Vapourware Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Remake from Saber Interactive

[Atlantico]

The Romans were not written, they were. And here's what they were not: always two of them and always the apprentice trying to unseat the master. Because that's patently retarded.

Always two of them are, the Emperor and the Pretorian Prefect. One to embody Power, the other to desire it.

lol no

Augustus to Tiberius to Caligula to Claudius to Nero to Galba and so on. None of them were Praetorian. (this is going to be a running theme btw)

Not Otho, not Vitellius, not Vespasian — though his son Titus was in fact a praetorian prefect, but he was also his son and heir. So that doesn't really hold up.

Domitian, Titus' son, was not a praetorian prefect.

Certainly not Nerva. Or Trajan or his adopted son Hadrian or his adopted son Antoninus Pius.

It is truly a mystery how co-emperors Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus and Commudus fit into this nonsense theory. Because they don't. Not only did they reign two at a time, but none of them — nor any mentioned before — was a Praetorian prefect or otherwise.

Those are the first 250 years of the Roman Empire and never was there this scenario you bring up as "always". So no, it's the opposite, *never* in the first quarter millennium. Never.

Philip The Arab was a pretorian prefect. You were just a few years short of those 250

Yes. That's why it isn't presented as the rule, rather the exception of the rule

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

The Romans were not written, they were. And here's what they were not: always two of them and always the apprentice trying to unseat the master. Because that's patently retarded.

Always two of them are, the Emperor and the Pretorian Prefect. One to embody Power, the other to desire it.

lol no

Augustus to Tiberius to Caligula to Claudius to Nero to Galba and so on. None of them were Praetorian. (this is going to be a running theme btw)

Not Otho, not Vitellius, not Vespasian — though his son Titus was in fact a praetorian prefect, but he was also his son and heir. So that doesn't really hold up.

Domitian, Titus' son, was not a praetorian prefect.

Certainly not Nerva. Or Trajan or his adopted son Hadrian or his adopted son Antoninus Pius.

It is truly a mystery how co-emperors Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus and Commudus fit into this nonsense theory. Because they don't. Not only did they reign two at a time, but none of them — nor any mentioned before — was a Praetorian prefect or otherwise.

Those are the first 250 years of the Roman Empire and never was there this scenario you bring up as "always". So no, it's the opposite, *never* in the first quarter millennium. Never.

Philip The Arab was a pretorian prefect. You were just a few years short of those 250

Yes. That's why it isn't presented as the rule, rather the exception of the rule

Sidious was also an exception to the rule, just like Philip the Arab.

 

[Atlantico]

The Romans were not written, they were. And here's what they were not: always two of them and always the apprentice trying to unseat the master. Because that's patently retarded.

Always two of them are, the Emperor and the Pretorian Prefect. One to embody Power, the other to desire it.

lol no

Augustus to Tiberius to Caligula to Claudius to Nero to Galba and so on. None of them were Praetorian. (this is going to be a running theme btw)

Not Otho, not Vitellius, not Vespasian — though his son Titus was in fact a praetorian prefect, but he was also his son and heir. So that doesn't really hold up.

Domitian, Titus' son, was not a praetorian prefect.

Certainly not Nerva. Or Trajan or his adopted son Hadrian or his adopted son Antoninus Pius.

It is truly a mystery how co-emperors Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus and Commudus fit into this nonsense theory. Because they don't. Not only did they reign two at a time, but none of them — nor any mentioned before — was a Praetorian prefect or otherwise.

Those are the first 250 years of the Roman Empire and never was there this scenario you bring up as "always". So no, it's the opposite, *never* in the first quarter millennium. Never.

Philip The Arab was a pretorian prefect. You were just a few years short of those 250

Yes. That's why it isn't presented as the rule, rather the exception of the rule

Sidious was also an exception to the rule, just like Philip the Arab.

Maybe we should just drop the Roman comparison

 

[ERYFKRAD]

The Romans were not written, they were. And here's what they were not: always two of them and always the apprentice trying to unseat the master. Because that's patently retarded.

Always two of them are, the Emperor and the Pretorian Prefect. One to embody Power, the other to desire it.

lol no

Augustus to Tiberius to Caligula to Claudius to Nero to Galba and so on. None of them were Praetorian. (this is going to be a running theme btw)

Not Otho, not Vitellius, not Vespasian — though his son Titus was in fact a praetorian prefect, but he was also his son and heir. So that doesn't really hold up.

Domitian, Titus' son, was not a praetorian prefect.

Certainly not Nerva. Or Trajan or his adopted son Hadrian or his adopted son Antoninus Pius.

It is truly a mystery how co-emperors Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus and Commudus fit into this nonsense theory. Because they don't. Not only did they reign two at a time, but none of them — nor any mentioned before — was a Praetorian prefect or otherwise.

Those are the first 250 years of the Roman Empire and never was there this scenario you bring up as "always". So no, it's the opposite, *never* in the first quarter millennium. Never.

Philip The Arab was a pretorian prefect. You were just a few years short of those 250

Yes. That's why it isn't presented as the rule, rather the exception of the rule

Sidious was also an exception to the rule, just like Philip the Arab.

Maybe we should just drop the Roman comparison

Yeah it's very confusing when you throw Philip of Arabia in it too.

 

[SpaceWizardz]

Sony has pulled the Announcement trailer and is scrubbing all mention of this on their side.

 

[StrongBelwas]

Given Embracer's current mess, a large, expensive project like this seems like one of the first things they'd kill off. But I guess there isn't a formal announcement yet.

 

[SpaceWizardz]

Saber has been doing pretty well for themselves relative to their other studios so I don't think they're getting EMBRACE'D just yet.
May be that they're doing something different now (Hopefully more like BG3?) and Sony just doesn't want to be involved anymore, that's very optimistic though.

 

[Jaesun]

It will likely be canned again like most Bioware projects these days.

And you were right.

 

[Bulo]

You cannot win, Revan! The Force is female!

On a serious note, I'm disappointed to hear that this is likely dead. Modding the first game is a pain in the neck, and a number of its features weren't future-proofed

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

Modding the first game is a pain in the neck

Modding KotOR 1&2 is easy af. Just about every mod goes into a single folder.

 

[Bulo]

Modding the first game is a pain in the neck

Modding KotOR 1&2 is easy af. Just about every mod goes into a single folder.

I could barely get the first game running once modded, and when I did it was prone to crashing. It quickly became more hassle than it was worth. Admittedly, my choice of mods may have been to blame. TSL was surprisingly stable

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

Modding the first game is a pain in the neck

Modding KotOR 1&2 is easy af. Just about every mod goes into a single folder.

I could barely get the first game running once modded, and when I did it was prone to crashing. It quickly became more hassle than it was worth. Admittedly, my choice of mods may have been to blame. TSL was surprisingly stable

Did it run without the mods? Whenever I hear tales of crashing in K1 I immediately assume a problem with hardware, particularly AMD cards. Mods themselves rarely ctd, unless perhaps you bogged the game down with tonnes of 4k textures or some shit. For reference, my own override usually has ~70 mods running at once, some major, mostly minor and the game never crashes.

 

[Bulo]

Modding the first game is a pain in the neck

Modding KotOR 1&2 is easy af. Just about every mod goes into a single folder.

I could barely get the first game running once modded, and when I did it was prone to crashing. It quickly became more hassle than it was worth. Admittedly, my choice of mods may have been to blame. TSL was surprisingly stable

Did it run without the mods? Whenever I hear tales of crashing in K1 I immediately assume a problem with hardware, particularly AMD cards. Mods themselves rarely ctd, unless perhaps you bogged the game down with tonnes of 4k textures or some shit.

It did. And yes, AMD is likely to blame

 

[Infinitron]

They even deleted tweets about it:

 

[Cyberarmy]

RİP in pepperonni and good riddance.

 

[Kem0sabe]

They even deleted tweets about it:

Why tho? Them trying to erase this from the Internet is completely uncalled for.

 

[Storyfag]

They even deleted tweets about it:

Why tho? Them trying to erase this from the Internet is completely uncalled for.

As well as futile...

 

[Bester]

Saber still working on this, they didn't get any memos.

 

[Hammer Of The Heretics]

In $CURRENT_YEAR you have to figure out what's happening based on what is not said and what has been edited into nonexistence.

Paging Mr. Orwell, Mr. George Orwell...

 

[Vyvian]

Thank god, I hope it stays dead but I know better.
If only Bloodlines 2 would suffer the same fate before it's allowed to violate the memory of Bloodlines.

 

[NecroLord]

Thank god, I hope it stays dead but I know better.
If only Bloodlines 2 would suffer the same fate before it's allowed to violate the memory of Bloodlines.

If only modern "remakes" stayed true to the vision of the originals and only improved graphics and fixed stuff on the side...
But, nope.

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

If only modern "remakes" stayed true to the vision of the originals and only improved graphics and fixed stuff on the side...
But, nope

Were we not inhabiting Clown World and some of the past talent remained at Bioware, I would pay good money for an expansion pack on the same engine with the same graphics to match the original. I quite like the early 3D aesthetic of KotOR. Expand the pool of powers and abilities, add some new sidequests and party interactions across all planets, maybe add a new module here or there. Develop Sleheyron as intended and put it back into the main quest, and let us go down to Yavin to loot some of Naga Sadow's temples.

Honestly, I'm surprised and see no good reason why nothing has been done with it considering that both its predecessors (BG & NWN), not to mention other games like Titan Quest have or are about to get new expansions released decades after launch. I suppose it's for the best the morons haven't noticed though.

 

[Infinitron]

https://kotaku.com/star-wars-knights-republic-kotor-remake-ps5-canceled-1850885369

Update 9/29/2023 11:54 a.m. ET: A spokesperson for Sony said the KOTOR remake trailer was delisted over licensing issues. “As part of normal business, we delist assets with licensed music when the licenses expire,” they told Kotaku in an email. The only music in the trailer seems to be the main Star Wars theme which is owned by Disney.

 

[Elttharion]

 

[Infinitron]