HATRED, aka Awor Surkrarz Simulator 2015

[Valestein]

I get the impression that extra credits doesn't want to accept that video games are low brow entertainment and are a crap medium for storytelling whose only "advantage" over others is interactivity(a dubious one at that).

 

[Jasede]

I think that's not entire true; the art thing.

 

[Jick Magger]

Well, after stopping to listen to the pretentious hipster drivel half-way in, I must say I wasn't missing anything from not having watched EC before.

I remember watching the 'confession' video of the long-haired one, where he tearfully talked about his prior addiction to video games like he's in some rehab help group trying to get off his dependence on heroin. It was one of the most pathetically awkward things I've ever watched in my life.

 

[sser]

Sadism countermands the stilted foundations of that egg basket we call justice. Without the shadowed form passing between the spokes of our malleable existence - wherein modernity is intelligent ignorance bonded with unintelligent arrogance - without that hint of atavism, what are we? Monsters playing peace? No. We are just shut the fuck up and play video games, fucking Christ.

 

[Perkel]

It is said that in early times people would masturbate to each other and then try to resolve their conflict through words.
Back in middle ages people would take their anger and would beat the shit out of their beloved.
Once there was a dog named fluffy. He raped my neighbor and all cats near his house.
It wasn't about dominance of dogs but about patronizing elements in our society that makes us more human.
Frying pan as a medium is being used to achieve greater good but we can't allow dogs to use frying pans. Because frying pans are not about dogs.
So we shouldn't allow dogs use frying pans. We can't let them use tools to achieve their goals. We can't allow our masturbation to go free of charge. Masturbation is not life but a process. It changes our life as dogs can achieve humanity.

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[dbx]

Uh nuh! Virtual violence is directly comparable to raping children. GTFO and take your straw man with you, you buffoon.

what about looking at child pornography? nobody gets hurt, so it's okay, am i rite?

you shouldn't promote all sorts of degeneracy just because people who engage in it are "okay with it"

that's the same kind of rhetoric that's used to promote homosexuality, transvestism, bronies, euthanasia, etc

for example, it's not legal to kill a person even if that person agrees to it

this is the sort of thing that moral relativists have trouble understanding

It's a shitty and retarded argument.
Looking at child pornography is illegal (obviously) because producing child pornography directly harm children;
while looking at virtual/animated child pornography is not illegal in most countries (again for pretty obvious reasons) because it's not real stuff,
it is gross and a sign of mental illness, but that's not enough a reason to make something illegal,
otherwise you are not much different from SJW and their will to punish people for their thoughts.
And this has nothing to do with moral relativism. If you criminalize thoughts, than what's stopping somebody to criminalize YOUR thoughts?

 

[A horse of course]

Criminalize thinking PoE is good

 

[Admiral jimbob]

He's one of those confirmed anti-GG SJW cucks.

the cuck meme.

 

[JarlFrank]

This looks like fun. Killing pixel people is a great way to relieve stress, the gorier the better. Yes, I enjoy playing some Postal 2, cutting limbs off innocent pedestrians, putting them on fire until they crawl crying on the ground, their bodies charred, kicking heads around like footballs. Or GTA and Saints Row, those games are fun too, just driving around like a maniac running over pedestrians and blowing up cars with a bazooka. It's really fucking relaxing to create virtual mayhem.

 

[Farage]

Im not agreeing completely on that Extra Credits episode, but im kinda seeing where they come from there.
I don't like violence, in all means, its something that makes me ill, blood makes me ill too. Its just something that i have.
But i never got "ill" while playing DOOM or Mortal Kombat II and i could barely stand shooting someone in Fallout 3, or slice someone's throat in Skyrim.
I mean, isn't it weird? Virtually, blasting someones face off is... well, blasting someones face off... or is it?
My guess is that as we start to get closer to realism in video games, i start to process this as real violence, and real suffering.
And holy shit man, i don't dig that. I don't like to see people suffering.
Plus this product sole market strategy is to be edgy, which is pretty damn retarded by itself.

 

[Dexter]

Im not agreeing completely on that Extra Credits episode, but im kinda seeing where they come from there.

I don't, I don't think they have a point at all to be honest, I think they went full a while ago.

Aside from the texture of the enemies and a bunch of animations there's not much of a difference between the concept of Hatred or Alien/Zombie Shooter 2/Nation Red and many other top-down shooters: http://store.steampowered.com/app/33120 http://store.steampowered.com/app/33180/ http://store.steampowered.com/app/39800/

It just looks a lot better.

If they painted all the NPCs green and set the story against a "zombie outbreak" with the army working against the player to keep it quarantined or something retarded like that it'd be hailed as a great awesome gory zombie shooter and it just seems hypocritical as fuck. If you can't differentiate between fiction and reality, the problem is usually not with the fiction.

 

[Psquit]

I imagine the "Extra credits" guy to be something like this

Spoiler

 

[a Goat]

i could barely stand shooting someone in Fallout 3, or slice someone's throat in Skyrim..

 

[Sykar]

Uh nuh! Virtual violence is directly comparable to raping children. GTFO and take your straw man with you, you buffoon.

what about looking at child pornography? nobody gets hurt, so it's okay, am i rite?

you shouldn't promote all sorts of degeneracy just because people who engage in it are "okay with it"

that's the same kind of rhetoric that's used to promote homosexuality, transvestism, bronies, euthanasia, etc

for example, it's not legal to kill a person even if that person agrees to it

this is the sort of thing that moral relativists have trouble understanding

Except that these kids were forced to participate in sexual activities. Children cannot consent primarily due to lack of maturity, therefore it is always forced onto them.
Furthermore sadism in which two adults indulge on a consensual basis is just as terrible of a comparison. There are plenty of masochists and sadists out there who gladly indulge in sadomasochistic activities.
Now tell me, how does that correlate to imaginary characters who are made up of basically electrons interpreted by your PC and displayed by your monitor?

 

[Lagole Gon]

I can't believe we are discussing Extra Credits.

Here's some cure for this faggotry.

 

[jcd]

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[lightbane]

I can't believe we are discussing Extra Credits.

Here's some cure for this faggotry.

This game really looks amazing.


GOTY incoming.

 

[Turjan]

Also watched it.

Who greenlighted that shit ? Proper R18+ like in 80' bloodrayne movie would be amazing

Boll found a clever way to siphon off taxpayer money, so it didn't really matter to him whether the movies were good or how they sold.

 

[Havoc]

 

[Sykar]

Now tell me, how does that correlate to imaginary characters who are made up of basically electrons interpreted by your PC and displayed by your monitor?

oh yeah and characters in books are just letters, movies are just arrangements of pixels on the screen and so on right? no reason to treat anything seriously or as a parallel of real life activities, it's ALL AN ILLUSION

I have to apologize. I thought that tag was maybe unfounded but you have just proven to me that you are well deserving of it. Have a pleasant life.

 

[jcd]

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[Sykar]

Now tell me, how does that correlate to imaginary characters who are made up of basically electrons interpreted by your PC and displayed by your monitor?

oh yeah and characters in books are just letters, movies are just arrangements of pixels on the screen and so on right? no reason to treat anything seriously or as a parallel of real life activities, it's ALL AN ILLUSION

I have to apologize. I thought that tag was maybe unfounded but you have just proven to me that you are well deserving of it. Have a pleasant life.

Yes, it proves that I humiliate dumbfucks like yourself on a regular basis.

Ah the sweet delusions you indulge in. Carry on.

 

[supervoid]

Polish interview.
Summary:
Dude was Duke Nukem modder- insanity confirmed.
They are going to release development kit and tutorials how to mod this shit.
He thinks that paid mods are bad idea.
There will be free expansion pack maybe.
He likes Fallout.

 

[GrainWetski]

I can't wait to attack the Polygon office.

 

[Ninja Destroyer]

Polish interview.
Summary:
Dude was Duke Nukem modder- insanity confirmed.
They are going to release development kit and tutorials how to mod this shit.
He thinks that paid mods are bad idea.
There will be free expansion pack maybe.
He likes Fallout.

The guy was Duke3d modder. He likes Kingping, Soldier of Fortune, both Carmageddons. He likes both Fallouts, and the third one too (sic!). Metro didn't grabbed his attention but he loved first Stalker.

There will be editor, and if the game sells well (totally impossible!) they'll make for free new single player maps and some kind of multiplayer additional maps and mods.

There is also much swearing towards our professional western journalists and what not, but that would be lost in the translation.