades in a row. Unfortunately if your careful with placement and use alpha strike to full effect, the game is still piss easy. I did get docwagoned 3-4 times in the game so I guess it's better than vanilla AI.

 

[Excidium II]

If you put points in rigging do you start out with a drone?

 

[Crichton]

If you put points in rigging do you start out with a drone?

I haven't tested it in HK, but in Dragonfall, ~4 points of rigging got you a drone to start with (as long as you didn't have too many points in decking or spellcasting, there was some kind of exclusionary hierarchy of starting equipment).

 

[J_C]

finally finished muh second playthrough

tl;dr - bleh

there was hardly anything different about that 2nd playthrough after all, if anything it was even more of a chore

RPG Codex - the place where people are replaying games they don't enjoy.

 

[Darth Roxor]

I was doing it out of duty to see what happens if I do shit differently.

Not much happened.

 

[eXalted]

Playing the Mercurial UGC right now. Something that's not there even in HK. Multiple Deckers in the Matrix and talking with virtual people and stuff.

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[Ninjerk]

Is it good or just gimmicky?

 

[eXalted]

The feeling is closer to that of running in a network grid that is connected to a lot of areas. Better than HK in my opinion (which is easy to top off actually). Oh, and it's realtime (the UGC is for Dragonfall).

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Virtual Pubs

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News Watching. Just a picture, but it's something new.

A lot more originality than never ending walking and turning cameras.

 

[Excidium II]

P. cool. Has any UGC done anything regarding astral space?

 

[Jason Liang]

The way Matrix is done in Shadowrun's Engine is that it's no different than the Real world. So anything pretty much you can do in the real world you can to in the Matrix as a Decker. The Matrix is just the real world reskinned.

 

[Outlander]

Anybody working on a review of this? Darth Roxor ?

 

[cw8]

Darth Roxor is it true that this game optional fights are the hard ones? and sort of mandatory ones are the ones that are cake?

Dragonfall had harder fights like the Apex level. Whistleblower in HK is the only challenging one if you choose the option that makes it challenging.

 

[Jason Liang]

You can also do Prosperity Tower the hard way, from the front door.

In fact, my 3rd playthrough, after the next patch comes out, will probably be all violence, all the time.

 

[Darth Roxor]

You can also do Prosperity Tower the hard way, from the front door.

In fact, my 3rd playthrough, after the next patch comes out, will probably be all violence, all the time.

Not recommended on both points, highly not recommended on first.

Anybody working on a review of this?

aye

 

[DramaticPopcorn]

Whistleblower in HK is the only challenging one if you choose the option that makes it challenging.

Remind me, which one is it?

 

[Darth Roxor]

The one where you get sandwiched between angry koreans and angry elves at the end.

 

[naossano]

Game is challenging so far if you don't buy anything and only use karma points in the hub.

I am still not very far into the game (i guess).

Regarding all the complains about the dialogs, i felt it a slightly different way.

The NPC aren't just info dump. You have a proper introduction with them. Sometimes the way they talk or what happens to them is more important than what they say to you. You can actually piss some of them (dunno how many) that will refuse to speak to you any further (dunno if that is permanent). They rarelly drop you massive amount of text in a single time (except maybe the first or second time to get accointed with them). On the other hand, they always have some new bit of dialogs each time you get to see them. It is way better than if they all dropped everything at once the first time and have nothing to say the next several times. The kind of player that i am, the one who want to talk to every npc all the time, feell way more rewarded to take that time and get new content each time i see them. There isn't many games that allow that amount of fresh content everytime you see the npc.

On the other hand, it eats up time, while the missions pile up and pile up... I didn't count how much time i play each cession. But often, in a playing cession, i end up doing one mission and one trip into the hub, or one mission only, or just one trip into the hub. So i don't do many missions each time i play. Sometime one, sometime none. And my computer keep sending me tons of missions, and i have yet no idea if some of them are time sensitive or mutually exclusive and kind of lose track of them while spending so much time in the hub. So there is some issue about time spent in the hub. I wouldn't have mind if only half the npc had something new to say after a mission, and the other half after another mission. (and more missions). Each npc on its own rarelly have too much to say, but those npc are quite numerous.. which is good, but it eats more time. So if time was better handled, i would do two missions and one trip into the hub in each playthrough. Also, if i don't mind most of the dialogs, some are kinda redundants. Like one npc talking you about his problem, then another npc talking you about the first npc problem, then a third one talking you about the fact that the first npc has a problem. If you are into talking to every npc in the first place, you don't need to have everyone telling you to talk to the others.

My major complain so far, is, even worse than Dragonfall, you spend quite a lot of time unrelated with your main quest/main goal. They should work on it next time, pick if you are a shadowrunner that do mindless jobs, or someone that have an important goal and seek to move forward it. Not have an important goal and do mindless jobs.

 

[Lord Andre]

The one where you get sandwiched between angry koreans and angry elves at the end.

Oh yeah, that required a bit more tactics. Basically I summoned an elemental (from the environment I think) and sent it near the elves to act as a bullet sponge, while I wiped out the koreans and moved down towards the south of the map to take defensive positions against the elves. I reloaded 2 or 3 times and pushed my Cram + Jazz panic button that I keep for when shit hits the fan. Yeah, more fights like that would of been welcome.