Decline Game Shilling on Codex: Accepted or Not?

[Lazing Dirk]

Guys let's be civilized

Are you kidding? We're arguing with each other over the idea that someone might be benefiting from promoting a video game on an internet forum. This is practically the peak of civilisation. Just think of how much infrastructure has to be in place to allow this to happen. You'd never see someone from a third world country doing such things, nor would they be capable of it even if they wanted to. We're living the dream!

 

[Excidium II]

Is that why you constantly attack Underrail,

fresh ideas and not riding the nostalgia train are the keyword there

UR was the first CRPG with a legit stealth system

AoD was the first CRPG with uuuuuuuh

 

[makiavelli747]

racofer, you can suck my dick

 

[Mustawd]

AoDgate < Gregzgate

 

[Charles Eli Cheese]

The best praise a man should have for something is adequate or OK. Anything more than that and you lose dignitas.

 

[Excidium II]

The best praise a man should have for something is adequate or OK. Anything more than that and you lose dignitas.

You can peak on p. good occasionally.

 

[hivemind]

AoD was the first CRPG with uuuuuuuh

dialogue teleporting

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Why are AoD fans having metdows suddenly? First Iranian Anus, now makiavelli747. Is it contagious? Should Lurker King and Goral evacuate from the Codex while they still can?

 

[Goral]

Is that why you constantly attack Underrail?

With that said, the exploration in UR is superb (if you think exploration in Gothic was great you should play UR, you can even blow up rubble or use a jackhammer to make your own passage), fights are fun and often challenging forcing you to use your brain instead of mindlessly clicking on an enemy and crafting is quite complex and well developed. I also haven't had that much fun levelling up since Arcanum. All in all the game is enjoyable despite many annoying things I've mentioned above.

tl;dr
Age of Decadence is a better game than UR but UR is a great RPG.

The exploration here is superb (if you think exploration in Gothic was great you should play UR, you can even blow up rubble that blocks your way and make your own passage), fights are fun and often challenging forcing you to use your brain instead of mindlessly clicking on an enemy, crafting is quite complex and well developed, character creation is well designed and allows for different builds and different playthroughs (not as good as in Age of Decadence though). The plot and dialogues are decent and even though most quests are fetch/kill quests there are many very interesting ones so that the player wouldn't get bored.

The game isn't without flaws of course. My main gripe with this game is that you can't run here and travelling is so slow. Due to this about half of your gameplay time will be spent on walking from point A to B. It's not as bad as in Bethesda games though where locations are bloated so that the world would seem bigger. You also can't buy or sell what you need/want because vendors will only buy specific items and in low numbers. The end game also sucks, the last level is just tedious and stupidly designed. http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...awakens-released.105387/page-151#post-4319112

There is an old demo available, you can try it first. Although for this price you should buy it, it's definitely worth it.

Plus if the rest was great no one here would complain about graphics, just look at SitS, AoD, Underrail or Neo Scavenger.

And on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091764097/recommended/250520

There are more examples like this but you get the picture. If saying it's a worse game than AoD is "attacking" then yeah, I'm attacking :D.

 

[makiavelli747]

dialogue teleporting

stupid bitch

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

AoD was the first CRPG with uuuuuuuh

dialogue teleporting

Fallout and multiple NWN modules already had it.

 

[Mustawd]

Why are AoD fans having metdows suddenly?

I think cuz DR sales seem to be mediocre? It's almost as if they fear ITS will fold completely if they don't shill their hardest.

 

[an Administrator]

I ain't an AoD fan

 

[makiavelli747]

now makiavelli747.

i'm high, i don't give a fuck
love the Codex, by the way...

 

[Maculo]

When someone is doing that shit 24/7 then something is not alright. They shutdown any discussion about AoD criticism.

I understand that you don't care about this situation because it is in your favor. I would feel the same.

However they are fucking pest for this forum and wherever they go. But who the fuck cares as long as it good for AoD sales.

You really think that when someone reads Goral's posts on the Codex they feel a strong and sudden urge to buy the game?

They shilled on codex, rpgwatch, steam, gog, metacritic, rps and others. It's a nice operation even if you did not ask for it.

There is one occurrence on Steam where Goral managed to direct a person interested in Underrail towards AoD. However I don't have the time to search again now therefore I cannot guarantee for it.

Also one more time: I don't attack AoD and I'm not blaming you for anything.

My issues are with them: trolling each thread pretending that they are honest parties when in fact they have an agenda. It's really frustrating to talk to walls.

Making an account for rps and rpgwatch? Isn't that like Gay-for-Pay without the pay part?

Just promise you will not make an account with neogaf.

 

[Trashos]

Is that why you constantly attack Underrail,

fresh ideas and not riding the nostalgia train are the keyword there

UR was the first CRPG with a legit stealth system

AoD was the first CRPG with uuuuuuuh

....both great story and combat.

 

[an Administrator]

You also can't buy or sell what you need/want because vendors will only buy specific items and in low numbers

t. Al Fabet

 

[hivemind]

i'm high, i don't give a fuck
love the Codex, by the way...

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Is that why you constantly attack Underrail,

fresh ideas and not riding the nostalgia train are the keyword there

UR was the first CRPG with a legit stealth system

AoD was the first CRPG with uuuuuuuh

....both great story and combat.

Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne, also AoD story wasn't really great.

 

[makiavelli747]

i'm high, i don't give a fuck
love the Codex, by the way...

i can tell a bitch when i see one
no matter how high i am

 

[toro]

A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization.

It pretty much covers the situation.

What close relationship? Are they working for us? No. Did we ask them to spread awareness? No. They are enthusiastic fans who happened to like AoD a lot. I'm sorry that it bothers you a LOT, but that's all there's to it.

1) They are part of you testing group which implies that you have off-forum conversations with them (mail, messenger and so on).

2) They used your forum to coordinate this kind of operation.

In fact in that thread Goral is spewing confidential information like this:

How the fuck does he know that the game is not selling too well?

3) You were part of this operation - with intention or without intention.

He down-voted all the negative reviews regardless of the fact that they made sense or not. And you thanked him.

Nice attitude dude. You basically gave the order to these morons: "Negative reviews are fair game!".

In conclusion: the assumption that you have a close relationship with them is not far fetched and the assumption that they are shills is solid. They are idiots for not getting paid but that's not my problem.






And you can bet I have a problem with this shit for the following reasons:

1) They shilled hard in the "The Age of Incline: RPG Codex's 2012-2016 GOTY Results" thread.

There are clues that vote manipulation took place and AoD was one of the games that profited the most.

2) These are toxic posters which deform, derail and destroy any kind of criticism for AoD.

The perverse thing is that they are covering their backs therefore it's hard to drag them in the open.

3) There is no comparison with Underrail in this department.

Nobody from the Underrail sub-forum was engaged in this kind of bullshit.




You should put a leash on your rabid dogs.

 

[Goral]

Why are AoD fans having metdows suddenly? First Iranian Anus, now makiavelli747. Is it contagious? Should Lurker King and Goral evacuate from the Codex while they still can?

What do you call toro's behaviour then? Look at this thread or this one: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...e-broken-man-courtesy-of-deep-caverns.112978/ (the second thread is doubly hilarious not only because he's showing his meltdown and stalkery tendencies but also because he said EXACT SAME THING as me)

Fake edit:
Looking at toro's newest post I'm wondering whether he's trolling or if he really is that delusional.

 

[Charles Eli Cheese]

The best praise a man should have for something is adequate or OK. Anything more than that and you lose dignitas.

You can peak on p. good occasionally.

I try to reserve that kind of exuberant praise for my lady wife, if I ever get married in the future.

 

[racofer]

A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization.

It pretty much covers the situation.

What close relationship? Are they working for us? No. Did we ask them to spread awareness? No. They are enthusiastic fans who happened to like AoD a lot. I'm sorry that it bothers you a LOT, but that's all there's to it.

1) They are part of you testing group which implies that you have off-forum conversations with them (mail, messenger and so on).

2) They used your forum to coordinate this kind of operation.

In fact in that thread Goral is spewing confidential information like this:

How the fuck does he know that the game is not selling too well?

There is this thing called SteamSpy: http://steamspy.com/app/230070

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Why are AoD fans having metdows suddenly? First Iranian Anus, now makiavelli747. Is it contagious? Should Lurker King and Goral evacuate from the Codex while they still can?

What do you call toro's behaviour then? Look at this thread or this one: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...e-broken-man-courtesy-of-deep-caverns.112978/ (the second thread is doubly hilarious not only because he's showing his meltdown and stalkery tendencies but also because he said EXACT SAME THING as me)

Fake edit:
Looking at toro's newest post I'm wondering whether he's trolling or if he really is that delusional.

Haha, I was just wondering if it can spread from non-AoD fanboys to normal posters.

toro
That last post was a bit too much, don't you think?