Hammer Of The Heretics
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And that's why the government should ban videogames.Because players make decisions that go against their best interest and need to be protected from themselves
And that's why the government should ban videogames.Because players make decisions that go against their best interest and need to be protected from themselves
On one playthrough I just snuck over and popped him in the head no problem.And this approach also invites experimentation, unlike New Vegas, where you want to get those 100 speech points because fighting Lanius is a PITA in this gamebryo thing.
Sawyer really wants to make Final Fantasy with skillchecks
Josh basically advocating the destruction of role playing in CRPG.
Josh basically advocating the destruction of role playing in CRPG.
While you do your due dilligence and separate attributes from skills, be sure to implicitly split almost every class into two of tank/damage-dealer/buff-caster subclasses to completely undo whatever meaning classes have.
Josh basically advocating the destruction of role playing in CRPG.
I honestly think it's hard to tell if they really don't understand it or if they do and they're just being disingenuous haters. I don't think it's that hard of a concept to grasp.But that sort of thing is probably extremely time-consuming dev-wise. Like a lot of the best stuff in Baldur's Gate 3 are the tiny outside-of-combat details and all those little things take time and money to implement that a lot of studios just can't do under the traditional publishing system and judging from the reaction to ropekid's comments on that tweet and the tweet itself, a lot of people fail to understand this.
It is very funny to see it reduced to "you guys need to work harder if you want our respect". Sorry but the difference between a $10M budget and a $100M budget isn't that the individual developers on the latter all work 10x as hard.
From my perspective, the bars of scope and production value for a D&Dlike party-based fantasy CRPG.All the argument around it seems kind of pointless now- what raised bar?
It's a concern I have for smaller companies that continue to work in the space like, e.g., Owlcat, Tactical Adventures, GrapeOcean, etc.Is this a concern you have for Avowed, or any potential PoE3?
I'm just curious and if you can't answer I understand
I don't personally think Avowed is comparable in terms of type of game and PoE3 is nonexistent/irrelevant.
FPS RPGs are already a space where developers spend huge amounts of money.
E: Oh, no I don’t think Avowed being successful would make PoE3 happen; it would make Avowed 2 happen.
BG3 being successful is more likely to make other "iso" party-based D&Dlike fantasy RPGs happen.
Deadfire's solution to skill checks was one of the few good innovations they've done. Traditional approach where Fighter can't be a sweet talker has always been utterly retarded.
For the same reason I always saw Bard as RPGs biggest cancer, it's patently absurd to have a specialized class dedicated to roleplaying and interacting with the game.
Realistic approach if I ever saw one.Deadfire's solution to skill checks was one of the few good innovations they've done. Traditional approach where Fighter can't be a sweet talker has always been utterly retarded.
For the same reason I always saw Bard as RPGs biggest cancer, it's patently absurd to have a specialized class dedicated to roleplaying and interacting with the game.
While I understand where he's coming, he's working for Obsidian, who are now owned by Microsoft. As far as I've seen Microsoft isn't some Activison-like corporation for the game companies they own, they're very lenient with them. to the point things like Redfall come out in the way they did. And from what I've heard this is the case with Obsidian too. With Outer Worlds they let them do whatever they wanted, only checking in every now and then to see progress being made. Josh himself got to make his own personal passion project out of it.I honestly think it's hard to tell if they really don't understand it or if they do and they're just being disingenuous haters. I don't think it's that hard of a concept to grasp.But that sort of thing is probably extremely time-consuming dev-wise. Like a lot of the best stuff in Baldur's Gate 3 are the tiny outside-of-combat details and all those little things take time and money to implement that a lot of studios just can't do under the traditional publishing system and judging from the reaction to ropekid's comments on that tweet and the tweet itself, a lot of people fail to understand this.
It is very funny to see it reduced to "you guys need to work harder if you want our respect". Sorry but the difference between a $10M budget and a $100M budget isn't that the individual developers on the latter all work 10x as hard.
Sounds like something a woman would saymost of BG3's best parts aren't the combat, or the plot, or the story, it's the little details that show care.
You say Obsidian doesn't focus more on reactivity and then cite a recent Obsidian game's well-done reactivity.While I understand where he's coming, he's working for Obsidian, who are now owned by Microsoft. As far as I've seen Microsoft isn't some Activison-like corporation for the game companies they own, they're very lenient with them. to the point things like Redfall come out in the way they did. And from what I've heard this is the case with Obsidian too. With Outer Worlds they let them do whatever they wanted, only checking in every now and then to see progress being made. Josh himself got to make his own personal passion project out of it.
Not every game needs to be BG3's size, and not every company should be expected to deliver such a product, but why wouldn't consumers expect big companies known for their reactive RPGs to step up and follow up on it? It's on the very own comment he's replying to, most of BG3's best parts aren't the combat, or the plot, or the story, it's the little details that show care. I wouldn't in a million years thought they would've bothered to actually implement a mechanic in-game that reflects Gale's backstory - either the ability you get which literally doesn't have a practical use nor the cheap cutscenes for it if you meet the criteria through gameplay - but the fact that they integrated it shows someone cared about it enough to combine both game and story together. They saw an opportunity to have an unique element that molds a player's unique playthrough and gives Gale an unique flavour to his character even if for all intents and porpuses it's just an icon and 3 separate 30 second inengine cutscenes. Isn't that what RPG's most excel at? Reactivity?
It doesn't have to be something big. It doesn't have to even be impressive. It just needs to be there, like being able to have dinner with any family in Pentiment. Show me you care, just don't stick to a formula.
I'm not saying they don't do it, if anything I'm saying they should focus on making more games like Pentiment and less like Outer Worlds. Josh saying it's not viable is laughable when he's the entire reason that game exists.You say Obsidian doesn't focus more on reactivity and then cite a recent Obsidian game's well-done reactivity.While I understand where he's coming, he's working for Obsidian, who are now owned by Microsoft. As far as I've seen Microsoft isn't some Activison-like corporation for the game companies they own, they're very lenient with them. to the point things like Redfall come out in the way they did. And from what I've heard this is the case with Obsidian too. With Outer Worlds they let them do whatever they wanted, only checking in every now and then to see progress being made. Josh himself got to make his own personal passion project out of it.
Not every game needs to be BG3's size, and not every company should be expected to deliver such a product, but why wouldn't consumers expect big companies known for their reactive RPGs to step up and follow up on it? It's on the very own comment he's replying to, most of BG3's best parts aren't the combat, or the plot, or the story, it's the little details that show care. I wouldn't in a million years thought they would've bothered to actually implement a mechanic in-game that reflects Gale's backstory - either the ability you get which literally doesn't have a practical use nor the cheap cutscenes for it if you meet the criteria through gameplay - but the fact that they integrated it shows someone cared about it enough to combine both game and story together. They saw an opportunity to have an unique element that molds a player's unique playthrough and gives Gale an unique flavour to his character even if for all intents and porpuses it's just an icon and 3 separate 30 second inengine cutscenes. Isn't that what RPG's most excel at? Reactivity?
It doesn't have to be something big. It doesn't have to even be impressive. It just needs to be there, like being able to have dinner with any family in Pentiment. Show me you care, just don't stick to a formula.
TOW was Tim and Leonard's deliberate attempt to make a polished hit and they were successful in that goal. You'll have to wait to see what the bigger-and-presumably-better Outer Worlds 2 is like, might give you what you want.I'm not saying they don't do it, if anything I'm saying they should focus on making more games like Pentiment and less like Outer Worlds. Josh saying it's not viable is laughable when he's the entire reason that game exists.
We'll see, but so far I wouldn't bet on it. Outer Worlds also had other problems besides a severe lack of details.TOW was Tim and Leonard's deliberate attempt to make a polished hit and they were successful in that goal. You'll have to wait to see what the bigger-and-presumably-better Outer Worlds 2 is like, might give you what you want.I'm not saying they don't do it, if anything I'm saying they should focus on making more games like Pentiment and less like Outer Worlds. Josh saying it's not viable is laughable when he's the entire reason that game exists.
I think the setting being entirely within a 'sailing/pirate' theme was a bad choice. I liked PoE1 quite a bit but the setting change was off-putting in the initial marketing. Even after playing it I've yet to finish it and the tonal changes, especially in returning characters, is my main turnoff to this day.Deadfire is weird everyone agrees they did most of the crucial things right but still feel as if something is lacking and no one can point out exactly what it is. It's as if someone put a curse on Sawyer that every game he makes should turn out to be hollow.