Any thoughts on xcom 2?

[Cadmus]

MMX was less of an Ubisoft game than Skyrim even though it had that brand slapped on it. I thought it was great.

 

[Jimmious]

XCOM 2 is a great game if you accept the fact that it's a completely different experience than the old X-COM games.
As we discussed in the main thread of the game, it's more like a board game with a lot of nifty mechanics. It's great at that, a lot of fun.

 

[Black]

XCOM 2 is a great game if you accept the fact that it's a completely different experience than the old X-COM games.

Uh huh, that's why it got pretty mediocre user rating on steam, bullshit bugs (or design, who knows) like broken line of sight, being able to see and be seen through solid floors, missing on 100% chance to hit.
From everything I read/see about it it looks like it should still be in development for at least a year.
But at least they got dlc planned already.

 

[Jimmious]

The rating on steam is due to people getting out of their comfort zone due to a change in mechanics from XCOM1(addition of timers in many missions).
Also there are apparently a lot of performance issues but I personally don't have any problems.
There are bugs of course but...who expects a bug-free release these days? Not anything game breaking though.
Plus the mod support is fucking fantastic, I'm already playing with like 7-8 of them. There are around 200 available already with any kind of bullshit you can imagine. From mechanical changes to fucking sombreros

 

[ArchAngel]

I hope since Xcom 2 is more moddable someone implements real AI for aliens and gives them all patrol routes from cover to cover and removes alien free move on discovery as well as the stupid pod system.

 

[Raghar]

I hope since Xcom 2 is more moddable someone implements real AI for aliens and gives them all patrol routes from cover to cover and removes alien free move on discovery as well as the stupid pod system.

Why from cover to cover? Until they'd get attacked they should walk normally.

 

[Black]

The rating on steam is due to people getting out of their comfort zone due to a change in mechanics from XCOM1(addition of timers in many missions).

Sure, don't let people being disappointed in this broken bugfest get in the way of your apologism.

There are bugs of course but...who expects a bug-free release these days? Not anything game breaking though.

Nigga, I ain't talking about silly bugs that can be worked around. I'm talking about bugs that will fuck you over, especially if you're playing on ironman. Broken line of sight and translucent buildings in a "tactical" game aren't just bugs, they're serious fuck ups..

Plus the mod support is fucking fantastic

Yes, "mods will fix it"- video games, 2016.

 

[ArchAngel]

I hope since Xcom 2 is more moddable someone implements real AI for aliens and gives them all patrol routes from cover to cover and removes alien free move on discovery as well as the stupid pod system.

Why from cover to cover? Until they'd get attacked they should walk normally.

If you are in concealment yes but not once you break it.

 

[tindrli]

Bros im having a blast playing Long war on normal. actually its a first game in many many months that does not get BORING and really i dont know why everybody is shitting on it ..im in august first year still struggling, 2 days from Gauss weapons, 3 states are offline, also having hard time with air superiority and those damn exalt rpgwatchers faggots as i just figure out that RUNNING is a key and killing only when nothing else to do. As well im in constant doubt about who to appoint as a Mech and i just finished Bio implants but as usual cant decide which implants are really useful coz i think, on the end, im gona lose this one as aliens are satarting to have aaaaaaaa lot of points and they are really kicking my ass now.. just lost 3 Bros on a last mission

 

[Jimmious]

Black are you asking about the game or you already have an opinion and you want a confirmation? If that's the case just do what you already believe, why should we waste our time telling you what we think?

 

[Black]

Good, stop wasting everyone's time and quit trying to find excuses for XCOM 2's fuck ups.

 

[tindrli]

just play long war first. and after 3 or 4 patches and 20+ mods in summer or autumn play xcom 2

 

[Nekot-The-Brave]

I hope since Xcom 2 is more moddable someone implements real AI for aliens and gives them all patrol routes from cover to cover and removes alien free move on discovery as well as the stupid pod system.

I think there have already been mods that modify the AI as well as the pod system and the 'free move'

 

[*-*/\--/\~]

I want Incubation 2.
Only they would fuck it up so nevermind.

This, dammit. I want that so much I even considered making it in Unity... but it's probably too much to do alone.

 

[ArchAngel]

I hope since Xcom 2 is more moddable someone implements real AI for aliens and gives them all patrol routes from cover to cover and removes alien free move on discovery as well as the stupid pod system.

I think there have already been mods that modify the AI as well as the pod system and the 'free move'

Care to link any?

 

[*-*/\--/\~]

By the way, more faithful to the original 'modern' x-com is Ufo: Extraterrestrials. Had fun with the gold edition.

Sadly, it went vapourware before they released a sequel. Though they still claim to be "working" on it... as in changing the release date once a year.

 

[Nekot-The-Brave]

I hope since Xcom 2 is more moddable someone implements real AI for aliens and gives them all patrol routes from cover to cover and removes alien free move on discovery as well as the stupid pod system.

I think there have already been mods that modify the AI as well as the pod system and the 'free move'

Care to link any?

Got some links:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=622778878&searchtext=activate
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=631501691&searchtext=activate
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=618390218&searchtext=move
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=623053621&searchtext=move

These might be what you're seeking.

 

[ArchAngel]

I tried to play that. Aliens kill you as fast as in UFO but you get a lot smaller squad. Also those 3d graphics were terrible.

 

[ArchAngel]

I hope since Xcom 2 is more moddable someone implements real AI for aliens and gives them all patrol routes from cover to cover and removes alien free move on discovery as well as the stupid pod system.

I think there have already been mods that modify the AI as well as the pod system and the 'free move'

Care to link any?

Got some links:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=622778878&searchtext=activate
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=631501691&searchtext=activate
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=618390218&searchtext=move
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=623053621&searchtext=move

These might be what you're seeking.

Tnx for links, I checked them all out and while some of them give parts of what I want none of them give nearly enough. And all are just tweaks for current "broken" system and I got no idea if they would even work together (two of them are interesting).
Although the one that activates all aliens on map could be interesting for challenge but it was published today and breaks who knows how many maps/missions.
Also it would not work if everyone just rushes your position, it is not enough to activate them. AI needs to be also changed to do a bit random and unpredictable moves like go back and circle the map like it did in original UFO

 

[Mortmal]

ragequit after during MY FUCKING TURN enemies fucking appeared and moved around!!! after i had already moved 2 units!!! this is beyond stupid. did this happen in previous xcom games?

Not in the old true xcom, that new mechanism was introduced in the 2014 xcom. Thats a poorly thought mechanism, you know what people do to prevent that unfair added dififculty ? they just save scum it . You place carefully your team into cover you scout and get unluckly trigger the aliens who immediately go into cover runing all the planning you did during the turn, i hate that.
its not a bad game , the 3D action scen is neat but that doesnt add anything on gameplay.

 

[Nekot-The-Brave]

Tnx for links, I checked them all out and while some of them give parts of what I want none of them give nearly enough. And all are just tweaks for current "broken" system and I got no idea if they would even work together (two of them are interesting).
Although the one that activates all aliens on map could be interesting for challenge but it was published today and breaks who knows how many maps/missions.
Also it would not work if everyone just rushes your position, it is not enough to activate them. AI needs to be also changed to do a bit random and unpredictable moves like go back and circle the map like it did in original UFO

I haven't seen any mods not work together, or any that have broken the game yet. The mod system seems to be pretty robust, but it does require you to start a new game for each type of mod that is either installed or removed.