Tacticular Cancer: We'll have your balls

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Revisiting VtM: Bloodlines

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Prime Junta, Apr 17, 2016.

  1. Delteriusgender: ⚧ Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Which proves. Between nossies and toreador you should always pick tremere or malkavian.
     
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  2. Make America Great Again D_Xgender: ⚧ Arcane Patron

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    FTFY.
     
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  3. Delteriusgender: ⚧ Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    strauss and the apartment are cool tho

    its the vampire equivalent of a dental plan

    not sorry
     
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  4. fantadomatgender: ⚧ Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    What kind of communist are you?! Shame for the mother party !
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  5. fantadomatgender: ⚧ Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    My stand on fags is very simple. If they act like normal people and keep their sex life to themself unless asked,and can take a fag joke,they are ok. I even have few possible fag friends,don't mind it because they are normal people. Now those faggots at the pride.....well burn them with passion,should be hanged from the Christmas tree !
     
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  6. fobiagender: ⚧ Educated Patron

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    You seem to be
    in many regards, so why not keep your beliefs to yourself or share them with your
    and maybe you'll come to turns with yourself and then can act like
    again.

    Meanwhile people who care about the games and mods that are discussed here can continue reading these forums and maybe even contributing, withouth having to skip through countless shitposts.
    I know you're not a single offender, and as you've stated you have more time to yourself than ways to kill it. So why not ask DU for GD access?
    I'm sure you can find a handful of лева to convince him.

    Just trying to be helpful and supportive here! :salute:
     
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  7. Zombragender: ⚧ Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, I was reading before about how minorities hate it when majority members stand up for their rights or speak out against discrimination. That fits right in with what civil rights groups always say: "Straight white males should never advocate equal rights! Those darn meddlers!" :lol:

    lol, the champion of plain speaking.

    Here's a plain, straightforward question for you: are you angry about sexual orientation appearing on the character sheet? Looking forward to your plain, straightforward answer. :lol:
     
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  8. fantadomatgender: ⚧ Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Nah i am ok in rpg section,it is my passion after all. Also please take hint from the picture in my previous post mate. The rope necklaces will look fabulously around your neck. Also you are here from feb and have only 115 parrots.... yea you discuss a lot mate.
     
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  9. hello friendgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    lol he doesn't work for you man

    why don't you make your own mod

    bitch
     
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  10. SymbolicFrankgender: ⚧ Liturgist

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    Ok. Read half this thread, reinstalled, restarted a few times, played until the sewers, got angry and want to replay Deus Ex instead. Again.

    I might opt for NOLF 1/2 this time.
     
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  12. Old Onegender: ⚧ Magister

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    This thread is discovering its own sexuality.
     
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  13. Make America Great Again Clockwork Knightgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    One of the first things you do in the game, after being infected with "vampirism" (AIDS) during a night of casual sex, is "embracing" a drunk guy in a dark alley and suck on his neck so hard that blood comes out. Meanwhile a smiling biker dude (your "mentor", a wiser, older gay man) watches from the shadows, nodding approvingly. Afterwards he will even tells you that God has forsaken you and if you "go outside" during the day (clear metaphor for coming out of the closet) you will "explode into flames". Later on you and your gay buddy have to run away from "werewolves" (obvious stand-in for homophobes), they are invincible to demonstrate that you can't defeat prejudice with your fists. You have to literally and figuratively slam the door on their (society's) face. And at the end you are invited to open the big box thing and peek inside (tempted into going back inside the closet in order to be successful in business), with the ensuing result of accepting the proposal being a poignant representation of your personal life crumbing into shambles.

    If you play as a female, it's just a game about vampires though.
     
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  14. Old Onegender: ⚧ Magister

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    Of course it's possible that being gay, and thinking about being gay a lot, causes you to read things into the material whether it's actually there or not.

    Vampirism was around long before AIDS, so that's not an obvious allegory. What did vampirism represent before the 1980s? Homosexuals aren't the only people who have casual sex. Grabbing a bum and draining him is more like treating him as food instead of human - also, is it normal for gay men to "embrace" bums? I never knew. I also never noticed Jack "watching." It's more like he stands there indifferently. I don't think it's at all clear that "going outside" is a metaphor for coming out of the closet. "Explode into flames..." Wait, what is that supposed to mean again? You'll start lisping let your hand dangle with a limp wrist? Werewolves are not an "obvious" stand-in for homophobes. They cold just as easily - and more likely - represent the savagery of nature. Also, they're not invincible, so apparently you can defeat prejudice by crushing it. If being gay requires you to slam the door on society, is it any wonder society rejects gay people? Further, I never considered Nines to be my "buddy." He was more like an irritating git I had to put up with - one of many. There is no obvious connection between an ancient sarcophagus and a closet, and "curiosity killed the cat" is a much simpler description for the ending's motivation.

    Things that are "obvious" to you are not obvious to everyone. Objectivity is different from subjectivity.
     
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  15. Lithium Flowergender: ⚧ Learned

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  16. Make America Great Again Clockwork Knightgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    ^^reported for porphyric homophobia

    He's supposed to be jacking off but the animation was cut from the game. Wesp plans to re-introduce it eventually.
     
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  17. Make America Great Again Rogueygender: ⚧ Arcane Sawyerite Sawyerist Sawyer's Bride No Fun Allowed

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    tbh Gary Golden comes across as pretty gay, especially the catty way he talks about the women in the poster emails.
     
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  18. Kev Inklinegender: ⚧ Arcane

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    Most people prefer quality over quantity, you know.

    You have been registered for Codex for 135 days, in which you have written 2304 messages. That means about 17 messages a day. Let's assume that on average they have some content and are not only stupid one liners. Let's assume that it takes 5 minutes to write a post with some thought in it. That means you have spent, on average, about 1.5h a day writing posts in here.

    Furthermore, suppose you spend three times as much time digesting others' posts as writing your own - that would mean 4.5hrs of reading messages per day. In total, you spend about 6hrs a day at codex. Suppose generously you have a day job (lol) which takes another 9 hours including time spent commuting. This does not leave much time for gaming, does it?

    Everything suggests playing rpgs is not your passion, discussing them might be.
     
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  19. fantadomatgender: ⚧ Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    A lot of assumptions here mate. I don't have day job,i do play a lot of rpgs because i have already played and replayed most of them. It is not like rpgs come every week,there is a decent one every six to twelve months. And it takes from 20 to 50 hours to finish it. I do like to alt tab from some game to read a few things on the codex every few hours. Another thing is that i have around 6 hours of sleep per day.

    Is bitching about other users posting habits a quality post? You do sound like very condescending asshole that have achieved true nothingness in his life. What the fuck is to you what i do with my time and how much time i spend on the codex,don't you have anything better to do with your life? Judging by the bullshit math and the retarded assumptions,you must be a journo writing stupid articles about what percent of the gamers are cis white males and how much of them are evil bigots and racists. I am not here to write post that make you feel good. If you what that much quality post,then begin writing with yourself. You know that "One's best company is oneself " right?

    PS:Have played more RPGS thatn you faggot!
     
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  20. Wesp5gender: ⚧ Cipher

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    Why didn't you take the sewer shortcut I introduced in the plus version of the Unofficial Patch ;)?
     
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  21. Kev Inklinegender: ⚧ Arcane

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    They're just questions, fantadomat. In answer to your query, they're written down for me. It's a test designed to provoke an emotional response.
     
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  22. fantadomatgender: ⚧ Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    I feel dissatisfaction from your rebuttal dear sir. I wrote whole essay as an answer,and i hate writing long. This must end in the old fashioned way!
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  23. Delteriusgender: ⚧ Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Good sir, you have failed to follow proper meme protocols.

    :planetickets:
     
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  24. HansDampfgender: ⚧ Savant

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    Ok, now that I'm finished I must say, the True Patch left me rather disappointed. I expected two things: a mostly bug-free experience, and an otherwise unaltered version of the game. I got neither. To be fair, it's possible that I just got unlucky and that I could have encountered many of the same bugs with the Unofficial Patch also. I know the UP isn't exactly bug-free either, but I had never had this many issues in one playthrough. I already mentioned the "no hands" bug that wouldn't let me fight unarmed. Other issues include: Getting stuck in doors and being forced to load a save (the door wouldn't trigger the mapload). Graphical issues, holes in models, missing textures, ugly cubemaps (not a bug, but looks unfinished). Sound effects glitching out or not playing at all (ruined the Hotel). Missing NPC chatter. Music in Hollywood hub not playing properly. That door from "The Tape" didn't open, the girl just clipped through. Physics objects bouncing around at the start of a map. On some occasions the game displayed normal dialogue options instead of Malkavian. And typos, grammatical errors, several instances of your/you're... I don't know what the TP considers a bug. Most of this isn't game-breaking. But would it hurt to correct a typo?

    I'm wondering because the TP doesn't shy away from adding new content either, like the new animations for Therese and Jeanette. After you talk to either of the sisters upstairs they will randomly walk around, take phone calls, work on their laptop, etc.
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    Why is this an exception? Don't get me wrong, I thought they were a nice addition. It's just something I would expect from the Plus Patch, not the True Patch. According to the patch notes these animations were found in the model files after they were decompiled or something, they just weren't used in vanilla. Maybe they weren't intended to be used? The notes are vague on this, so who knows? I could imagine a number puristic arguments against this if this were the UP. The point is, I'm having a hard time believing that a complex and hidden set of animations not being triggered is considered a bug that needed to be "fixed", but obvious typos and grammatical errors in dialogue text aren't. What's the difference between this and other restored content in the UP+? And why isn't this in the UP+, Wesp5?

    Btw, what's up with Tessera? It's like every txt file has to contain a cheap jab at a certain patch which shall not be named. Visit Tessera's forum for technical support, and you'll find every other post of him flavored with childish insults aimed at Wesp. There is even one modded into the game. Wespoop? I don't know what exactly happened between the two or who stole what or who started it. All I know is that it is embarrassing, and it can be really confusing for new players who just want to play a vanilla version of the game with as few bugs as possible. As I see it, the True Patch and the Basic Unofficial Patch should have been one and the same. Why aren't they? This is just sad.

    Overall, the UP delivers a smoother experience (including the setup), and if you wanted to play a truly unaltered version of the game you'd technically have to go with the official 1.2/Legacy version.

    And Wesp, did you lower the music volume in the latest patch?
     
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  25. Delteriusgender: ⚧ Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Tessera and Wesp are both very unconventional modders. One lead a shitposting rebellion in the World of Warcraft forums that caused one of the CMs to snap out of reality. The other is pathologically polite.
     
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