No, what I am trying to say is that Bard is very niche class who gives often useless competence bonus in a quite minor quantities and who is only good for low bab ray-casters and some rare spell-like abilities users.
Wtf, rage is only melee bonus, how many melee do you need?! I never need more than two. Others are casters or some kind of Archer. And then you add a Skald that just wastes a spot giving a minor additional bonus to those 2 melee dudes while giving nothing useful to other 3 (and itself). Bard gives bonus to everyone and they can all use it.
Come on, I have explained this already Reckless Stance is UNIVERSAL ab bonus, it works on archers.
Even without modifying the game, you can reach caster level 28 with a Legend by taking 8 prestige class levels with spell advancement before level 20, so you could theoretically go for a leveling pattern something like Oracle 4/Wizard 6/MT 10/Wizard 12/Oracle 8 which would eventually get you to Wizard caster level 28 and Oracle caster level 22. If you choose lich as your mythic path before going Legend you'd also qualify for 10th level wizard spells that way, and with a merged book you'd still be a good arcane caster when you hit Mythic Rank 4.
Let the force flow through you, Luke.Come on, I have explained this already Reckless Stance is UNIVERSAL ab bonus, it works on archers.
For example my freshly recruited lvl 8 Skald can give + 5 AC to everyone:
Or +6 Attack to my sniper rowdy, and everyone else, at the price of -4 AC
He also gives 2 additional attacks to my doggy with any song, extra bite too when Skald hits lvl 9:
And all of this will scale higher and higher, iirc to +12 both AC and AB.
His song is just a constructor, with excessive use of Extra Rage Power feat he could gather shitton of Barb goodies, from Stances to fear Immune and AoE DR 6/-.
PS With so many pics I feel like fucking desi-desi.
Skald can fight in melee and with Azata (there are no Skald companions) can also beat saves. The bonus isn’t minor.
Or just play an INT-based w/Prestige then tack on the MT once you unlock Legend. You don’t have to beat saves on both halves of MT so don’t need an insane caster stat for the second half. MT lets you unload buffs and situational stuff to one half so the other gets more offensive casts.
I never take that as I don't want AC penalty so I don't see that as a useful bonus. And this is again not a damage bonus. Bard gives me bonus attack and damage with no AC penalty. And works on everyone.Come on, I have explained this already Reckless Stance is UNIVERSAL ab bonus, it works on archers.
For example my freshly recruited lvl 8 Skald can give + 5 AC to everyone:
Or +6 Attack to my sniper rowdy, and everyone else, at the price of -4 AC
He also gives 2 additional attacks to my doggy with any song, extra bite too when Skald hits lvl 9:
And all of this will scale higher and higher, iirc to +12 both AC and AB.
His song is just a constructor, with excessive use of Extra Rage Power feat he could gather shitton of Barb goodies, from Stances to fear Immune and AoE DR 6/-.
PS With so many pics I feel like fucking desi-desi.
Maybe Skald is useful for Unfair where you want to find any additional +1 to attack so you are willing to sacrifice in other ways but for Core I don't see how it is more useful than Bard unless you got a really heavy melee party with no medium bab caster melee characters that will lose access to all their spells they need to be useful.
There is whole category of what I call "crutch" characters in my head - Skald, Brownfur Transmuter, Sensei, Paladin with Mark of Justice, domain focused cleric/inquisitor etc. Any of those are powerful enough supports for me to elevate even most mediocre party (filled with medium bab martials usually) to be comfortable on Hard. It feels weird to shove more than one of those into group, but I like to have curve-breaking options at hand when shit hits the fan - and in rogue like it happens often enough with... let call them artefacts of random generation.
I agree with that, and I said that multiple times but people keep claiming it is just superior to Bard overall.
I saw the Vampire Fencers, at least on Core their AC was nothing special, they mostly die in surprise round like about 80% of enemies.
Core > Hard is the biggest difficulty jump between the standard levels, imho. I've played Last Azlanti Core recently and was surprised how much faceroll it was.
Yes they stack. I had Barb with AB bonuses from two stances once, when I've rolled tailwind that buffed skalds and barbarians. And the best Skald archetype is arguably vanilla Skald.
Second tier of animal totem gives stackable +AC bonus. My Skald has 3 modes:
It is because the Rage Powers scale themselves. Its like picking up a new scaling Song every three lvls and they all stack. Bard isn’t necessarily the best parallel even with the same spellbook because its so much easier to duplicate what you got from Good Hope in P:K.
You’re better off with a balance of Ranged and Melee and with Reckless that lets whole party benefit from Skald instead of just melee. You can manage the AC malus with tactics/reach etc.
Freebooter/Demonslayer Bond, Alch Infusions, etc…
Skald gets Extra Rage Power feat. He can have, well, not everything, but most of what you desire.
Lol except my Skald is my main caster because he can cast with Rage up and gets Favorable + Ode from Azata (and another melee to use buffs in Aivu). Plus I was on Battle Scion so was taking Shake it Off and Outflank (and Back to Back maybe?) as well. Good way to tide team over until Azata TW Superpower.Skald gets Extra Rage Power feat. He can have, well, not everything, but most of what you desire.
Reckless Stance
Inspire Ferocity
Guarded Stance
Beast Totem, Small
Beast Totem, Medium
Animal Fury
Rolling Dodge
And he has extra combat feats, so he can be passable archer/melee too.
I play on Core+, Core but I turn on that option that lets enemies get some special AI or something. I never fought Noticula so I don't know if she could use this ability or not.
