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ItsChon
ItsChon
Too add another layer of complexity, a persons genetics and lifestyle play a huge role in the way their metabolism breaks down certain kinds of foods; and whether or not going on a caloric deficit will actually harm a persons metabolism and overall weight, versus improving it.
ItsChon
ItsChon
Oh, and drinking fruit juices (actual juices made from the fruit, like squeezed oranges/smoothies) is actually really fucking bad for you (in terms of weight loss). The process of changing the fruit into a liquid through blending or squeezing actually does more than you'd think; and should be avoided if trying to lose weight.
Delterius
Delterius
all of which was pointed out in the shoutbox, isn't that funny
ItsChon
ItsChon
Wasn't meant to be funny; and if it was pointed out, it was amidst a fuck ton of misinformation and autism.
Delterius
Delterius
misinformation in a nutrition discussion, impossible
asfasdf
asfasdf
Keep off shoutbox
Citizen
Nah, you need to eat EXACTLY TWO NUTRIENTS PER YEAR, or else you would die. That's science. I know this shit from sid meier's alpha centauri.
Citizen
„The process of changing the fruit into a liquid through blending or squeezing actually does more than you'd think" - Great Thinker.
Cool name
Cool name
wasn't talking about it but are you sure ppl didn't actually understand that whats on boxes is kcal but tends to be called calories colloquially in casual convo? bc that's how it's been most times I've seen it, and if that was the case then going on a rant 'well ackshually it's kilocalories' would be true autis. everybody knows (except crispy who pretends not to bc it fucks w ppl)
asfasdf
asfasdf
We use joules here naturally
Cool name
Cool name
as to the rest, for the majority of ppl it pretty much is as simple as keeping a mild caloric deficit provided you're eating reasonably clean, not absolute trash. 'dont eat garbage' shouldn't need to be said outright, if someone can't guess that theyre too retarded to be thin. as for harming metabolism, if you're keeping the deficit mild and not retardoextreme, that's not gonna happen to 99.99999% of ppl
Cool name
Cool name
basically, either this shoutbox nutrition convo was much more retarded than any one I've seen, or you're sperging over colloquialisms and obvious shit ppl left implicit bc any non-retard should be able to guess it
Bocian
Bocian
why do faggots constantly bring up autism
Kev Inkline
Kev Inkline
Because if you are autistic, you cannot eat wheat, it's bad for your colon; or semi-colon. Can't remember which.
ItsChon
ItsChon
Circuit, do you know the actual Chemistry behind why that's the case? As for Cool name there were people in the chat who were asking the difference between KCal's and Cals and were confused about the issue. Apparently the issue was clarified, but that's only a minor point.
ItsChon
ItsChon
Your point regarding "eating like garbage" isn't as simple as you make it seem; and though this might seem like a minor point, it truly does matter when it comes to any sport that relies on making a weight class, or if you want to get absolutely shredded. There are many people that react differently to Carbs vs Protein vs Fat, and often times they're reacting to food that people would normally call healthy.
ItsChon
ItsChon
I'm not necessarily sperging out over people saying shit that is demonstrably false. What I'm sperging out about is people talking in vague generalities and badly over simplifying a topic that is much more nuanced than people make it out to be. "Just have a caloric deficit retard, it's that fucking simple." Except it isn't that simple, especially when weights and other activities are involved.
asfasdf
asfasdf
oh stop it im getting tons of alerts for this nonsense
Citizen
And what kind of chemistry explains the changes in fruit juice in the process of squeezing? Do you really think that temporary high pressure or exposure to oxygen in air does """more than I'd think"""?

The only reason not to drink natural juices is their acidic nature, they can give you gastric ulcer or just fuck up your stomach hard if consumed mindlessly.
ItsChon
ItsChon
The process of changing a substance from a solid to a liquid makes it much easier for your body to access the carbohydrates, sugars, and calories present in these sugars. When you blend a fruit, it literally destroys the fiber in it (fiber = carb that can't be digested). This in turn increases the total amount of calories, carbs, and sugars you're ingesting.

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