Elzair
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Have any other codexers read any articles by Sean Malstrom?
I was quite amused by the what game made you a gamer post. It is wonderful to see that even codexers, who appear to loathe modern 'dumbed-down' 'mindless' games and have begrudging respect for only the most hard-core CRPG classics of a bygone era (either in terms of difficulty i.e. Pools of Darkness or in terms of depth i.e. Planescape: Torment), mostly grew interested in gaming by playing platformers and arcade-style games. It is also interesting to see that, after a casual perusal of the responses, the NES (and the Atari) appear to lead the pack just as Malstrom would predict (NOTE: scroll down to "Dawn of Classical Gaming" to read the relevant bit). It is interesting that so many codexers would start on a system that was decried by the hardcore gamers of twenty years ago.
I was wondering what other codexers thought about his vision of the future. Despite not liking non-hardcore games much, his vision of the future (NOTE: scroll down to "The Untouched Continent" to read the relevant bit) is quite appealing. For one thing, I see that gaming appears to have stagnated, and any 'improvements' come from unsustainable cost increases, so I welcome anything that could shake up this industry. Otherwise, we will likely see a crash just as bad as the one in the early '80s.
For another thing, I can see the political advantages of a massive influx of new gamers, since they would shatter the stereotype of gamers as shiftless, socially awkward, possibly violent man-children that has developed over the last fifteen years. While the stereotype does have some truth to it (except the violent part, of course), it is still a harmful stigmatization of a minority group by a society at large. Like many other stigmatized minorities, gamers were soon targeted both by opportunistic individuals, such as Jack Thompson, and opportunistic politicians, and this led to the (mostly forced) implementation of the ESRB in the US and the outright banning of certain games in other countries. However, gamers are not blocked from social acceptance by barriers as high as genetics and culture. An increase in the number of gamers (and a corresponding decrease of the gamer stereotype) would do more to prevent these abuses than any Gamer PAC ever could.
Finally, I also want to cheer on Nintendo out of spite. I mostly shifted from consoles to PCs in the 2000, which, according to Shamus Young was the Golden Age of PC gaming. Since then, I have watched all the hardcore idiots desert the platform for the bloody consoles I fled! (namely the PS and its MS clone) I tell you that it will be incredibly sweet watching them get hoisted by their own petard.
So, what does everyone think? Do the theories make sense? Are the outcomes acceptable, or even (Guardian forbid) desirable?
I was quite amused by the what game made you a gamer post. It is wonderful to see that even codexers, who appear to loathe modern 'dumbed-down' 'mindless' games and have begrudging respect for only the most hard-core CRPG classics of a bygone era (either in terms of difficulty i.e. Pools of Darkness or in terms of depth i.e. Planescape: Torment), mostly grew interested in gaming by playing platformers and arcade-style games. It is also interesting to see that, after a casual perusal of the responses, the NES (and the Atari) appear to lead the pack just as Malstrom would predict (NOTE: scroll down to "Dawn of Classical Gaming" to read the relevant bit). It is interesting that so many codexers would start on a system that was decried by the hardcore gamers of twenty years ago.
I was wondering what other codexers thought about his vision of the future. Despite not liking non-hardcore games much, his vision of the future (NOTE: scroll down to "The Untouched Continent" to read the relevant bit) is quite appealing. For one thing, I see that gaming appears to have stagnated, and any 'improvements' come from unsustainable cost increases, so I welcome anything that could shake up this industry. Otherwise, we will likely see a crash just as bad as the one in the early '80s.
For another thing, I can see the political advantages of a massive influx of new gamers, since they would shatter the stereotype of gamers as shiftless, socially awkward, possibly violent man-children that has developed over the last fifteen years. While the stereotype does have some truth to it (except the violent part, of course), it is still a harmful stigmatization of a minority group by a society at large. Like many other stigmatized minorities, gamers were soon targeted both by opportunistic individuals, such as Jack Thompson, and opportunistic politicians, and this led to the (mostly forced) implementation of the ESRB in the US and the outright banning of certain games in other countries. However, gamers are not blocked from social acceptance by barriers as high as genetics and culture. An increase in the number of gamers (and a corresponding decrease of the gamer stereotype) would do more to prevent these abuses than any Gamer PAC ever could.
Finally, I also want to cheer on Nintendo out of spite. I mostly shifted from consoles to PCs in the 2000, which, according to Shamus Young was the Golden Age of PC gaming. Since then, I have watched all the hardcore idiots desert the platform for the bloody consoles I fled! (namely the PS and its MS clone) I tell you that it will be incredibly sweet watching them get hoisted by their own petard.
So, what does everyone think? Do the theories make sense? Are the outcomes acceptable, or even (Guardian forbid) desirable?